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I think batmannow is a little excitable today. No one is insinuating he is god - we have to look at our options and what are the alternatives. It doesnt need a genius to deduce that it perhaps is time for the promotion of IK. We must be prepared to give him time and grow in the job in hand. I also think its harsh to bring his personal life like marriage - if we look at other politicians or in fact ANYBODY i am sure they will have some history you can dig up. Judge him for his ethics and his agenda for his nation.

Indeed, thats why I say that he isn't perfect but hes the best - by far the - best of the current lot ! Plus, as someone who believes in some kind of 'Islamic Polity', I look forward to seeing what he has in store for us !
 
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judging imran from the point of experince? or knowledge of govennce?
he got non? right!
all he have is great talking, & experince of social media!

He has been campaigning for the last 20 years. Judge him for what he has attempted to do and succeeded in. He is respected everywhere he goes internationally - even respected in India. Now look at what we have elected in the past and look at what choices we have in the future and you decide. Have a think - dont expect miracles and dont expect the Titanic to be turned round over night but expect him to perform to the best of his capabilities - that im sure of...
 
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Oh shukaar hai tou ne bataaa dei hai mein tou jammat karanei lagaaa thaaa ! For godsake yaar...he isn't perfect but the rest of 'em are even't worth considering.



What sort of work ? Ideally the army should stay in the barracks and the ISI should keep herself busy with the BLA and the TTP apart from their general 'intelligence' gathering responsibilities.
non of them, just watch him with julian assange, imran likes a world free of nuckes?
ISI, pakarmy trained OBL, & OBL was pakarmy,s asset.
well done, imran keep up, good work of getting power to dismentle pakistan from ts nuckes!
anyway , any time , any one can become benazir, in pakistan....lolz


watch it, before starts worshipping him!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WacS98ATtIM

He has been campaigning for the last 20 years. Judge him for what he has attempted to do and succeeded in. He is respected everywhere he goes internationally - even respected in India. Now look at what we have elected in the past and look at what choices we have in the future and you decide. Have a think - dont expect miracles and dont expect the Titanic to be turned round over night but expect him to perform to the best of his capabilities - that im sure of...
correction sir, its just 16 years &some months!
respected?
what happened last time, when he went against altaf hussain?
respected in india, lolz more thn today with zeenat amman!
oky its your opinion, i respect that.
 
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non of them, just watch him with julian assange, imran likes a world free of nuckes?
ISI, pakarmy trained OBL, & OBL was pakarmy,s asset.
well done, imran keep up, good work of getting power to dismentle pakistan from ts nuckes!
anyway , any time , any one can become benazir, in pakistan....lolz

I'd ideally want a Pakistan and the world at large, without any nukes but I'm conscious of the fact that we do need them ! So I disagree with Imran Khan *damn did I disagree with my God...thats blasphemy, I'm sure a PTI supporter will go Qadri style on my arse now* ! However how does that do away with everything else and in a country like Pakistan our nukes aren't going anywhere...they're there and they'd be there for the foreseeable future.

On to the second part - Its true that the ISI and PA were deeply involved in the Afghan Jihad and we did train many of the Mujahideen ! However if I'm not mistake he talked about the CIA trained OBL and how the ISI trained the Afghans - both in unison.
 
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Just stop man.
Stop wasting your time and our time.
This is just getting embarrassing for you and it's embarrassing for us who are reading it.

If you cannot offer solutions to the problems of the country, then the least you can do is step aside for the people who can.

Also stop wasting people emotions, and since we all know the truth about him.
 
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Sorry to say this but there are some really pysco members here. they just have no logical point but they keep on repeating their BS,
how funny it is that IK is labeled as an ISI's man and also as an Army hater and jewish agent. these guys negate their own BS in one single post. the moment a thread comes up about PTI or IK these 2 guys start posting same nonsense comments again and again without any respect to other members opinion.
 
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So who do you think will be coming in power next? Judging by PDF , PPP is really unpopular and many here support IK. According to articles washington post and new york times IK is the most popular leader in PAK.

PAKARMY!
even though PPP or PMLn or others arent, are popular these days, but still they have enough votes , to get elected with good numbers?
on , PDF musharaf was the most, popular leader, just check where he stands now?
its the ground, meaning election day! which decides everything?
 
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So who do you think will be coming in power next? Judging by PDF , PPP is really unpopular and many here support IK. According to articles washington post and new york times IK is the most popular leader in PAK.

IK is the popular political figure right now. batmannow just don't like IK and doesn't want to agree to the obvious.
 
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PAKARMY!
even though PPP or PMLn or others arent, are popular these days, but still they have enough votes , to get elected with good numbers?
on , PDF musharaf was the most, popular leader, just check where he stands now?
its the ground, meaning election day! which decides everything?

Who ever wins I hope democracy persist in PAK. Army is not a good idea. PAK army may be very
patriotic but its time PAK civilian institutions also develop. Well that's just my opinion. I just wish
all the best to PAK.
 
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Sorry to say this but there are some really pysco members here. they just have no logical point but they keep on repeating their BS,
how funny it is that IK is labeled as an ISI's man and also as an Army hater and jewish agent. these guys negate their own BS in one single post. the moment a thread comes up about PTI or IK these 2 guys start posting same nonsense comments again and again without any respect to other members opinion.
really cant undetstand, why 5 different threads about IMRAN KHAN or pti kept appearing on PDF at the same time , these days?
the moment a thread comes up about PTI or IK these 2 guys start posting same nonsense comments again and again without any respect to other members opinion.

ohh god, thats the attitude!
it seems its a sin, to talk against pti?
so sad.

Who ever wins I hope democracy persist in PAK. Army is not a good idea. PAK army may be very
patriotic but its time PAK civilian institutions also develop. Well that's just my opinion. I just wish
all the best to PAK.
pakarmy is the most respected, diciplined , democratic, & most civilized & un-croupt institution of pakistan, with die hard patriotic, pakistanis running it, with pride & grace!
 
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IK is the popular political figure right now. batmannow just don't like IK and doesn't want to agree to the obvious.
thanks for understanding sir!
you see, you talk with logic, & with love!
thats the key here.
we have to be reasonable , towards peoples who, even doesnt agree with you!
its not the sin?
just check, other thread with PTI & imran going to fasilabad, against loadshading, & look my post!
i support, issue base politics!
i can become agree with you, & i can become disagree with you, its my right!
 
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pakarmy is the most respected, diciplined , democratic, & most civilized & un-croupt institution of pakistan, with die hard patriotic, pakistanis running it, with pride & grace!

... but according to some Imran is being backed by Army and ISI, so you should support Imran Khan, and if not, start hating Army since they support Imran Khan.

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with no experience of governence , & without knowledge of pakistani politics,

today I explain you this topic. I was asked questions so I said about this issue on my last post #22 also, by referring Rajiv Gandhi, how he was very very successful on dealing international politics and at the same time he did enough to have high growth in India. even during second half of 80s, during the rule of Rajiv Gandhi, India had close to 8% on average growth rate :agree:. he was the man who first brought computers in India and now India is a IT superpower, with excellent successful on the politics side also with help of Indian bureaucrats/diplomats, while he never knew politics before he became PM, was just a professional pilot :meeting:

now I tell you about the current Indian PM, Mr Manmohan Singh, the second longest serving indian PM. he was hardly an economists and wasn't capable to win even a single seat from his state Punjab and he first entered in politics through a Rajya Sabha seat of North East :lol:. when he was made Finance Minister during the time of Mr Rao in early 90s, it was argued, "An economist will only talk about the best return out of investment, the most feasible projects, while a politician first has to understand the social issues related to it." few said, "Mr Singh may go for those projects which will have the highest return while a politician would consider that project which may have less return but may employ more people, have better social impact." and have a look on India right now, due to the impact of Open Market, all the right and wrong from West have come to India. now you may straight see **** of the people like Sunny Leone and then watch her movie :lol:. and her success will certainly inspire the Indian girls to do so also :agree:. and at the same time soon you will find retails will have been taken over by Walmart type US's firms which will benefit the the economy but it will result in losing jobs of many local shops..........

I mean, when you take a decision then you lose somewhere and gain somewhere else. this is how the things works. and whether Mr R Gandhi or Mr M Singh, none of these two were competent on the political side but their time improved the economy to an extent, and India didnt lose anything on the politics side also. in fact, India is blamed for having late Economic Liberalization than China/ ASEAN region who had adopted this path in 70s. a King/ PM/ President/ CM etc doesn't need to be very good on politics. he/she just needs to be true/loyal to his nation and rest, you have all the talents who will help him on the side of economics, politics etc........ :meeting:

i will back with the other issues you raised tomorrow...............
 
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