Recent Sino-Indian border conflict

[Pangu]

Doklam issue has reached a turning point, time to lay it to rest... Now Bhutan & China must settle our border dispute in earnest & build diplomatic relations. China-India relations requires enhanced apparatus to manage disputes to minimize confrontations. At least China & India didn't went to war for the enjoyment of other countries.

 

[52051]

Doklam issue has reached a turning point, time to lay it to rest... Now Bhutan & China must settle our border dispute in earnest & build diplomatic relations. China-India relations requires enhanced apparatus to manage disputes to minimize confrontations. At least China & India didn't went to war for the enjoyment of other countries.

This incident is just like the one in 1987, when China move several armies to Tibet the indians run like the rats they are.

Indians are just all-talk but when it comes to action they always chickened-out.

If there is something to learn, it is that China should deploy a few divisions instead of a few regiments in Tibet and China should have change their stragety aginst endia (since most CCP/Chinese despise india and dont take it as an opponment or on their radar), and China should employ a strategy at dismemeber india whether through direct war or through taking advantage of their intenral chaos or both.

 

[Han Patriot]

This incident is just like the one in 1987, when China move several armies to Tibet the indians run like the rats they are.

Indians are just all-talk but when it comes to action they always chickened-out.

If there is something to learn, it is that China should deploy a few divisions instead of a few regiments in Tibet and China should have change their stragety aginst endia (since most CCP/Chinese despise india and dont take it as an opponment or on their radar), and China should employ a strategy at dismemeber india whether through direct war or through taking advantage of their intenral chaos or both.

In 1987, their PM went to Beijing personally and hence that crisis was resolved. You need to kick some senses into these delusional people. Once you show them the guns, they will run.

 

[samsara]

I am the one who is happy to see this skirmish ends without any fire shot!

The world is big enough to hold side by side the two civilizations to run down their own courses and destiny... even though IF both cannot get along well it does not mean there should be any bloody clash between the two largest neighbors (in term of population). Be smart enough and keep the senses and just don't dance to the external singing!! A nation may be able to change many things but it will never be able to change its whereabouts, its geographic location.

Better fight here in the ethereal net realm that having some real bloodshed, causing the falling lives with all its ramifications!

Btw about fear and courage, only the American Rambo is known as having the courage, thus for simplicity if one loves to define such qualitative meaning in the simpleton ways please refer to the Hollywood movies.

 

[Han Patriot]

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/2511_665403/t1487932.shtml

Q: You said that India has unilaterally pulled back from the Dong Lang area, as was asked by the Chinese side. Then you said that the Chinese side will make adjustments accordingly. Could you clarify what do you mean by that?

A: I have made myself very clear. In light of the changes on the ground, China will accordingly make necessary adjustments and deployment. I also stressed that the Chinese border troops will continue fulfilling the sovereignty rights to safeguard territorial sovereignty in compliance with the stipulations of the border-related historical treaty.

No mention of road building at all.

 

[Kapwercs]

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/2511_665403/t1487932.shtml

Q: You said that India has unilaterally pulled back from the Dong Lang area, as was asked by the Chinese side. Then you said that the Chinese side will make adjustments accordingly. Could you clarify what do you mean by that?

A: I have made myself very clear. In light of the changes on the ground, China will accordingly make necessary adjustments and deployment. I also stressed that the Chinese border troops will continue fulfilling the sovereignty rights to safeguard territorial sovereignty in compliance with the stipulations of the border-related historical treaty.

No mention of road building at all.

http://m.scmp.com/news/china/diplom...alted-road-building-end-india-border-standoff
China has put on hold building work in a disputed area of its border with India as part of an agreement to end the two-month military stand-off with its neighbour, but will maintain patrols in the area, according to Chinese diplomatic analysts.
The two nations have agreed to withdraw troops from an area on the Doklam plateau at the centre of the dispute, India’s foreign ministry said on Monday.

The stand-off was sparked in June when China began building a road in a disputed area high in the Himalayas close to Bhutan.
China’s foreign ministry said in a statement Indian troops were withdrawing and its troops would continue to patrol and garrison the area.

“In light of the changed situation, the Chinese side will make necessary adjustments and deployment according to the situation at the scene,” the ministry said.

India withdraws troops from disputed border zone, China says

China and India did not state if road construction in the area had been halted, but Chinese analysts said they believed China would hold off on the building work for now, in exchange for the withdrawal of troops."

We understand your embarresment. But facts dont lie.

@Nilgiri @Stephen Cohen @Roybot

 

[Han Patriot]

http://m.scmp.com/news/china/diplom...alted-road-building-end-india-border-standoff
China has put on hold building work in a disputed area of its border with India as part of an agreement to end the two-month military stand-off with its neighbour, but will maintain patrols in the area, according to Chinese diplomatic analysts.
The two nations have agreed to withdraw troops from an area on the Doklam plateau at the centre of the dispute, India’s foreign ministry said on Monday.

The stand-off was sparked in June when China began building a road in a disputed area high in the Himalayas close to Bhutan.
China’s foreign ministry said in a statement Indian troops were withdrawing and its troops would continue to patrol and garrison the area.

“In light of the changed situation, the Chinese side will make necessary adjustments and deployment according to the situation at the scene,” the ministry said.

India withdraws troops from disputed border zone, China says

China and India did not state if road construction in the area had been halted, but Chinese analysts said they believed China would hold off on the building work for now, in exchange for the withdrawal of troops."

We understand your embarresment. But facts dont lie.

@Nilgiri @Stephen Cohen @Roybot

So where is the proof? You are just quoting individual ANAL lyst. . Until today still no announcements from MEA. Awfully quiet, initially only an embarrassing 2 paragraph response. Vague response btw.

 

[Kapwercs]

So where is the proof? You are just quoting individual ANAL lyst. . Until today still no announcements from MEA. Awfully quiet, initially only an embarrassing 2 paragraph response. Vague response btw.

A person who wants to deliberately close his eyes cannot see the light....old chinese saying.

 

[Han Patriot]

A person who wants to deliberately close his eyes cannot see the light....old chinese saying.

I saw the light, it seems you Indians are too egoistic to admit defeat. A half baked supa powa trying to act tough? Begging the US for the past few months got you no where, and when we start mobilizing, you ran. Remember the flyin kick in Ladakh? No need for bullets, you just need to shout at the Indians and they will scamper like cow wards.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Doklam standoff LIVE UPDATES: India has pulled back all border personnel, equipment from site, says Chinese FM
According to a statement issued by the MEA, “expeditious disengagement of border personnel at the face-off site has been agreed to and is on-going”. The statement doesn’t clarify whether the disengagement is mutual or the details of the mechanics of disengagement.
Disengagement has started at the Dolam plateau on the Sikkim border where Indian and Chinese forces have been arrayed against each other since June 18.

According to a statement issued by the MEA, “expeditious disengagement of border personnel at the face-off site has been agreed to and is on-going”. The statement doesn’t clarify whether the disengagement is mutual or the details of the mechanics of disengagement.

Army sources in New Delhi refused to divulge any details, stating that “disengagement had been agreed to and was in progress.”

Meanwhile, Reuters quoting Chinese foreign ministry has reported that “Indian forces have already withdrawn to the Indian side of the border.” It has also said that its forces “will remain in the region” and continue to exercise their “sovereignty over the region”.

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...na-says-indian-forces-have-withdrawn-4817275/

What happened to the road? Chinese always claims this as their area and says IA has trespassed it. IA never denied not entering this disputed area between China and Bhutan. The main point of contention was the road itself. What happened to its construction? all other points who withdrew its forces first are secondary in nature as these forces are there to achieve some objective. Once the objective is achieved the forces withdraws normally. So whose objective is achieved? Chinese..Are they building the road? or Indians....They able to halt the road construction?

 

[Han Patriot]

This news is actually very interesting!


8/20 China Tibet AR

The Department of Transportation of Tibet Autonomous Region has announced today that it plans to start 30 new road construction projects in border areas this year. The construction of two of these new roads is already underway, and the rest are in various stages of surveying and designing. In addition, the construction of 5 extension projects to existing roads has also restarted.

 

[lmjiao]

Every Chinese have learned a lesson: India likes invading other countries.

In previous time normal people like me thought that India is a potential friend. I personaly have several Indian friends.

Now, like in 1960s, lessons are relearnt, and we should better reconsider India. It is a uncivilized object not suitable for 21st centery. China together with allies should be more aware of this and stop dreaming about peace with those.

 

[Figaro]

Why do we still need this thread? India has clearly lost because it was the first belligerent to unilaterally withdraw from the battlefield without any prior preconditions. In war conventions, this is clearly referred to as the losing party. Sorry to the Indians but the Battle of Doklam (2017) goes to China, just like 1962. Nuff said.

 

[Suriya]

I know it's humiliating after seeing the PLA kicked your men flying until they came crashing and after so much bragging of staying inside our territory to safeguard that area on behalf of Bhutan geeeee it couldn't get any worse than withdrawing back to your own slum border. And today our foreign ministry is saying the road is gonna be build it showed India has succumbed to China's pressure. Supa Powa slumdogs unilaterally crawled back where they came from. Talk about lack of balls

Chinese Media : China ‘halts road building’ to end India border stand-off

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...d-india-border-stand-off.514838/#post-9815814

 

[terranMarine]

Chinese Media : China ‘halts road building’ to end India border stand-off

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...d-india-border-stand-off.514838/#post-9815814

guess we wait and see to get the final answer, and it's from SCMP not from Mainland official media.