What's new

Raymond Davis Case: Developing Story

Status
Not open for further replies.
omg look at these talibans...................

They are terrorists of the worst kind, demanding sentence for the holy cow from the holy land.

BTW I noted that only PTI and JUI are protesting for the murder of those two Pakistanis, where are the other political parties?
 
Going by the previous record of our successive governments, I can safely conclude that come what may, Raymond Davis will be set free. US has so much to lose if Pakistan also starts to get tough but no so called leader of ours, belonging to any party, can withstand US pressure. They are all spineless and have ill gotten wealth stashed abroad and they will never jeoperdize it. In any case they were brought in power to safeguard US interests not ours. What I think is that the prosecution will submitt such a weak case that Judiciary will be bound to set him free.
 
- - In the current scenario U.S needs Pakistan to help its forces in Afghanistan. . .
Without Pak's cooperation it is nearly impossible. .

Because of this U.S cannot cut contacts for long. . .
 
This is repetitious of postings on all these points over the past several days. There you will find my answers, as well as those of others, to these points.

But, to be a "nice guy" I will say that your focus is wrong. The single overriding issue is Diplomatic Immunity. The second issue is Mr. Davis was "stuck up" by two known crooks who deserved and deserve no idealizing.

GPS is used worldwide to get around any city in any country.

Having a cell phone is routine and normal, except in the case of the two crooks whose 3rd and 4th cell phones were those of the two Paksitani gentlemenwhich were stolen from them that same afternoon, just before the stick up attempt on Mr. Davis. Read your own Pakistani media for these and many other points to be answered by them.

A traffic accidential death has nothing to do with Mr. Davis having diplomatic immunity.

One of the gravest travesties of all this made up clap trap was the subject line for days on end on PDF wrongly describing him as the one who killed three Pakistanis. He shot two in self defense, both armed and came at him first. Period. End of courteousy answer.

It is time for dinner here. Good day.

Time and Time again we have told you that it has still not been estabilished that whether they were crooks or innocent Pakistanis. Its the courts that have to decide, but you seem to have made up your mind that they were crooks. Anyways we could care less for what you think old man. I believe that mother f**ker American was a spy. Now does that change any thing? No! So stop posting bullshit sir.
 
Time and Time again we have told you that it has still not been estabilished that whether they were crooks or innocent Pakistanis. Its the courts that have to decide, but you seem to have made up your mind that they were crooks. Anyways we could care less for what you think old man. I believe that mother f**ker American was a spy. Now does that change any thing? No! So stop posting bullshit sir.

In the mean time we can call Raymond Davis-- A terrorist who murdered two innocents.
 
Islamabad: The US has put bilateral engagements with Pakistan on hold till US official Raymond Davis, who has been arrested for fatally shooting two Pakistanis in Lahore, is released, Dawn reported Tuesday.

US suspends high-level dialogue with Pak: Report

Diplomatic sources told the Dawn that the dispute could impact three major events planned this year - President Asif Ali Zardari's visit to Washington, the next round of US-Pakistan strategic dialogue and trilateral talks involving Pakistan, Afghanistan and the US.

Davis was arrested after he shot dead two people riding on a motorbike at a busy intersection in Lahore Jan 27. He called up the US consulate after the shooting and a team rushed to help him. The team's vehicle collided with a motorcyclist, killing him.

The US is stressing that Davis should be released as he holds a diplomatic passport.

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi last week postponed a visit to Germany to take part in an international security conference after Washington told Islamabad that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton might not be able to meet him because of the dispute, the media report said.

A diplomatic source said that delay in Zardari's visit that has been planned to take place next month "would send wrong signals around the world and would also embarrass him at home".

Similarly "delaying the strategic dialogue would have serious implications", he added.

"The US decision to postpone all bilateral contacts can put Pakistan at a great disadvantage during the negotiations," the source was quoted as saying.

The diplomatic row could impact $1.5 billion of annual assistance for Pakistan.

"...Pakistan has agreed in principle to grant diplomatic immunity to Mr Davis and send him back to the US," a senior diplomatic source said in Washington.

"But the government (of Pakistan) is scared of political repercussions, particularly after the suicide (by one of the victim's widow Sunday)," the source added.

Islamabad has put Raymond Davis and three other Americans on a list that prohibits them from leaving the country.


US suspends high-level dialogue with Pak: Report -  International News
 
- - In the current scenario U.S needs Pakistan to help its forces in Afghanistan. . .
Without Pak's cooperation it is nearly impossible. .

Because of this U.S cannot cut contacts for long. . .

same way pakistan cannot survive without american aid and IMF money, think about it,
 
r

i see females with out Burqa Hijab-- Bloody Liberal terrorists--
 
Tinkered, Tailored, Soldered, Spied: US suspends high-level contact with Pakistan


WASHINGTON: The United States has suspended high-level contacts with Pakistan as ties between the two countries continue to deteriorate over the Raymond Davis affair.

The situation has worsened to such an extent that the Obama administration is reported to be putting a hold on Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari's proposed visit to Washington next month. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton also declined to meet Pakistan's foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi on the sidelines of a security conference in Munich. Agitated US lawmakers have indicated that defense and economic ties, including aid to Pakistan, may need to be revisited.

So what is the Raymond Davis affair? While Washington and much of the world continues to be transfixed by the drama over democracy in Egypt, an ugly sideshow involving spooks and spying in Pakistan is consuming the Obama administration, redrawing the security contours with regards to what was once regarded as a stalwart ally.

Davis, an alleged private security contractor, was on the rolls of the American diplomatic mission in Pakistan when he shot dead two Pakistanis last month in what he said was in self-defense after they attempted to rob him. He has been incarcerated pending legal proceedings despite US demands that he be freed because he enjoys diplomatic immunity.

Washington has now convinced Pakistan that Davis has a diplomatic passport, and although it is stamped with a work visa, he is entitled to diplomatic immunity under international conventions. But the situation in Pakistan appears to have slipped out of government's control, with anti-U.S interests and pro-American sources each selectively leaking information to inflame public opinion, which is already anti-American.

For instance, it turns out that even as Islamabad is publicly resisting American pressure, a section of the Pakistani establishment has revealed that the two men who were shot were in fact agents of the ISI, its spy agency. Adding to the confusion, the wife of one of the alleged robbers/spies died under mysterious circumstances in a Pakistani hospital after consuming poison, but not before she met journalists and issued a revenge call, demanding "blood for blood."

Meanwhile, unnamed Pakistani officials also told the Express Tribune newspaper in Lahore that the Pakistani government's "tough stance" on the whole issue was also a "reaction to the attempts by certain elements in Washington to implicate...the ISI in the November 2008 Mumbai attacks," including the decision by an American court to summon top ISI officials in connections with the attacks.

The incredible and often acrimonious drama, being played out on the sidelines of the Egypt spectacle, has greatly soured ties between US and Pakistan, with the growing feeling in Washington that its once-famed ally is now turning rogue. There is now a demand in some quarters in Washington to turn off the aid spigot vital for Pakistan's survival, even as there is pressure on the civilian government in Islamabad to hold to account the United States, whose lifeline to its 140,000 troops in Afghanistan runs through Pakistan.

Some analysts are starting to compare the situation to the one that existed between US and Iran during the hostage crisis.

Matters have reached such a head that the US ambassador to Pakistan Cameron Munter called on President Asif Ali Zardari in Islamabad on Monday to follow up on Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's phone call to him last week to resolve the matter, which has now become more complicated by the latest disclosure and the suicide.

But instead of moving towards a resolution, Pakistan on Monday put three more Americans, accused of driving a vehicle that came to rescue Davis but instead killed a pedestrian in a hit-and-run incident, on an exit control list.

The atmosphere has been particularly exacerbated by the alleged suicide of Shumaila Kanwal, widow of the one of the men shot dead by Davis. Kanwal, 26, reportedly told medics and journalists that she was ending her life in protest at alleged leniency shown towards Davis. "I want blood for blood," she was quoted as saying after she arrived at the hospital. "The way my husband was shot, his killer should be shot in the same fashion. I need justice."

Pictures in the Pakistani media showed Kanwal being tube fed and drinking water, but she was mysteriously pronounced dead a few hours later. Soon after, some Pakistani politicians have demanded that Davis and other Americans be tried for her death too. The US mission has declined to hand over the three other Americans accused in the hit-and-run case.

All this now makes it even more difficult for Pakistan's civilian government to release Davis even if it now transpires, as was reported by the Express Tribune, that the two motorcycle borne men who were killed were ISI agents. An unnamed security official told the newspaper, which is brought out in collaboration with the International Herald Tribune, that the duo belonged to the security establishment and "found the activities of the American official detrimental to our national security."

Read more: Tinkered, Tailored, Soldered, Spied: US suspends high-level contact with Pakistan - The Times of India Tinkered, Tailored, Soldered, Spied: US suspends high-level contact with Pakistan - The Times of India
 
Islamabad is in a dilemma, US will get angry if they prosecute this guy. If they grant diplomatic immunity, public will go mad..

How will they handle the situation, lets wait and see..
 
i think America need much more than us if he want a safe route for his army
America must to think about this
 
Washington has to realize that all this arm twisting will not yield anything.It has to talk to Islamabad even if doesn't wish to talk.snapping all contacts will only harm Washington in longterm. And this is the precise argument Washington give to Delhi.So why not it itself follow itself follow on to advices it gives to other countries.

Location flag:- USA
Country flag:- India
Heart is with :- Pakistan
 
lo a gai statement :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

سارے کام چھوڑو، امداد مانگو :سفار تخا نوں کو ہدایت

سلام آباد(مانیٹرنگ ڈیسک)وزیر خارجہ شاہ محمود قریشی نے پاکستانی سفارتخانوں اور دفتر خارجہ کے حکام کو ہدایت کی ہے کہ سیلاب کی تباہ کاریوں سے نمٹنے کیلئے زیادہ سے زیادہ امداد کی فراہمی یقینی بنا ئی جائے۔انہوں نے یہ ہدایت دفتر خارجہ میں ہونے والے اعلیٰ سطح اجلاس کی صدارت کرتے ہوئے جاری کیں۔ دفتر خارجہ میں قائم فلڈ ریلیف سیل نے اجلاس کو بتایا کہ بین الاقوامی اداروں اور دوست ممالک کی جانب سے بھجوائے گئے امدادی سامان کے علاوہ اب تک دوسو پچاس ملین ڈالر امداد کے دعوے بھی کئے گئے ہیں۔ وزیر خارجہ نے ہدایت کی کہ بیرون ملک پاکستانیوں کو بھی اپنے متاثرہ پاکستانی بھائیوں کی مدد کیلئے متحرک کیا جائے۔

Ya Allah. Jo Day Us Ka Bhi Bhala. Jo Na Day Us Ka Bhi... Bhala
 
i think America need much more than us if he want a safe route for his army
America must to think about this

This region is strategically important, America isn't going any where this time-- nor it can afford to lose us.

Agents like Raymond Davis are disposable agents -- Foreign policies of a country does not change because of One Man--
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom