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Rana Sanuallah says 'enough evidence' found to start proceedings to ban PTI

It seems PTI is one step behind the haramis
Agreed, They are being reactionary. They have to become proactive now; better late than never.

They might as well go for an international campaign of building support for their movement, but for that they need to emphasize the universal parts of their message and say how hard it is when even the police have become politicized and are undermining the rule of law. There are many leftist governments and leftist parties around the world (such as in Latin America, and parts of Europe) that would support a Pakistani movement that espouses universal values. This is why the PTI needs to strengthen its left wing.

They also need a message to counter the expected arguments of submitting to the law, when there is clear evidence of ill treatment of senior PTI political prisoners in the past few months when they were taken into custody.


IK needs a way to uphold the rule of law and submit himself to the authorities so when the PTI wins they can uphold the law and not appear hypocritical in anyway. In a world of social media, and a global aversion to martial law, being imprisoned would strengthen IK not weaken him, should it come to that.

The speeches of Nelson Mandela are a good example of a way to find a way to craft a globally appealable message. “Let there be Justice for all, Let there be Peace for all.” -Nelson Mandela

A good first step would be to say all cases against all politicians would be decided by the courts and he would move on from calling out the other parties. The nation needs to focus on the large diversion of national resources currently used to subsidize the greed of the few and not meet the needs of the many. There needs to be a message of hope to even those amongst the elite, that they will benefit as well, and that in exchange for a loss of privilege they will prosper like never before and be free of guilt, like the white South Africans.

Thankfully it’s not as bad as it was in South Africa vis a vis the rule of law, but a movement to reform and strengthen the state on the right foundation is what Mandela did as well as what IK hopes to do, so Mandela is probably a good inspiration, especially if imprisoned. Imprisonment would also strengthen PTI mechanism of succession and rule post-IK.

 
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Agreed, They are being reactionary. They have to become proactive now; better late than never.

They might as well go for an international campaign of building support for their movement, but for that they need to emphasize the universal parts of their message and say how hard it is when even the police have become politicized and are undermining the rule of law. There are many leftist governments and leftist parties around the world (such as in Latin America, and parts of Europe) that would support a Pakistani movement that espouses universal values. This is why the PTI needs to strengthen its left wing.

They also need a message to counter the expected arguments of submitting to the law, when there is clear evidence of ill treatment of senior PTI political prisoners in the past few months when they were taken into custody.


IK needs a way to uphold the rule of law and submit himself to the authorities so when the PTI wins they can uphold the law and not appear hypocritical in anyway. In a world of social media, and a global aversion to martial law, being imprisoned would strengthen IK not weaken him, should it come to that.

The speeches of Nelson Mandela are a good example of a way to find a way to craft a globally appealable message. “Let there be Justice for all, Let there be Peace for all.” -Nelson Mandela

A good first step would be to say all cases against all politicians would be decided by the courts and he would move on from calling out the other parties. The nation needs to focus on the large diversion of national resources currently used to subsidize the greed of the few and not meet the needs of the many. There needs to be a message of hope to even those amongst the elite, that they will benefit as well, and that in exchange for a loss of privilege they will prosper like never before and be free of guilt, like the white South Africans.

Kidnaps a few generals and their kids and kill a few haramis like nani and sanullah
 
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Rana Sanuallah says 'enough evidence' found to start proceedings to ban PTI

  • Interior Minister says govt will consult legal and government team in this regard
BR
March 19, 2023

Interior Minister Rana Sanuallah has said the raid on Imran Khan's Zaman Park residence revealed "enough evidence" to warrant declaring the Pakistan=Tehreek-e-Insaf a proscribed organization, Aaj News reported.

Addressing a press conference, the minister said the government would consult with the legal team to determine if a process could be initiated in this regard.

“It is a judicial process to declare any party proscribed. On this, I think our legal team and government will have to see what the possibilities for victory in this process are,” he said at a press conference on Saturday night.

Rana Sanaullah said terrorists were hiding in Zaman Park when the raid was conducted. "Weapons, petrol bombs, etc have been recovered from the residence of Imran Khan which is enough evidence to file a reference against the PTI for being a militant organization,” he said.

Following the interior minister's comments, senior Vice President of PMLN Maryam Nawaz shared a video on her Twitter handle, claiming that people who attacked police at Zaman park were not political workers.

"They are trained terrorists and miscreants recruited from banned outfits that IK has always been supportive of," Maryam claimed.

"The evidence speaks for itself. The state must act before it’s too late," she added.

Earlier this week, Maryam urged the federal government to treat the PTI as a "terrorist organization."

"I have no doubt that he (Imran) was launched to spread unrest in the country,” she said while addressing a news conference along with party leaders at the PML-N Secretariat

“The state will have to think of removing the tag of a political party from the PTI.”

Punjab Police said on Saturday that it found assault rifles, bullets, petrol bombs, and other ammunition from Zaman Park during a raid operation.

According to reports, police arrested 60 PTI workers after breaking down the main gate of Zaman Park residence. Inside, the police baton charged the remaining PTI workers.

Police officials stated that the workers had injured and thrown petrol bombs at law enforcement officials in a prior operation and “we are conducting the operation to arrest the miscreants”.


The only terrorism that is happening is what Sanuallah is arranging and planting on pti..
 
Whenever there is threat of arrest ik calls his loyal workers to zaman park to protect him.He took hundreds of workers and supporters to the court,it seemed like there was a jalsa outside the court.Never seen this happen outside courts before.
 
Kidnaps a few generals and their kids and kill a few haramis like nani and sanullah
That undermines the rule of law and undermines the goal of reforming the state. It’s a slippery slope. Mandela and Poland’s Lech Walesa challenged the state through non-violent people power, and won.


 
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Whenever there is threat of arrest ik calls his loyal workers to zaman park to protect him.He took hundreds of workers and supporters to the court,it seemed like there was a jalsa outside the court.Never seen this happen outside courts before.

Deal with it. You haven't seen a thing yet.

That undermines the rule of law and undermines the goal of reforming the state.

Where was your outrage when PTI workers and politicians got tortured in broad daylight? When Imran Khan got almost killed.

Now the rule of law will be and should be underminded. No doubt about it.
 
That undermines the rule of law and undermines the goal of reforming the state. It’s a slippery slope. Mandela and Poland’s Lech Walesa challenged the state through non-violent people power, and won.

R u on this planet?

What rule of law in Pakistan ?
Pakistanis understand 2 things...dunda or take their money away
 
Deal with it. You haven't seen a thing yet.



Where was your outrage when PTI workers and politicians got tortured in broad daylight? When Imran Khan got almost killed.

Now the rule of law will be and should be underminded. No doubt about it.
Go back to my posts from that time. I was indeed outraged, and I won’t say I haven’t had similar feelings, but I realized it would be ultimately counterproductive.

Oppression must be primarily challenged where its center of gravity lies, the desire for the elites to be accepted by the global community; outside of Pakistan. Exposing the Fascism and deprecation of the poor by the PDM to each and every corner of the globe and repeating the message will do more good.

or take their money away
This is what an international campaign should do. The efforts up to this point seem to be working, because even the Saudis are refusing to loan to Pakistan under the PDM government.

 
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Rana Sanuallah says 'enough evidence' found to start proceedings to ban PTI

  • Interior Minister says govt will consult legal and government team in this regard
BR
March 19, 2023

Interior Minister Rana Sanuallah has said the raid on Imran Khan's Zaman Park residence revealed "enough evidence" to warrant declaring the Pakistan=Tehreek-e-Insaf a proscribed organization, Aaj News reported.

Addressing a press conference, the minister said the government would consult with the legal team to determine if a process could be initiated in this regard.

“It is a judicial process to declare any party proscribed. On this, I think our legal team and government will have to see what the possibilities for victory in this process are,” he said at a press conference on Saturday night.

Rana Sanaullah said terrorists were hiding in Zaman Park when the raid was conducted. "Weapons, petrol bombs, etc have been recovered from the residence of Imran Khan which is enough evidence to file a reference against the PTI for being a militant organization,” he said.

Following the interior minister's comments, senior Vice President of PMLN Maryam Nawaz shared a video on her Twitter handle, claiming that people who attacked police at Zaman park were not political workers.

"They are trained terrorists and miscreants recruited from banned outfits that IK has always been supportive of," Maryam claimed.

"The evidence speaks for itself. The state must act before it’s too late," she added.

Earlier this week, Maryam urged the federal government to treat the PTI as a "terrorist organization."

"I have no doubt that he (Imran) was launched to spread unrest in the country,” she said while addressing a news conference along with party leaders at the PML-N Secretariat

“The state will have to think of removing the tag of a political party from the PTI.”

Punjab Police said on Saturday that it found assault rifles, bullets, petrol bombs, and other ammunition from Zaman Park during a raid operation.

According to reports, police arrested 60 PTI workers after breaking down the main gate of Zaman Park residence. Inside, the police baton charged the remaining PTI workers.

Police officials stated that the workers had injured and thrown petrol bombs at law enforcement officials in a prior operation and “we are conducting the operation to arrest the miscreants”.


Morsi playbook being applied to Pakistan. Thank you Uncle Sam.

Agreed, They are being reactionary. They have to become proactive now; better late than never.

They might as well go for an international campaign of building support for their movement, but for that they need to emphasize the universal parts of their message and say how hard it is when even the police have become politicized and are undermining the rule of law. There are many leftist governments and leftist parties around the world (such as in Latin America, and parts of Europe) that would support a Pakistani movement that espouses universal values. This is why the PTI needs to strengthen its left wing.

They also need a message to counter the expected arguments of submitting to the law, when there is clear evidence of ill treatment of senior PTI political prisoners in the past few months when they were taken into custody.


IK needs a way to uphold the rule of law and submit himself to the authorities so when the PTI wins they can uphold the law and not appear hypocritical in anyway. In a world of social media, and a global aversion to martial law, being imprisoned would strengthen IK not weaken him, should it come to that.

The speeches of Nelson Mandela are a good example of a way to find a way to craft a globally appealable message. “Let there be Justice for all, Let there be Peace for all.” -Nelson Mandela

A good first step would be to say all cases against all politicians would be decided by the courts and he would move on from calling out the other parties. The nation needs to focus on the large diversion of national resources currently used to subsidize the greed of the few and not meet the needs of the many. There needs to be a message of hope to even those amongst the elite, that they will benefit as well, and that in exchange for a loss of privilege they will prosper like never before and be free of guilt, like the white South Africans.

Thankfully it’s not as bad as it was in South Africa vis a vis the rule of law, but a movement to reform and strengthen the state on the right foundation is what Mandela did as well as what IK hopes to do, so Mandela is probably a good inspiration, especially if imprisoned. Imprisonment would also strengthen PTI mechanism of succession and rule post-IK.

There is a difference between the "Law" and application of Law by corruption. Law by corruption is not a valid law and needs to be ignored.
 
Morsi playbook being applied to Pakistan. Thank you Uncle Sam.


There is a difference between the "Law" and application of Law by corruption. Law by corruption is not a valid law and needs to be ignored.
That is the tricky balance PTI has to find. A way to say the law has been corrupted and their resistance in the face of the corruption of the law is justified, and the goal is merely a government by the consent of the governed. BTW, If a democratically elected government is not elected by the end of October, what ever “government” is there after that time can not be said to be democratic.

In PTI’s case, the separation is independence from the current corrupted law and replacing it with by upholding the law as written and passed under the constitution of the Pakistan.

PTI when tailoring their message for campaigning in the US can point to the US Declaration of Independence. And the campaigning in the US has begun.

Now Biden has to be on record if stand with the Autocracy in Pakistan or with the desire for true democracy



When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.-That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,-That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles sand organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism,
it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.-Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury.

To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
 
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Yeh Haram zada model town main be bach nikala phir drug case main be yah bach gaya, agli bari agar PTI ki government atti ha to is fitna ko dafan na kia PTI na to Lanat ho gi PTI walon ki shakal per.
 

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