Ramazan to commence on Saturday: Mufti Popalzai

[Well.wisher]

Saw the moon at maghrib time today, it was definitely the second day moon, considering its thickness and position in the sky.
Maybe we should just get rid of this rohat e halal committee and charge the meteorological department to do the job. Hopefully then we would not be missing one fast and fasting on eid day every year!!

I don't know I actually felt ramzan today .
I felt I'm inclined to do good things and stay away from bad , Satan is in prison . Lol

 

[El Sidd]

Lala why are you serious 13 months a year

Marraan i am trying to ask myself that as well. Must be some medical thing.

I don't know I actually felt ramzan today .
I felt I'm inclined to do good things and stay away from bad , Satan is in prison . Lol

@Hell hound dude everything ok?

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

what wrong signal?

According to Islamic rules there can be more than one eid in a country or for that matter one region.

either we have to follow the Islam or appease the world. You can choose the later we have no issue but Eid, Ramazan is a religious affair and dealt with Islamic rules.

Sorry for your bruised egos we cannot compromise on deen.


,umeeb sab ta kho chee da endwanay umra spogmee wee bia hum na khkari.

shukar day chee da zal maa hum Masjid Qasim Ali Khan pa paisaly banday roja waneewa gani no bas dwa ba tlee

So following the decision of halal committe is going against deen as if deen ask you to follow papadum and make personal judgement by going against your own government..har bunda bana.ley apni dedh ent k masjid phir

 

[Hell hound]

@Hell hound dude everything ok?

yep everything is fine.all my homies form Peshawar saudia uk usa has already left for the party while i and my eastern buddies are waiting for our rides.
tay farishtian no roohafza pila rahey a is waley jadon tikar sawari nahi a jandi

Spotted the moon today myself
Ramzan Mubarik

@django @The Sandman @Hell hound @I.R.A @Moonlight @The Eagle @PakSword @Well.wisher

khair mubarik bro

 

[niaz]

Sir, he was right. You should've seen the moon today, it was definitely not a new moon but more like a day old.

It is only about 10 or so minutes difference between the setting of sun & the moon that decides whether the lunar month is of 29 days or 30 days. 29th crescent is thin & dim because it is setting very soon after the sun set. However new moon of the 30 day is brighter & thicker and remains visible on the horizon for an hour or so after sunset.
We used to look for the Ramadan & the Eid crescent in my early youth and one could clearly see the difference between the strengths of 29th & 30th new moon.

Islamic month starts with the sight of the new moon. Hadith 2378 of the Sahih Muslim clearly declares:
“Allah’s messenger (PBUH) said: Whenever you sight the new moon (of the month of Ramadan) observe fast and when you sight it (the new moon of Shawwal) break it, and if the sky is cloudy for you then observe fast for 30 days.”

If it is partly cloudy in one village, new moon would be hidden whereas the moon is not obscured and is sighted in the next village 10 miles away. Thus until the late middle ages; start of Ramadan & Eid on different days even in the neighbouring villages was not out of the ordinary.

Therefore it is not the question of whether Popalzai is right or wrong. My point is that even when the met office says that chances of sighting of new moon are slim and Ro’et –e-Hilal Committee looks at horizon with telescope without success. How is it that only the faithful at the Popalzai mosque in the city of Peshawar manage to sight the new moon same day as the Saudis year in and year out?

 

[Eagle_storm]

Thats great i and a large portion of kpk dont trust Popalzai

It's not about only trust it's also about sunnah and quran interpretation.

Go live your life if you got some ahadith on the way mufti naeem search for the moon. Lets share it and i have share the ahnaf view you can check it.
@Zibago

 

[Eagle_storm]

@Zibago


Iss kitab mi 4 imamo ki rai +ahadith aur chand ki tarteeb hai
Kitabul wadaliyah jild 2 babe ramzan

Par kar batay ki ap kaha par hai aur mufti naeem ko chand kew nazar nahe ata. Kew ki wo itna intishar pelana chahti hai ki kpk ki kisi bi ulma ko wo sunti he nahe.

Tu hum un ki kew sunay jab bat pehly si wazih hai.


Nechi hawala bi hai ahadith ki kitabu si.

 

[icebreaker2]

Pretty disgusting to see how people here are showing 'ilaqiyat' on this issue and throwing racist slurs at people who live a throw away distance from them. Moon positions are an astronomical phenomenan. It can be predicted in advance in years because of the system created by God which we now understand. No mula can decide how the moon will show up on a certain day. Pathetic forum members here are cheering a mula on the basis that he is from their area and providing idotic arguments like look at this picture, how can a cell phone capture the moon on the first day? What? Position of the moon is not disputable and any one who sees the moon when it is not supposed to be there including Popalazais witnesses are nothing but ignorant idotic liars. Full stop.

 

[Mian Babban]

https://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2017/05/ramazan-to-commence-on-saturday-mufti-popalzai/

Ye Kung Fu molvi kab sudhrey ga :-//

Kutte ki dum kabhi Seedhi hue hai ?

He seeks to divide pakistan in his own capacity hence the title kutty ke dum is an understatement...

When will you people come to your senses? Our Shahadats turn out to be right and you people always insults Pashtuns over this issue out of irrational Watan-parasti. This is moon from my rooftop on the evening when i did Aftar while you people were not having Rozas.

 

[Zibago]

@Zibago


Iss kitab mi 4 imamo ki rai +ahadith aur chand ki tarteeb hai
Kitabul wadaliyah jild 2 babe ramzan

Par kar batay ki ap kaha par hai aur mufti naeem ko chand kew nazar nahe ata. Kew ki wo itna intishar pelana chahti hai ki kpk ki kisi bi ulma ko wo sunti he nahe.

Tu hum un ki kew sunay jab bat pehly si wazih hai.


Nechi hawala bi hai ahadith ki kitabu si.

wo khud kpk ka hy

I think we should put met department incharge

 

[icebreaker2]

@Mian Babban So what is it then? Your twisted sense of Pashtun parasti?

 

[Mian Babban]

So following the decision of halal committe is going against deen as if deen ask you to follow papadum and make personal judgement by going against your own government..har bunda bana.ley apni dedh ent k masjid phir

And what kind of message is Pakistan giving to the Islamic world by starting Ramadan on wrong day?......Ramadan is month of ibadat, not of Pakistani-nationalism

 

[icebreaker2]

And what kind of message is Pakistan giving to the Islamic world by starting Ramadan on wrong day?......Ramadan is month of ibadat, not of Pakistani-nationalism

It has nothing to do with nationalism. The committee follows the rule that a month begins when the moon is sighted. Arguments can be made that this rule can be changed and a universal Islamic calendar can be adopted and months begin at the same time. In fact it has been proposed by some international committee on Islamic Calendar but Pakistani mullas will most probably not agree. There is no dispute on moon sighting every month of the year except for Ramadan and Eid. Simply because some mullah in a mosque in Peshawar and his followers some how see the the moon just because their forefathers did. No other observers using superior scientific methods sees the moon. The case is closed and shut unless the argument is for a change in procedure

 

[Kambojaric]

This is what I don't understand. As far as I know, even Central Asian countries started Ramadan fasting today. @Zibago

Saturday was confirmed the first day of Ramadan in 33 other countries also, whereas Bangladesh, Pakistan, India and Shia Muslims in Iraq declared Sunday May 28 to be their first day of Ramadan.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...ia-declares-saturday-day-170523103752367.html

Scientific proof:

https://twitter.com/x/status/868119824844632064

For years now there is a pattern which is whenever Saudi declares ramazan start, Pakistan has to start the following day, never the same. A part of me believes there is some vested interest in Pakistan's moon sighting committee which makes sure this same pattern holds true year after year. I mean I am not one to blindly follow imams as they are fallible just like the rest of us. However it beats me what this interest may be which is why I stay quite. However as you said all countries around Pakistan, north, south, east, west year after year see the moon before Pakistan. Coincidence? I dont know.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

And what kind of message is Pakistan giving to the Islamic world by starting Ramadan on wrong day?......Ramadan is month of ibadat, not of Pakistani-nationalism

I don't know why its hard for you guys to get along with central moon sighting committee . I don't know who is right or wrong but I just want entire country to observe month of ramdhan and eid on same day by following the decision of one central authority made for this purpose . If central moon sighting committee calculate it wrong then again this sin will be on shoulder of muft muneeb but it seem local mullah has ego problem and every mullah think that he is more knowledgeable than rest so his authority should not be challenge