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Rakhigarhi is possibly the biggest Harappan site, say archeologists.

Once I read a Pakistani article claiming how ancient Pakistanis were civilized while ancient Indian were living in jungles and at the same time you quote Aryan invasion theory at many places. :wacko: Pakistanis desperately try to look for difference between India and Pakistan since the time of Indus valley civilization, that's very fishy. :omghaha:

There are many differences between us.

Look at your rape culture for instance.

And that is only one example.
 
Please, you know this is a juvenile argument. No country can make unilateral claims and project it as the final truth. This is not religion. Nor is India North Korea.
This is a sample - https://student.gsu.edu/~elacy1/writingsample7.html
More will emerge on this site itself.

ASI is solely responsible for finding and the upkeep of sites in India. But any claim made has to stand scrutiny.
Besides, you are free to believe that Ganga civilization (Pakistani invention) is Indian while IVC is Pakistani. :haha:

But IVC where a bunch of Pa
What this word means in Urdu:

Cheras:
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:lol:

In my Mother tongue it means a Rat snake :o:
 
Once I read a Pakistani article claiming how ancient Pakistanis were civilized while ancient Indian were living in jungles and at the same time you quote Aryan invasion theory at many places. :wacko: Pakistanis desperately try to look for difference between India and Pakistan since the time of Indus valley civilization, that's very fishy. :omghaha:

I do not believe in AIT, I have spoken of AMT which I find more plausible now buzz up we both know you just come here every so often say a bunch of Bs then backtrack get banned for trolling and rinse plus repeat lol.
 
People do reach the site but as far as I know no other archeologist are allowed to examine any dig for themselves so unless GOI is hiding something they should be more forthcoming. In Pakistan even Indian archeologists are allowed to come dig for themselves along with locals and international archeologists or at least they were idk if any recent work is ongoing.

Other archaeologists can take part in excavation, but after rigorous paper work that is prevalent in everything needing govt permission in India. The regulation was created by the British, and red tapism continuous in India:

Legislations - Archaeological Survey of India

The Indian Treasure Trove Act, 1878 (Act No. VI of 1878) was promulgated to protect and preserve treasure found accidentally but had the archaeological and historical value. This Act was enacted to protect and preserve such treasures and their lawful disposal. In a landmark development in 1886, James Burgess, the then Director General succeeded in prevailing upon the Government for issuing directions: forbidding any person or agency to undertake excavation without prior consent of the Archaeological Survey and debarring officers from disposing of antiquities found or acquired without the permission of the Government.

Despite that, all the excavated items are kept on display, the sites opened for visitors. The claims go through scrutiny. It's not like the ASI can make a claim and world would believe with closed eyes. Besides, Rakhigarh was discovered as early as 63'

Rakhigarhi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rakhigarhi, or Rakhi Garhi (Hindi: राखीगढ़ी; Rakhi Shahpur + Rakhi Khas), is a village in Hisar District in the state of Haryana in India, around 150 kilometers from Delhi. In 1963 archeologists discovered that the village was the site of the largest known city of the so called Indus Valley civilization, a city that was much larger and more ancient than Harappa and Mohenjodaro sites.[1] It is situated on the dry bed of the river Sarasvati, which once flowed here and is believed to have dried up by 2000 BC.[2][3]
 
1. Possehl, Gregory L. "The Harappan Civilization in Gujarat: The Sorath and Sindhi Harappans." The Eastern Anthropologist 45.1-2 (1992): 117-154.
2. Meadow, R., and AJITA K. Patel. "From Mehrgarh to Harappa and Dholavira: Prehistoric Pastoralism in North-Western South Asia through the Harappan Period." Protohistory: Archaeology of the Harappan Civilization 2 (2002): 391-408.
3. A Comparison Study -
Liu, Li, Xingcan Chen, and Leping Jiang. "A study of Neolithic water buffalo remains from Zhejiang, China." Bulletin of the Indo-Pacific Prehistory Association: The Taipei Papers 24.2 (2004): 113-120.

There are many actually. Rakhigarhi is a new site and will take some time. I will wait.
:coffee:

I will try and find pdf reading of these sometime this weekend. :)
 
There are many differences between us.

Look at your rape culture for instance.

And that is only one example.

Can't disagree. I mean, what does a North-Easterner or a South Indian have in common?

they are almost diametrically opposed.
 
What this word means in Urdu:
Cheras:
so, whats the point what it means in urdu.....
what is more important is what is meant in Dravidian language......
I can bet there are many words in urdu which means something other or even disgusting in other language.......
Filthy Liar! Everyone knows Toilets don't exist in India :P

It's hard to make sense of India at that age.

Hell even Kerala was initially the Kingdom of Cheras and then after years of being seperated by kingdoms it joined into India.

Because Even during the period of Mauryas or the Guptas, I don't think a uniform Indian identity existed.
actually modern toilets are one of the ancient indian invention.......
it may sound weird but we even have a toilet museum in delhi....which boast of toilets from very ancient age in use in india.....
u need to visit and know this....

Wecome to Sulabh International Toilet Museum

New Delhi toilet museum boasts hundreds of ancient specimens | Mail Online
 
I do not believe in AIT, I have spoken of AMT which I find more plausible now buzz up we both know you just come here every so often say a bunch of Bs then backtrack get banned for trolling and rinse plus repeat lol.

There must be an airlift of Aryans not to destroy the settlements of inhabitants living between Durand Line and Radcliffe line, that's the whole basis how Indians don't have claim over IVC (although many of IVC sites lies inside India.) :haha::haha::haha:
 
what the hell does Shan mean by Indian aboriginals?

Indo-European Languages is a wrong classification done on flawed set of assertions.

Dravidian and Northern Indian languages have more commonalities than languages in Europe.

That Shan guy is still in colonial hangover, he thinks Britishers are superior and every good thing in this land is originated in a Europe .... :lol:

He is also forgetting that Indians(especially from south) are very good at logic and computations which is needed to develop a complex language like Sanskrit, unlike a simple language like English.
 
lol..look who is talking.....
India do has rape problem,,,,but the situation in pakistan is even worse.....
so, it does not suit a paksitani lecturing india abt rapes....
u need to know ur true identity then talk...living in delusion till now has cost ur country a lot.....
read this article....u will come to know the reality......

India Has A Rape Crisis, But Pakistan’s May Be Even Worse
mukhtar-mai.jpg

The tragedy has galvanized Indian women’s rights activists and other protesters to demand a complete overhaul of the nation’s police and legal systems and the imposition of improved public safety measures for girls and women.

The incident and ongoing sweep of protests may mark a historic turning point for Indian society.

However, rape is also a serious problem in India’s neighbor and bitter rival, Pakistan.
Rapes occur across Pakistan for a wide array of reasons – for pure lust, for revenge, to avenge a rejected marriage proposal, for religious and ethnic reasons, or simply to satisfy a predatory man’s desire to exert unadulterated brutality and power.

Adding to the unremitting horror, the social stigma surrounding rape frequently leads to the victim committing suicide (often aided and abetted by her own family) or being forcibly married to her attacker (to preserve her family’s "honor.")

Indeed, shortly after the highly publicized death of the Delhi student in a Singapore hospital, a 9-year-old girl was kidnapped, beaten and gang-raped by three men in Pakistan – a horrific incident that has hardly generated much media attention either on the sub-continent or the West. Nor did her suffering inspire massive public demonstrations of sympathy and outrage.

In this case, though, the girl’s mother defied threats from the rapists and informed local police, who soon arrested up to six suspects. The child remains in critical condition in a hospital.

This unspeakable episode occurred just weeks after a six-year-old Hindu girl was gang-raped in Sindh province.

In fact, rapes are so common (and typically unreported), that the perpetrators in Pakistan are rarely ever arrested, much less held over for trial, convicted and jailed.

Perhaps the most famous rape victim in Pakistan was Mukhtar Mai, the illiterate village woman in Punjab who endured a brutal sexual assault by up to 14 men in 2002, survived, sought justice through the courts and became a symbol of the country’s complete disregard for the fairer sex.

Almost all of her rapists were ultimately acquitted after a lengthy series of trials that went all the way up to the Pakistani Supreme Court nine years later. (The other defendant was sent away for life.)

“I felt like the whole world was with me,” she said, according to the Global Post. “But still I did not receive justice.”

In Mai’s case, her rape was ordered by the jirga (a council of elders in another village) after her brother had offended members of a rival clan.

Her ordeal attracted enormous attention from Pakistani politicians and celebrities as well as from foreign countries, but her application to leave the country was denied on accusations that she would “use” her tragedy to become “wealthy” in the West.

Mukhtar Mai remains in her native village, living in fear of reprisals over her extraordinarily courageous stand.

Meanwhile, despite Mai’s passing fame, sexual violence against women continues unabated in Pakistan, as religious conservatives in government thwart every effort to upgrade laws to protect females.

Data on sexual violence in Pakistan, as in India, are vague and believed to be vastly underreported. What both nations share is the existence of a “rape culture” where men have brutalized women for centuries with impunity.

Ayesha Hasan, a freelance journalist, told German broadcaster Deutsche Welle, “Every year some 2,900 women are raped in Pakistan, almost eight a day."

It is notoriously difficult to even prove a rape occurred – in some cases, the courts require eyewitness verification from four Muslim men (an impossibility in 99.99 percent of such incidents.) In addition, as a bizarre twist, female rape victims are themselves frequently arrested and imprisoned.

A report in Rediff suggested that up to 90 percent of Pakistani females have been victimized by domestic violence (not necessarily rape).

In an opinion piece published recently in Pakistan’s Express Tribune newspaper, a columnist wrote: "The plight of women who have faced rape and sexual assault in Pakistan has been largely confined to formulaic articles in the press, slow-moving cases in the courts, and frequent dropped charges due to bribes, threats of further violence and family pressure on the victim to avoid further 'shame.'"

Girls from religious minorities, including Hindus and Christians, are particularly vulnerable to sexual assault and rape, as well as to forcible conversion to Islam.

The Indian Express newspaper, citing a survey from the Society for the Protection of the Rights of the Child, reported that in 2011 alone almost 2,000 women from minority faiths in Pakistan were “forcibly converted to Islam through rape, torture and kidnappings.”

“The method of choice to convert the girls who are abducted is to have them marry within the Muslim community,” said the Asian Human Rights Commission.

On a broader scale, Shahla Haeri, a women's studies professor at Boston University, characterized rape in Pakistan as "often institutionalized and has the tacit and at times the explicit approval of the state.”

Maheen Usami, a journalist, put the grim reality of Pakistan in context in a blog published by the Express Tribune almost two years ago.

“Despite the lip service paid to the rights of women and their ‘honor,’ most women in Pakistan are treated as chattels and dirt, to be trod on, spat upon and trashed verbally and physically,” she fumed.

“If there is so much respect for women in Islam, then why is there a daily litany of abuse heaped on their head...
India Has A Rape Crisis, But Pakistan’s May Be Even Worse

you can also visit here to know more abt rape culture in pakistan.......

Rape in Pakistan » No Country for Women

and also...please state bomb and jihadi culture,,....we would like to know......


pak raz is so down market .......useless to disuses any think......his not even single post is sensible ......yuk
 
lol..look who is talking.....
India do has rape problem,,,,but the situation in pakistan is even worse.....
so, it does not suit a paksitani lecturing india abt rapes....
u need to know ur true identity then talk...living in delusion till now has cost ur country a lot.....
read this article....u will come to know the reality......

India Has A Rape Crisis, But Pakistan’s May Be Even Worse
mukhtar-mai.jpg

The tragedy has galvanized Indian women’s rights activists and other protesters to demand a complete overhaul of the nation’s police and legal systems and the imposition of improved public safety measures for girls and women.

The incident and ongoing sweep of protests may mark a historic turning point for Indian society.

However, rape is also a serious problem in India’s neighbor and bitter rival, Pakistan.
Rapes occur across Pakistan for a wide array of reasons – for pure lust, for revenge, to avenge a rejected marriage proposal, for religious and ethnic reasons, or simply to satisfy a predatory man’s desire to exert unadulterated brutality and power.

Adding to the unremitting horror, the social stigma surrounding rape frequently leads to the victim committing suicide (often aided and abetted by her own family) or being forcibly married to her attacker (to preserve her family’s "honor.")

Indeed, shortly after the highly publicized death of the Delhi student in a Singapore hospital, a 9-year-old girl was kidnapped, beaten and gang-raped by three men in Pakistan – a horrific incident that has hardly generated much media attention either on the sub-continent or the West. Nor did her suffering inspire massive public demonstrations of sympathy and outrage.

In this case, though, the girl’s mother defied threats from the rapists and informed local police, who soon arrested up to six suspects. The child remains in critical condition in a hospital.

This unspeakable episode occurred just weeks after a six-year-old Hindu girl was gang-raped in Sindh province.

In fact, rapes are so common (and typically unreported), that the perpetrators in Pakistan are rarely ever arrested, much less held over for trial, convicted and jailed.

Perhaps the most famous rape victim in Pakistan was Mukhtar Mai, the illiterate village woman in Punjab who endured a brutal sexual assault by up to 14 men in 2002, survived, sought justice through the courts and became a symbol of the country’s complete disregard for the fairer sex.

Almost all of her rapists were ultimately acquitted after a lengthy series of trials that went all the way up to the Pakistani Supreme Court nine years later. (The other defendant was sent away for life.)

“I felt like the whole world was with me,” she said, according to the Global Post. “But still I did not receive justice.”

In Mai’s case, her rape was ordered by the jirga (a council of elders in another village) after her brother had offended members of a rival clan.

Her ordeal attracted enormous attention from Pakistani politicians and celebrities as well as from foreign countries, but her application to leave the country was denied on accusations that she would “use” her tragedy to become “wealthy” in the West.

Mukhtar Mai remains in her native village, living in fear of reprisals over her extraordinarily courageous stand.

Meanwhile, despite Mai’s passing fame, sexual violence against women continues unabated in Pakistan, as religious conservatives in government thwart every effort to upgrade laws to protect females.

Data on sexual violence in Pakistan, as in India, are vague and believed to be vastly underreported. What both nations share is the existence of a “rape culture” where men have brutalized women for centuries with impunity.

Ayesha Hasan, a freelance journalist, told German broadcaster Deutsche Welle, “Every year some 2,900 women are raped in Pakistan, almost eight a day."

It is notoriously difficult to even prove a rape occurred – in some cases, the courts require eyewitness verification from four Muslim men (an impossibility in 99.99 percent of such incidents.) In addition, as a bizarre twist, female rape victims are themselves frequently arrested and imprisoned.

A report in Rediff suggested that up to 90 percent of Pakistani females have been victimized by domestic violence (not necessarily rape).

In an opinion piece published recently in Pakistan’s Express Tribune newspaper, a columnist wrote: "The plight of women who have faced rape and sexual assault in Pakistan has been largely confined to formulaic articles in the press, slow-moving cases in the courts, and frequent dropped charges due to bribes, threats of further violence and family pressure on the victim to avoid further 'shame.'"

Girls from religious minorities, including Hindus and Christians, are particularly vulnerable to sexual assault and rape, as well as to forcible conversion to Islam.

The Indian Express newspaper, citing a survey from the Society for the Protection of the Rights of the Child, reported that in 2011 alone almost 2,000 women from minority faiths in Pakistan were “forcibly converted to Islam through rape, torture and kidnappings.”

“The method of choice to convert the girls who are abducted is to have them marry within the Muslim community,” said the Asian Human Rights Commission.

On a broader scale, Shahla Haeri, a women's studies professor at Boston University, characterized rape in Pakistan as "often institutionalized and has the tacit and at times the explicit approval of the state.”

Maheen Usami, a journalist, put the grim reality of Pakistan in context in a blog published by the Express Tribune almost two years ago.

“Despite the lip service paid to the rights of women and their ‘honor,’ most women in Pakistan are treated as chattels and dirt, to be trod on, spat upon and trashed verbally and physically,” she fumed.

“If there is so much respect for women in Islam, then why is there a daily litany of abuse heaped on their head...
India Has A Rape Crisis, But Pakistan’s May Be Even Worse

you can also visit here to know more abt rape culture in pakistan.......

Rape in Pakistan » No Country for Women

and also...please state bomb and jihadi culture,,....we would like to know......

Ahan...
 
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