Rafale Scam - SaafBaat

[Peshwa]

Azhar Muhammad?
Khali wali?

Lol

China 1
India 0

Ask my dear Ashok, what joy do you get from this?
Kashmir wasn't Modi's creation, so why the anti India stance in this?
Why the point scoring here? It's hard to understand your perspective and agenda when you make such posts.

 

[ashok321]

Ask my dear Ashok, what joy do you get from this?
Kashmir wasn't Modi's creation, so why the anti India stance in this?
Why the point scoring here? It's hard to understand your perspective and agenda when you make such posts.

Modi wants to fight China.

So he would have to face consequences which are obvious without spelling them out.

Amarnath Yatra.
Loss of UNSC/NSG seat.
Trade screw up.
Azhar Mahmmud included therein.

 

[mbashir]

Sounds a lot like cutting your nose to spite the face!
So as an indian, you want india to give up on its interest and lose a war to China just so modi is out of the helm of power?! Am I reading this right?

Let's take a hypothetical scenario where it is anybody (non bjp) in power other than modi. Would you recommend the same outcome?

I am no modi fan, but even I find this line of thinking to be ridiculous!

Now, I understand anything to convince him is waste of time.
He has gone to a state of imbalance where there is no return.
"Ek baar jo maine commitment kar di, fir main apne aap ki bhi nahi Sunta".
"Aata Majhi Satakli"

 

[Peshwa]

So Modi wants to start a war on the "Interest" pretext?
Is it tenable in the security council?
No.

What if the US did the same with India on "Interest" issue.
How legitimate or legal this would be?

Do you even know the implications?
India does not even have a UNSC seat.

India is not a country which would run amok with "regime change" theme.

Let's start with the basics.
What you have assumed is Chinese territory is claimed by Bhutan. Indian and Bhutan are allies with a treaty where Indians will come to Bhutanese aid.
India is only honoring its treaty with its neighbor. Bhutan is Indian interest and we have to protect our interest.
India has not started ANY war, but has been in a defensive position to protect its interest. Starting war would be to fire a bullet. Pray tell, has india done any such thing?
In the Indian POV we are sitting on Bhutanese territory.
But your POV already awards that piece of land to the Chinese when the claim is disputed.
So my dear, you made and assumption and are now defending it under the wrong pretext.

Modi wants to fight China.

So he would have to face consequences which are obvious without spelling them out.

Amarnath Yatra.
Loss of UNSC/NSG seat.
Trade screw up.
Azhar Mahmmud included therein.

I'm sorry, but I'm drawing a disconnect here.
What does this have to do with the Kashmir insurgency?
Why the need to post this in a thread that is talking about killing terrorist?

 

[ashok321]

Let's start with the basics.
What you have assumed is Chinese territory is claimed by Bhutan. Indian and Bhutan are allies with a treaty where Indians will come to Bhutanese aid.
India is only honoring its treaty with its neighbor. Bhutan is Indian interest and we have to protect our interest.
.

So let Bhutan & China resolve this issue.
Why India is meddling here?
So much so that it trespassed on such territory.
Illegitimate.
Friendship treaty does not hold any water.
Defense treaty does.

I'm sorry, but I'm drawing a disconnect here.
What does this have to do with the Kashmir insurgency?
Why the need to post this in a thread that is talking about killing terrorist?

Killing terrorist, I got nothing to do with it.
They are killed everyday in India.
They kill, they get killed.

 

[war&peace]

Modi is chor PM of India.

I agree with you on this

 

[ashok321]

I agree with you on this

Modi is a Pied Piper
And all right wing followers his rats.

 

[Peshwa]

So let Bhutan & China resolve this issue.
Why India is meddling here?
So much so that it trespassed on such territory.
Illegitimate.
Friendship treaty does not hold any water.
Defense treaty does.

India is not meddling, it is conducting its responsibility to Bhutan. This does not amount to "starting war". No bullets have been fired!
Bhutan is an Indian protectorate and Indian troops are there to protect Bhutanese sovereignty which is in Indian interest. Please provide a source that says that the treaty signed does not include Indian troops defending Bhutan.
China and Bhutan can solve it anyway they want. But until that happens, Indian troops will remain there.
Lastly, as I said, from Indian POV and Bhutanese, we are on Bhutanese land. It is your assumption that the area is Chinese territory.

Killing terrorist, I got nothing to do with it.
They are killed everyday in India.
They kill, they get killed.

Well, maybe now you understand why people are painting you traitor or false flagger.
If you had explained your perspective, many here wouldn't be so quick to paint you as such.

 

[ashok321]

India is not meddling, it is conducting its responsibility to Bhutan. This does not amount to "starting war". No bullets have been fired!.

India has crossed a territory which does not belong to her.
Why such dadagiri?

 

[Peshwa]

Modi is a Pied Piper
And all right wing followers his rats.

See now if you keep your agenda to Modi bashing, no Indian would be opposed to it.

But when you start to promote and celebrate Indian loss and India learning some kind of lesson at the hands of a foreign country just to hurt modi, that actually is hurting India.
So please be careful how you word your statements.

India has crossed a territory which does not belong to her.
Why such dadagiri?

India is on Bhutanese territory by Bhutanese invitation. Where is the dadagiri?

 

[ashok321]

India is on Bhutanese territory by Bhutanese invitation. Where is the dadagiri?

That is the pretext something that is not backed up solid facts.
China had given a friendly notice to India that they are building a road there.
To use armor bulldozer and toss the Chinese soldiers away is an act of war by India.

 

[Peshwa]

That is the pretext something that is not backed up solid facts.
China had given a friendly notice to India that they are building a road there.
To use armor bulldozer and toss the Chinese soldiers away is an act of war by India.

No it is not!
It is but a friendly reminder to the Chinese that the territory belongs to Bhutan who is protected by India.
If at all, it is an act of war against Bhutan when the Chinese unilaterally build a road on Bhutanese territory. India is only conducting its responsibility and honoring its commitment to Bhutan by protecting their territory from the Chinese.

If anything, this is Chinese "Dadagiri" that India is stepping in to curb.
Unless you're of the notion that David was the bully and Goliath the victim!

That is the pretext something that is not backed up solid facts.
China had given a friendly notice to India that they are building a road there.
To use armor bulldozer and toss the Chinese soldiers away is an act of war by India.

Secondly, why are the Chinese giving us the "friendly notice"? Shouldn't it be to the Bhutanese?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

But such is India

When I say this, I mean Modi's India now.
Remember I am not writing a book here.
Word to the wise is enough.

As for the right winger rats, I reiterate that they are very much so.
For they are condoning the dishonest behavior of Modi.



If you do not know all that I write, how would you know?
Today for example I started a following thread:

Indian-Origin Kid, With IQ Higher Than Einstein, Has Turned Into An Overnight Hero On British TV

And before that too I have started threads favoring India.

No, I don't make it my business to follow You.
I have seen plenty of your entries and so far 100 % negative vs India.
That is why I asked.

One who is avoiding my questions is YOU.

On the following example, I found you to be silent:

Not a single comment about this man who is the PM of biggest democracy.
If I were you, I would have been anxious to know more of it by asking how is this possible type - Remember no other PM does that. Its a singular example from the biggest democratic nation.

So avoiding is clearly your business which you are foisting on me.
How imprudent of you.
Unbecoming of any Swede.

I generally avoid arguing about things I know little about.
But that's just me.
I do see how facts were tweaked in Your OP.
The OP contains the proof of the false comparision.

 

[ashok321]

No it is not!
It is but a friendly reminder to the Chinese that the territory belongs to Bhutan

Bhutan himself agrees that this territory is disputed between it and China:

In 2004, Bhutan's Secretary for International Borders reported the same claims to the National Assembly.

http://www.nab.gov.bt/assets/uploads/docs/resolution/2014/82nd_Session.pdf

 

[Peshwa]

Bhutan himself agrees that this territory is disputed between it and China:


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In 2004, Bhutan's Secretary for International Borders reported the same claims to the National Assembly.

http://www.nab.gov.bt/assets/uploads/docs/resolution/2014/82nd_Session.pdf

The meaning of a dispute is the opposing claims on the land.
Clearly the Bhutanese consider this their land, and the Chinese consider it theirs.
For the Chinese to unilaterally change the status quo by building roads on a disputed territory is an act of war and bullying!
If the Chinese claim they are building a road on their "land" then by the same logic Indian troops are parked Bhutanese land.