‘Rafale is as good as any 5th-generation aircraft’: French defence minister

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Instead of cryin read the source he provided... as for license producing su-30 engine.. read the source i provide... even this year india imported 10+ engines from russia... as for designing a turbojet in 60s... yeah right... And keep quiet? lol.. go feed 450 million mouths first instead of ranting.... same goes for the few small parts you produce for su-30..

There is an article by NYTIMES

"After Decades of Neglect, Pakistan Rusts in Its Tracks" , google it.

Its an eyeopener. Propaganda is good only when it's believable. Try some reality for a change.

 

[DrSomnath999]

The nosecone of the rafale is too small to house a AESA radar with enough T-R modules to compete with 5th gen designs.

OMG !!

not that T/R module drama again

Ok i would explain u in better way learn!

1) 1st of all no doubt larger T/R module Aesa radar would have longer detection range but u must understand against a stealth target no matter how much powerful aesa radar a plane may have it cant detect a 5th gen fighter from more than 100-120km for sure.
Meanwhile RBE 2 aesa radar has a range of 170-200km against a fighter size target so nomatter how Much larger diameter radar u fit in rafale's nose can it cant detect a stealth plane from more than 100km range .

Meanwhile Rafale's FSO can detect an IR signature of a plane that may be even a stealth plane from 120km

2) 2ndly if i was fighter pilot fighting against rafale i would rather turn off my radar & rather rely on AWACS /or passive detection that may be from IR signature through IRST becoz Rafale's Spectra can detect my plane 's Electro magnetic radar signals from more than 200km iteslf & can locate it very accurately & can cue it's meteor missile without turning on it's own aesa
radar for stealth reason.
only F22's ALR 94 system is known to possess such capabilty tilll now

CHEERS

 

[klub]

OMG !!

not that T/R module drama again

Ok i would explain u in better way learn!

1) 1st of all no doubt larger T/R module Aesa radar would have longer detection range but u must understand against a stealth target no matter how much powerful aesa radar a plane may have it cant detect a 5th gen fighter from more than 100-120km for sure.
Meanwhile RBE 2 aesa radar has a range of 170-200km against a fighter size target so nomatter how Much larger diameter radar u fit in rafale's nose can it cant detect a stealth plane from more than 100km range .

Meanwhile Rafale's FSO can detect an IR signature of a plane that may be even a stealth plane from 120km

2) 2ndly if i was fighter pilot fighting against rafale i would rather turn off my radar & rather rely on AWACS /or passive detection that may be from IR signature through IRST becoz Rafale's Spectra can detect my plane 's Electro magnetic radar signals from more than 200km iteslf & can locate it very accurately & can cue it's meteor missile without turning on it's own aesa
radar for stealth reason.
only F22's ALR 94 system is known to possess such capabilty tilll now

CHEERS

Actually your'e a little off here. Rafale does have a AESA radar with 1000 gallium arcsenide T/R modules. Su35 has a ESA, J20 & J10 have PESA as of now.

F35's AN/ASQ-239 (Barracuda) system can detect a mssile launch at 1200km , f22 can detect a plane at 500km. Pray that Russia allows some Israeli - Indian EW equipment on PAKFA. Beast!

 

[DrSomnath999]

Actually your'e a little off here. Rafale does have a AESA radar with 1000 gallium arcsenide T/R modules. Su35 has a ESA, J20 & J10 have PESA as of now.

LLOLLZ
hey man!!
who is denying that rafale doesnt have aesa radar
Ofcourse may be i am indeed off that' why My ghost posted this thread
http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/163714-rafales-mini-encylopedia-its-fanboyz.html

BTW SU 35 & J20 would have AESA radar dont worry it's matter of time

 

[klub]

LLOLLZ
hey man!!
who is denying that rafale doesnt have aesa radar
Ofcourse may be i am indeed off that' why My ghost posted this thread

BTW SU 35 & J20 would have AESA radar dont worry it's matter of time

SU35 never. J20 in Looong run. ESA tech is not easy. Till now they have only got a PESA on J10B prototype. Confirmed via pics from Beijing aviation museum. J20 AESA 5 yrs atleast , unless they receive another "source".

 

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Its like Saying Kapil Dev is as Good As Ishant Sharma

 

[DrSomnath999]

SU35 never. J20 in Looong run. ESA tech is not easy. Till now they have only got a PESA on J10B prototype. Confirmed via pics from Beijing aviation museum. J20 AESA 5 yrs atleast , unless they receive another "source".

SU- 35 can be fitted with Pakfa aesa radar if required in future

Here the source

They might also retrofit the PAK-FA AESA onto the Su-35… It currently has a passive electronically scanned array installed.

- See more at: Sukhoi starts testing new AESA radar on PAK-FA | The DEW Line

J20 would be fitted with aesa radar ,hmm by hook or crook they would produce(Ctrlc + Ctrl V)or buy it from russia ( put an indigeniuos label ) in it & say it's indigenious .

SO thats why i said it is just a matter of time


CHEERS

 

[klub]

Anyhow AESA is long off for China now. PESA yes in 2 yrs operational AESA 2019 operational or so.

SU- 35 can be fitted with Pakfa aesa radar if required in future

Here the source

- See more at:

J20 would be fitted with aesa radar ,hmm by hook or crook they would produce(Ctrlc + Ctrl V)or buy it from russia ( put an indigeniuos label ) in it & say it's indigenious .

SO thats why i said it is just a matter of time


CHEERS

That's an ESA hybrid with greater power output. Russians can't even make a full 120 degree azimuth and elevation ardar with 2300 nodes like F22. The PAKFA with a elevation bar can do only 120 degree azimuth and 60 elevation. Gallium arsenide nodes are still new for them so development may not be ready till 2015-16.