Racial Origin of the Muslim Population and their Social Stratification under Bengal Sultanate

[Kinetic]

u know again i will say you should come to bd. or you can look into wiki... apart from hilltrack they can also be found all over the country....except khulna every division has this type of ethic people.

I know about BD, most some pics about your claims like me. You are claiming something which is not real. Mongoloid ... No.

 

[SrNair]

So Bangladeshis are basically Turkish
@BDforever

 

[Kinetic]

stop spreading bs, Pak people have not mixed with anyone. Everything is native to **** region.

Thats the biggest lie on PDF. Even Pakistanis will disagree. Read the history of South Asia. Pakistani is region is most attacked and mostly mixed.

So Bangladeshis are basically Turkish
@BDforever

Do you have any doubt??? I always knew they are. Tall fair and tight central asians.

 

[bongbang]

So Bangladeshis are basically Turkish
@BDforever

We have a proverb in bengali which says, Sara rat ramayan pore.akhon bole sita kar bap
Reading all night ramayan now asks whose father is Sita? It suits you well

 

[Kinetic]

Kinetic yes I would agree. in Pakistan we have a west east divide running through the middle of the country roughly along the Indus River. People on the left side are Iranic looking and most could pass off for Iranian, Turks or even Greeks. There are two ethnic groups Pashtun and Baloch both from Khyber Pak province and Balochistan province. On the east flank that faces India we have the largest province, Punjab and Sind. Punjab is almost carbon copy of Indian Punjab as that match continues over into the old Punjab region, Haryana and himachel Pradesh.

I think beyond Himachel the mix starts changing to the point where the differance becomes discernible. So I would draw a line at Haryana. Of course as we agreed you can get individuels looking similar to even Bengali's but those are anomolies. Or if you like odd balls.

Having said that Pak Punjab is broadly similar to Indian Punjab but there are some minor differances. Where Pak Punjab meets Khyber Pak like near Islamabad or Potohar, Hazara there is a 'mix zone' between Punjabi and Pashtun where people speak Hindkho like around Taxila. This does not happen in Indian Punjab. Again Pak Punjab is more open to the West and that makes a slight differance.

Same in Sindh. Over the generations many Baloch have settled and mixed. So again that makes a differance. I always look at Pakistan like a Punjabi, Pashtun, Baloch, Sindhi, Kashmiri Massala Mix that is sprayed with Islam. I think that describes Pakistan nicely.

I know it's simplyfing a complex thing but if you want a quick fast description I believe that explains Pakistan.

Punjabi, Pashtun, Baloch, Sindhi, Kashmiri Massala mix sprayed with Islam ===> Pakistan.

* I exclude smaller exotic groups like Kalash, Hunza, Hazarah etc as they are too small to make any national impact.

These guy's dancing are on the fracture zone betwen west and east and that is visible in the mix. They are not to far from Pakistan's capital Islamabad or adjacent to Taxila/Abottabad.

Waziristan Attan In Abottabad By Ahmad hussain - YouTube

Agree with you but except the bold part. Don't know how but many in Bengal, Odisha, UP and Bihar are very fair and tall. Even look at the genetics, they are different and the number of % would be around 30% roughly. But yes most of the people are black in these regions of North india containing Indian DNA. This Y DNA is significantly found in Brahminsa and People of Punjab (both India and Pakistan).


(sorted by high to low %)

Continental Country Population Sample R1a1 = SRY1532.2 positive, M17/M198 not tested (%) R1a1* = SRY1532.2 positive, M17/M198 negative (%) R1a1a = SRY1532.2 positive, M17/M198 positive (%) Source
South Asia India West Bengal (Brahmins) 30 NA 0.00 72.22 Sharma et al. (2009)
South Asia Pakistan Mohanna 70 NA 0.00 71.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia Nepal/India Hindus (proxy for Indian ancestry) Chitwan, Nepal 26 NA 0.00 69.2 Fornarino et al. (2009)
Central Asia Tajikistan Ishkashimi (near Afghanistan) 25 NA NA 68.0 Wells et al. (2001)
South Asia India Uttar Pradesh (Brahmins) 31 NA 0.00 67.74 Sharma et al. (2009)
South Asia India Khatri-Punjab/Haryana 15 NA 0.00 67.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
Central Asia Tajikistan Tajiks/Panjikent 22 NA NA 64.0 Wells et al. (2001)
Europe Germany Sorbs 112 NA 0.00 63.4 Behar et al. (2003)
South Asia India Ahir-Punjab/Haryana 24 NA 0.00 63.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
Central Asia Kyrgyzstan Kyrgyz 52 NA NA 63.0 Wells et al. (2001)
South Asia Pakistan Pakistan Hazara 23 NA NA 60.9 Qamar et al. (2002)
South Asia India Bihar (Brahmins) 38 NA 0.00 60.53 Sharma et al. (2009)
South Asia India Lohana Gujarat 20 NA 0.00 60.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
Europe Hungary Hungarian 45 NA NA 60.0 Semino et al. (2000)
Central Asia Afghanistan Nuristanis 5 NA NA 60.0 Haber et al. (2012)
Europe Belarus Brest 97 NA 0.00 58.8 Underhill et al. (2014)
North Asia Russia (Altai Republic) Southern Altaians (Beshpel'tir) 43 NA NA 58.1 Kharkov et al. (2007)
Europe Russia Tver region Russian 38 NA 0.00 57.9 Mirabal et al. (2009)
Europe Poland 913 NA NA 57.0 Kayser et al. (2005)
Europe Hungary 53 NA 0.00 56.6 Battaglia et al. (2008)
Europe Poland 99 NA 0.00 56.6 Battaglia et al. (2008)
Europe Poland Polish 55 NA NA 56.4 Semino et al. (2000)
Europe Belarus 267 NA 0.00 54.7 Underhill et al. (2014)
Europe Ukraine Ukrainian 50 NA NA 54.0 Semino et al. (2000)
Europe Russia Kursk region Russian 40 NA 0.00 52.5 Mirabal et al. (2009)
North Asia Russia (Altai Republic) Southern Altaians (Kulada) 46 NA NA 52.2 Kharkov et al. (2007)
Europe - Ashkenazi Levite 60 NA 0.00 51.7 Behar et al. (2003)
Central Asia Afghanistan Pashtuns 49 NA NA 51.02 Haber et al. (2012)
Europe Belorussia 306 NA 0.33 51.0 Behar et al. (2003)
South Asia India Indo-European Middle Caste 48 NA NA 50.4 Sengupta et al. (2005)
Europe Ukraine 92 NA 0.00 50.0 Battaglia et al. (2008)
North Asia Russia (Altai Republic) Northern Altaians (Gorno-Altaisk) 20 NA NA 50.0 Kharkov et al. (2007)
South Asia India Uttar-Pradesh Jharkhand 171 NA 0.00 49.71 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia Pakistan Sindhi 134 NA 0.00 49.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia India West-Bengal Chattishgarh 49 NA 0.00 48.98 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia India Uttranchal Jharkhand 21 NA 0.00 47.62 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia India Himachal Pradesh (Brahmin) 30 NA 0.00 47.37 Sharma et al. (2009)
South Asia India Punjab 66 NA NA 47.0 Kivisild et al. (2003)
Asia Russia Russian, Tashkent 89 NA NA 47.0 Wells et al. (2001)
Europe Belorussia 68 NA NA 45.6 Kharkov et al. (2005)
South Asia India Indo-European Upper Caste 86 NA NA 45.4 Sengupta et al. (2005)
South Asia Pakistan Pathan (Pashtun) 96 NA NA 44.8 Firasat et al. (2007)
Europe Ukraine 94 NA NA 43.6 Kharkov et al. (2004)
South Asia India Maharashtra (Brahmins) 32 NA 0.00 43.33 Sharma et al. (2009)
Europe Russia Russian, North 49 NA NA 43.0 Wells et al. (2001)
Europe Belarus 50 NA 0.00 42.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia India Konkanastha Brahmins, Bombay 43 NA NA 41.9 Kivisild et al. (2003)
Europe Ukraine Ukrainians, Rashkovo 53 NA NA 41.5 Varzari (2006)
North Asia Russia Altaians 58 NA 0.00 41.38 Underhill et al. (2009)
Europe Czech Republic 75 NA 0.00 41.3 Battaglia et al. (2008)
South Asia India Kashmiri (Gujars) 49 NA 0.00 40.86 Sharma et al. (2009)
South Asia India Bihar (Paswan) 27 NA 0.00 40.74 Sharma et al. (2009)
Central Asia Tajikistan Bartangi 30 NA NA 40.0 Wells et al. (2001)
South Asia India South India Sourashtran 46 NA NA 39.0 Wells et al. (2001)
Europe Slovenia Slovenians 75 NA 0.00 38.70 Battaglia et al. (2008)
South Asia India West Bengal 31 NA NA 38.7 Kivisild et al. (2003)
Europe Russia Russians 39 NA 0.00 38.46 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia India Madhya Pradesh (Brahmins) 42 NA 0.00 38.1

Bangladesh is deep deep South Asia.

They have absolutely nothing in common in blood and genetics with anyone to the west of them.

Pakistanis are blended as they are at the cusp of the continent and had more contact with outside world.

Bangla has been tucked away behind Indian jungles for a millennium.

This is basic geography.

Even genetics says the same about Bangladesh. Read my post above. But they are claiming to be from central asia!

 

[SrNair]

We have a proverb in bengali which says, Sara rat ramayan pore.akhon bole sita kar bap
Reading all night ramayan now asks whose father is Sita? It suits you well

That was a statement .Not a question
We also have the same proverb in our language.


Ya bro .They are soo Turkish .I have seen a lots BD labourers in our state (mostly illegal) ,Man they are soooo awesome even Brad Pitt wouldbe ashamed .

Thats the biggest lie on PDF. Even Pakistanis will disagree. Read the history of South Asia. Pakistani is region is most attacked and mostly mixed.




Do you have any doubt??? I always knew they are. Tall fair and tight central asians.

 

[pagla baba]

I know about BD, most some pics about your claims like me. You are claiming something which is not real. Mongoloid ... No.

i don^t wanna west my time in this.......admit it or refuse it*s ur matter,.......if u never saw any bd personally or visited bd ,then why u act like that u know bd better than me,,,,i don^t know.........

 

[Kinetic]

That was a statement .Not a question
We also have the same proverb in our language.


Ya bro .They are soo Turkish .I have seen a lots BD labourers in our state (mostly illegal) ,Man they are soooo awesome even Brad Pitt wouldbe ashamed .

Don't know bro, why they are trying so hard to be Arabic!!! And what is there to be proud of!!!! People often will find many reasons to be ashamed of being Arabic, WTF is this!

i don^t wanna west my time in this.......admit it or refuse it*s ur matter,.......if u never saw any bd personally or visited bd ,then why u act like,, u know bd better than me,,,,i don^t know.........

SrNair saab, now someone else is claiming Bangladeshis are mainly mongoloid!!

 

[bongbang]

Ya bro .They are soo Turkish .I have seen a lots BD labourers in our state (mostly illegal) ,Man they are soooo awesome even Brad Pitt wouldbe ashamed .

That is creating most problems here. All the near past poor converts couldnt change their fate. You are talking about them. BD upper, upper middle and middle class looks relatively well.

That was a statement .Not a question

Actually in this thread no one claimed as such you were proposing. We know our country and phenomenon among our people. Other nationalists are getting hyper here.

 

[pagla baba]

Agree with you but except the bold part. Don't know how but many in Bengal, Odisha, UP and Bihar are very fair and tall. Even look at the genetics, they are different and the number of % would be around 30% roughly. But yes most of the people are black in these regions of North india containing Indian DNA. This Y DNA is significantly found in Brahminsa and People of Punjab (both India and Pakistan).


(sorted by high to low %)

Continental Country Population Sample R1a1 = SRY1532.2 positive, M17/M198 not tested (%) R1a1* = SRY1532.2 positive, M17/M198 negative (%) R1a1a = SRY1532.2 positive, M17/M198 positive (%) Source
South Asia India West Bengal (Brahmins) 30 NA 0.00 72.22 Sharma et al. (2009)
South Asia Pakistan Mohanna 70 NA 0.00 71.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia Nepal/India Hindus (proxy for Indian ancestry) Chitwan, Nepal 26 NA 0.00 69.2 Fornarino et al. (2009)
Central Asia Tajikistan Ishkashimi (near Afghanistan) 25 NA NA 68.0 Wells et al. (2001)
South Asia India Uttar Pradesh (Brahmins) 31 NA 0.00 67.74 Sharma et al. (2009)
South Asia India Khatri-Punjab/Haryana 15 NA 0.00 67.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
Central Asia Tajikistan Tajiks/Panjikent 22 NA NA 64.0 Wells et al. (2001)
Europe Germany Sorbs 112 NA 0.00 63.4 Behar et al. (2003)
South Asia India Ahir-Punjab/Haryana 24 NA 0.00 63.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
Central Asia Kyrgyzstan Kyrgyz 52 NA NA 63.0 Wells et al. (2001)
South Asia Pakistan Pakistan Hazara 23 NA NA 60.9 Qamar et al. (2002)
South Asia India Bihar (Brahmins) 38 NA 0.00 60.53 Sharma et al. (2009)
South Asia India Lohana Gujarat 20 NA 0.00 60.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
Europe Hungary Hungarian 45 NA NA 60.0 Semino et al. (2000)
Central Asia Afghanistan Nuristanis 5 NA NA 60.0 Haber et al. (2012)
Europe Belarus Brest 97 NA 0.00 58.8 Underhill et al. (2014)
North Asia Russia (Altai Republic) Southern Altaians (Beshpel'tir) 43 NA NA 58.1 Kharkov et al. (2007)
Europe Russia Tver region Russian 38 NA 0.00 57.9 Mirabal et al. (2009)
Europe Poland 913 NA NA 57.0 Kayser et al. (2005)
Europe Hungary 53 NA 0.00 56.6 Battaglia et al. (2008)
Europe Poland 99 NA 0.00 56.6 Battaglia et al. (2008)
Europe Poland Polish 55 NA NA 56.4 Semino et al. (2000)
Europe Belarus 267 NA 0.00 54.7 Underhill et al. (2014)
Europe Ukraine Ukrainian 50 NA NA 54.0 Semino et al. (2000)
Europe Russia Kursk region Russian 40 NA 0.00 52.5 Mirabal et al. (2009)
North Asia Russia (Altai Republic) Southern Altaians (Kulada) 46 NA NA 52.2 Kharkov et al. (2007)
Europe - Ashkenazi Levite 60 NA 0.00 51.7 Behar et al. (2003)
Central Asia Afghanistan Pashtuns 49 NA NA 51.02 Haber et al. (2012)
Europe Belorussia 306 NA 0.33 51.0 Behar et al. (2003)
South Asia India Indo-European Middle Caste 48 NA NA 50.4 Sengupta et al. (2005)
Europe Ukraine 92 NA 0.00 50.0 Battaglia et al. (2008)
North Asia Russia (Altai Republic) Northern Altaians (Gorno-Altaisk) 20 NA NA 50.0 Kharkov et al. (2007)
South Asia India Uttar-Pradesh Jharkhand 171 NA 0.00 49.71 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia Pakistan Sindhi 134 NA 0.00 49.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia India West-Bengal Chattishgarh 49 NA 0.00 48.98 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia India Uttranchal Jharkhand 21 NA 0.00 47.62 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia India Himachal Pradesh (Brahmin) 30 NA 0.00 47.37 Sharma et al. (2009)
South Asia India Punjab 66 NA NA 47.0 Kivisild et al. (2003)
Asia Russia Russian, Tashkent 89 NA NA 47.0 Wells et al. (2001)
Europe Belorussia 68 NA NA 45.6 Kharkov et al. (2005)
South Asia India Indo-European Upper Caste 86 NA NA 45.4 Sengupta et al. (2005)
South Asia Pakistan Pathan (Pashtun) 96 NA NA 44.8 Firasat et al. (2007)
Europe Ukraine 94 NA NA 43.6 Kharkov et al. (2004)
South Asia India Maharashtra (Brahmins) 32 NA 0.00 43.33 Sharma et al. (2009)
Europe Russia Russian, North 49 NA NA 43.0 Wells et al. (2001)
Europe Belarus 50 NA 0.00 42.00 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia India Konkanastha Brahmins, Bombay 43 NA NA 41.9 Kivisild et al. (2003)
Europe Ukraine Ukrainians, Rashkovo 53 NA NA 41.5 Varzari (2006)
North Asia Russia Altaians 58 NA 0.00 41.38 Underhill et al. (2009)
Europe Czech Republic 75 NA 0.00 41.3 Battaglia et al. (2008)
South Asia India Kashmiri (Gujars) 49 NA 0.00 40.86 Sharma et al. (2009)
South Asia India Bihar (Paswan) 27 NA 0.00 40.74 Sharma et al. (2009)
Central Asia Tajikistan Bartangi 30 NA NA 40.0 Wells et al. (2001)
South Asia India South India Sourashtran 46 NA NA 39.0 Wells et al. (2001)
Europe Slovenia Slovenians 75 NA 0.00 38.70 Battaglia et al. (2008)
South Asia India West Bengal 31 NA NA 38.7 Kivisild et al. (2003)
Europe Russia Russians 39 NA 0.00 38.46 Underhill et al. (2009)
South Asia India Madhya Pradesh (Brahmins) 42 NA 0.00 38.1




Even genetics says the same about Bangladesh. Read my post above. But they are claiming to be from central asia!

well we aren^t 100% central asia.we just have a litte bit portion of their gen that^s all this guy is saying,.......why make such a big deal out of it........even before pakistan many arab setteled in chittagong while pakistan were rulled by dhair or something like that.......(u can see wiki)

 

[Saiful Islam]

well we aren^t 100% central asia.we just have a litte bit portion of their gen that^s all this guy is saying,.......why make such a big deal out of it........even before pakistan many arab setteled in chittagong while pakistan were rulled by dhair or something like that.......(u can see wiki)

Honestly if any place in SA had Arab then it was CTG.

 

[bongbang]

@Kinetic mass of upper middle class

 

[pagla baba]

Don't know bro, why they are trying so hard to be Arabic!!! And what is there to be proud of!!!! People often will find many reasons to be ashamed of being Arabic, WTF is this!




SrNair saab, now someone else is claiming Bangladeshis are mainly mongoloid!!

not entirely just a portion,.............i am just saying we don*t belong to indic races......and u can call it low class or high class i do not care....

 

[SrNair]

Don't know bro, why they are trying so hard to be Arabic!!! And what is there to be proud of!!!! People often will find many reasons to be ashamed of being Arabic, WTF is this!




SrNair saab, now someone else is claiming Bangladeshis are mainly mongoloid!!

Well the guys who talks like that really should go to the Middle East or West.Even Pakistanis will be mocked by Persians and Arabs for shit like that.Let alone the Bongs .


Well perhaps he was talking about Turkish Mangloid









Well you should read your own posts .Central Asians

That is creating most problems here. All the near past poor converts couldnt change their fate. You are talking about them. BD upper, upper middle and middle class looks relatively well.



Actually in this thread no one claimed as such you were proposing. We know our country and phenomenon among our people. Other nationalists are getting hyper here.

@Kinetic we have a mass of Turanid race in here.

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@Kinetic mass of upper middle class

Fate ???????What Fate????.

That is creating most problems here. All the near past poor converts couldnt change their fate. You are talking about them. BD upper, upper middle and middle class looks relatively well.



Actually in this thread no one claimed as such you were proposing. We know our country and phenomenon among our people. Other nationalists are getting hyper here.

 

[Kinetic]

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@Kinetic mass of upper middle class

Polished upper middle class from some MBA college! But still they are same only.


Leave it, I requested you to post some pics common masses... as I said leave it.


Enough f this.. I am leaving this as well.