Qatar-Turkey Rafale Deal

[Foinikas]

Daydreamer Mr.Noone jumped again into my posts to deflect the facts


I am not talking about future weapons

I am talking about TRGL-122 , TRLG-230 , TRG-300 , J600T , BORA , SOM , ATMACA , POPEYE , SLAM-ER , MAVERIC , HARPOON Block-II , JSOW , HARM , HARPY , ATACMS , KGK , SDB , MAM-T which are already in service

and enough fire power to destroy airbases , jet hangars with fighter jets and military targets in Greece and Greek Islands

even most of Greek Islands are 2-10-30 km away from Turkiye
even 40 km T-155 Howitzers can hit military targets in Islands

You're still day-dreaming yourself. You mention so many diverse and different missiles,that you would have to bring together to use them. You mention "more than 2,000 missiles",yet we're talking about different roles,sizes and quantities.

And you ignore the ability for counter-measures and counter-attack. You assume too much. Like always.

To get back on topic

The Qataris already have great relations with Greece and they would use their aircraft to get involved in an incident with a EU and NATO member country. Especially for Erdogan's sake,who might not even win the next elections.

So,the Qatari Rafale are just to train the Turkish pilots a bit. But we've both had F-16s. Did it give the edge to any of us?

keep dreaming dream is free
You think everybody will fight Turkiye for Greece ... what a dream

Nobody will fight Turkiye for useless Greece ...

-- The UK ,Spain , İtaly are working with Turkiye

-- Austria,Sweden,Norway,Portugal nothing to do with Eastern Mediterranean to fight Turkiye for useless Greece

-- Germany never fight Turkiye

maybe only France .... and we can also wipe out the French navy and air force right now,if we want it in the Eastern Mediterranean

Eastern Mediterranean is Turkiye's play zone

Mr.Salesman,please. Stop repeating yourself,you only discredit your own posts.

 

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You're still day-dreaming yourself. You mention so many diverse and different missiles,that you would have to bring together to use them. You mention "more than 2,000 missiles",yet we're talking about different roles,sizes and quantities.

even more than 2.000

and of course different roles and sizes to destroy jet hangars , air defense systems , radars , military targets and equipment

Do you think Turkiye will use only one type missile ?

 

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And you ignore the ability for counter-measures and counter-attack. You assume too much. Like always.

Greece has only around 400 air defense missiles ... nothing else

never can stop Turkish Armed Forces fire power which is the strongest in NATO after USA

Greece only buys AD missiles with limited numbers ...
on the other hand Turkiye produce missiles with huge numbers and no any problem for survive in a conflict


counter-attack ? so funny
only 90 SCALP missiles ... nothing else
and can not hit all airbases in Turkiye ... maybe only air base in Balıkesir


Air Bases in Amasya , Malatya , Diyarbakır , Adana , Ankara , Konya , Eskisehir are far away from Greece

but most of Air Bases in Greece and Greek Islands are in range of Turkish Missiles
because Greece is so tiny country which has no frontal depth for defense

 

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Mr.Salesman,please. Stop repeating yourself,you only discredit your own posts.

Mr Noone stop dreaming .. ,you only discredit your own posts

what a dream
The UK ,Spain ,İtaly ,Germany ,Austria,Sweden,Norway,Portugal will fight Turkiye for useless Greece

 

[Sinnerman108]

Sweetheart,what makes you think most of Western Europe can't survive physical contact with Turkey? Because that's the enemy we're talking about now. What makes you think Germany,France,Britain,Spain,Italy,Austria,Sweden,Norway,Portugal cannot smash Turkey. Even less than half of them can wipe out the Turkish navy and air force right now,if they want it.

A French,Italian,Spanish fleet and expeditionary force,supported by the Hellenic Navy and Hellenic Air Force,can annihilate the entire Turkish navy and wipe out all the air bases from the coast to central Anatolia.

Oh you still think it will be Turkey only ?
you naive or what ?

 

[Foinikas]

Oh you still think it will be Turkey only ?
you naive or what ?

It sure ain't gonna be Russia,believe me

 

[Abid123]

Norway

Lmao. Norways military can only defend a singe district in Oslo. This was admitted by the defence minister not long ago.

 

[Foinikas]

Greece only buys AD missiles with limited numbers ...
on the other hand Turkiye produce missiles with huge numbers and no any problem for survive in a conflict

Yeah sure,huge numbers,superpower

counter-attack ? so funny
only 90 SCALP missiles ... nothing else

We don't need to use SCALP only

Air Bases in Amasya , Malatya , Diyarbakır , Adana , Ankara , Konya , Eskisehir are far away from Greece

Exactly. So far away. We're on the defensive. In case of a war,we'll want to keep the coast and Western Turkey clear of threats,not all of Turkey.

even more than 2.000

and of course different roles and sizes to destroy jet hangars , air defense systems , radars , military targets and equipment

Do you think Turkiye will use only one type missile ?

Do you think that:
1.We can't counter them?
2.The world will stay silent if you aggressively attack us?

Turkey will suffer diplomatically and economically. There may even be an intervention on behalf of a foreign country or more. You have to understand that the world community is tired of Erdogan's behavior. Especially in the West.
They're at their limit. So be careful,because there's bigger fish...

Lmao. Norways military can only defend a singe district in Oslo. This was admitted by the defence minister not long ago.

But if they sent a few F-35s and a brigade to contribute with other forces,it would be more than sufficient.

 

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Yeah sure,huge numbers,superpower

Even Turkiye produce 400 SOM Cruise Missiles for Azerbaijan
( Turkish KTJ3200 turbojet engine entered mass production to power SOM Cruise Missile instead of French TR40 turbojet engine )

and more 415 SOM Cruise Missiles for the Turkish Air Force
even I am not talking about TRLG-230 , TRG-300 , J600T , BORA , ATMACA , KGK , SDB and many more

Greece+Egypt have no even 200 air launched Cruise Missiles
its your weak power..

 

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We don't need to use SCALP only

Greece has only 250 km SCALP-EG ( export variant ) ... nothing else
Even SCALP can not hit Air Bases in Amasya , Malatya , Diyarbakır , Adana , Ankara , Konya , Eskisehir

Exactly. So far away. We're on the defensive. In case of a war,we'll want to keep the coast and Western Turkey clear of threats,not all of Turkey.

That means Greece has no chance against Turkiye

Do you think that:
1.We can't counter them?
2.The world will stay silent if you aggressively attack us?

Greece has no enough AD missiles to counter Turkish Armed Forces fire power

USA-France backed Greece illegally attack Turkiye as like 1919-1922

-- Greece is arming Islands and violate 1923 Lausanne Peace Treaty
-- Greece is trying to increase its territorial water to 12 nm from 6 nm ... and violate 1923 Lausanne Peace Treaty
-- Greece trying to steal oil/gas reserves and 150.000 km2 area from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

 

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Turkey will suffer diplomatically and economically. There may even be an intervention on behalf of a foreign country or more. You have to understand that the world community is tired of Erdogan's behavior. Especially in the West.
They're at their limit. So be careful,because there's bigger fish...

We have seen bigger fish in 1919-1922 and 1974 ... We Turks hunted so-called bigger fishes


No fear ... We dont care about bandit USA-France who are trying to destroy Turkiye's territorial integrity

Our national security and interests more important than money

in 1974 , Turkiye did military operation to save the Turks from savage Greeks in Cyrus
American embargo on Turkiye wont work

today Turkiye has everything .. loser USA-France everywhere from Syria to Libya from Karabakh to Eastern Mediterranean

 

[Foinikas]

USA-France backed Greece illegally attack Turkiye as like 1919-1922

You signed the Treaty of Sevres,why do you complain?

That means Greece has no chance against Turkiye

Because you'll do what? Use the bases from behind and use air-to-air refuel to attack mainland Greece,if the bases in the West are destroyed? How long do you think you can keep your F-16s in the air with the sanctions? You're using more and more UAVs to fly over Greek air space. You're cornered and if you continue like this,you might get even more sanctions.

We have seen bigger fish in 1919-1922 and 1974 ... We Turks hunted so-called bigger fishes

You're stuck 100 years in the past. You keep repeating it. When you have something new to say,come back.

-- Greece is arming Islands and violate 1923 Lausanne Peace Treaty
-- Greece is trying to increase its territorial water to 12 nm from 6 nm ... and violate 1923 Lausanne Peace Treaty
-- Greece trying to steal oil/gas reserves and 150.000 km2 area from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

I have analyzed with evidence why Greece is NOT violating any Treaty.
Greece has not increased the territorial waters to 12 miles in the Aegean even though it is our right to do so,if we want.
Greece is not trying to steal oil/gas reserves from anyone,the entire world cofirms that Greece's EEZ and its rights in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean.

Unfortunately,you continue to repeat the same sentences,in a never-ending loop. If anything,what you are doing is cheap propaganda,done in a very stupid way. If not,what is the point of talking about the same things again and again and having the same discussions dozens of times?

 

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You signed the Treaty of Sevres,why do you complain?

We won a war against the UK+France+Greece+Armenia between 1919 and 1922

With the victory of the Turks as a result of the Turkish War of Independence, the Treaty of Sèvres lost its validity since the Treaty of Lausanne was signed and put into effect on July 24, 1923, instead of Serves treaty.

 

[Foinikas]

We won a war against the UK+France+Greece+Armenia between 1919 and 1922

Basically you fought against Greece and a tiny Armenian force which was trying to defend a huge area.
French forces weren't interested in keeping their zone in Cilicia,thus they fought only a bit and retreated there,as Ataturk had predicted.

Stop derailing the thread with your dreams of glory.

 

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Because you'll do what? Use the bases from behind and use air-to-air refuel to attack mainland Greece,if the bases in the West are destroyed? How long do you think you can keep your F-16s in the air with the sanctions? You're using more and more UAVs to fly over Greek air space. You're cornered and if you continue like this,you might get even more sanctions.

Greece can attack on only Air Base in Balıkesir ... nothing else

on the other hand Turkiye can attack all Air Bases in Greece and Greek Islands
thanks to Turkish Ballistic - Cruise Missile and turbojet engine technologies
also 1.000 km KARGI kamikaze Drones


even İran could keep its F-14s in the air since 1990s
( İran is under embargo and sanctions )

Turkiye stocked spare parts for F-16s ... no problem for many years

HURJET and KIZILELMA are coming to carry long range cruise missiles and air to air missiles

even F-4s and AKINCI UCAV carry SOM Cruise Missile ,,

SOM Missile range was limited by 280 km .
because of used French TR-40 turbo jet engine , with Turkish turbojet engine SOM missile have range of far more than 280 km ( 500+ km )

in 2014 , SOM Missile reached range of 800 km with modified TR-40 turbojet engine

Now Turkiye has its own technology HISAR-A , HISAR-O and SIPER Air Defense Systems to protect Turkish air space from Fighter Jets and Cruise Missiles .... GAME OVER !

keep dreaming about tiny Greece and useless sanctions