Qatar, Pakistan sign Super Mashak sale agreement

[Max]

Congrats PAC

 

[khanasifm]

Burning demand is going up skywards

 

[shah1398]

Where does exactly JF-17 fit in when JF-17 cant even Data link with these airplanes ?

We dont really know if Link-17 is not compatible with these ones as we have no detailed info in this regard. If we have established data link between Thunder and Saab-2000 then it should work fine with others (only if we have done so as i beg to accept my ignorance in this regard).

 

[Tipu7]

UAE = The UAE government is continuing to negotiate a direct commercial sale with Lockheed, but the number of fighters in discussion has increased from 25 to 30, according to a Defense Security Cooperation Agency notice to Congress posted on 24 January 2014

Oman = Eurofighter

Kuwait = Eurofighter

Qatar = Rafael

Egypt = Rafael

Saudi = Eurofighter

Where does exactly JF-17 fit in when JF-17 cant even Data link with these airplanes ?

UAE is looking to replace Alpha jet with light weight aircraft. Good possibility for Jf17.

They intend to replace M2K with Rafales.

So Super Mashak + Jf17 + Rafale

 

[jermankill]

finally some good news

 

[Irfan Baloch]

It's worth noting that both the Super Mashak and JF-17 were presented in in Qatar a few months earlier.

looks like Modi's Middle Eastern visit had an opposite effect

 

[PDF]

Operators
Iran

• Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force – 25
• Iraq

• Republic of Iraq Air Force – 20

Oman

• Royal Air Force of Oman – 8

Pakistan

• Pakistan Air Force – 149
• Pakistan Army
• Syria

• Syrian Air Force – 6

Saudi Arabia

• Royal Saudi Air Force – 20

South Africa

• Uni Group Holdings (Pvt) Ltd - 5

General characteristics

• Crew: two–three, student, instructor and optional passenger
• Length: 7.00 m (22 ft 11 1⁄2 in)
• Wingspan: 8.85 m (29 ft 1⁄2 in)
• Height: 2.60 m (8 ft 6 1⁄2 in)
• Wing area: 11.90 m² (128.1 sq ft)
• Empty weight: 646 kg (1,424 lb)
• Max. takeoff weight: 1,200 kg (2,645 lb)
• Powerplant: 1 × Textron Lycoming IO-360-AIB6 horizontally opposed 4-cylinder, 149 kW (200 hp)
• Propellers: Hartzell HC-C2YK-4F/FC7666A-2 two-blade constant-speed metal propeller, 1 per engine
• Landing gear: fixed tricycle

Performance

• Never exceed speed: 365 km/h (197 knots, 227 mph)
• Maximum speed: 238 km/h (128 knots, 148 mph) at sea level
• Cruise speed: 210 km/h (113 knots, 130 mph)
• Stall speed: 100 km/h (54 knots, 63 mph) flaps down, power off
• Endurance: 5 hr 10 min
• Service ceiling: 4,800 m (15,750 ft)
• Rate of climb: 5.2 m/s (1,024 ft/min)

Armament

• Hardpoints: 6× under-wing, maximum external load 300 kg (660 lb) total
• Possible loads:

• 2× 7.62 mm machine gun pods
• 2× 75 mm unguided rocket pod (7 rounds)
• 4× 68 mm unguided rocket pod (7 rounds)
• 6× wire-guided anti-tank missiles (ATGMs)

(Wikipedia)

MUSHSHAK
AIRCRAFT

The MFI-17 Mushshak (The Proficient) is a light-weight, robust, two/three seats, single engine, predominantly all metal aircraft with tricycle fixed landing gear. It has been developed to meet US FAR 23 certification in categories normal, utility and aerobatics. It can operate from any short un-prepared strip and is completely independent of any kind of ground equipment. Super Mushshak (The Agile) - advanced avionics is an upgraded version of Mushshak fi tted with a more powerful engine, cockpit air-conditioning, electrical instruments, and electric cum manual elevator and rudder trim.
Training Role
Mushshak meets the requirement of a modern primary training syllabus and is an ideal basic trainer. Aircraft is ideal for:

• Basic flight training
• Instrument flying
• Aerobatics, stalls and deliberate spins
• Night flying
• Navigation flying
• Formation flying

Army Co-operation Missions
Besides primary flying training, Mushshak is also suited for a wide range of army co-operation missions including:

• Forward air control
• Forward area support with droppable supply containers
• Reconnaissance
• Artillery fire observation
• Camouflage inspection
• Border patrol
• Liaison
• Target flying and target towing for training of ground units

Technical Data
Engine (Mushshak) Propeller (Mushshak)
Type: Textron Lycoming IO-360 A1B6
Power: 200 HP (at 2700 RPM at standard sea level conditions)
Cylinder: 04 A Hartzell, USA two-blade constant speed metal propeller
is installed on the engine.
Engine (Super Mushshak) Propeller (Super Mushshak)
Type: Textron Lycoming IO-540 V4A5 Super Mushshak has been qualified with both three and two
blade propellers from McCauley and Hartzell of USA respectively.
Time between Overhaul (TBO)

TBO for engine is 2000 hours.
Power: 260 HP (at 2700 RPM at ISA conditions)
Cylinder: 06

Cockpit Design Criteria
Spacious side by side cockpit giving contact between the pilot and the co-pilot / observer or between the student and the instructor for effective "watch me" instruction
Adjustable seats fitted with straps incorporating auto lock inertia reels
Typical avionics equipment configuration includes UHF/
VHF radio, GPS, VOR, Transponder, ADF etc
Third crew member can be accommodated in the rear cabin The basic design philosophy behind Mushshak offers an aircraft
with:
Flexibility, covering both army co-operation and primary flying training
Excellent forward and downward visibility supplemented by a good rearward visibility
Good ground clearance even with bulky under wing stores and high crosswind capability for operation from narrow strips and roads
Up to 300 Kg/660 lbs external load carrying capability (including pylons)
Heavy duty landing gear
Large baggage compartment in the rear part of the cabin easily accessible through a door on the port side of the fuselage.
This space can also accommodate a third crew member
Good handling characteristics
Good short/rough field performance
Full aerobatic capability, maximum limit load factor +6/-3 in Aerobatics category
Ease of maintenance and repair even in field
Structure life of 9500 hrs
Fuel System
Based on two integral fuel tanks holding a total of 47 US gallons
Bendix RSA type fuel injection system
Houses engine driven fuel pump for normal operation
Electric fuel pump for emergency conditions
Flight Control System
Efficient dual flight controls including conventional centre
stick type control columns and adjustable rudder pedals.
Primary control surfaces are operated through a direct mechanical
linkage.

Optional Equipment Wing
The following optional equipment can also be made available on request:
Blind Flying Screen: There is a provision for installation and removal of blind screen for instrument flying.
Sun Blinds: Canopy perspex as well as rear cabin perspex can be provided with adjustable sun-blind.
Third Seat: Aircraft incorporates fitting for the installation of third seat in the rear portion of the cabin.
Electric Trim: Reliable and effective elevator and rudder electrical cum manual trim can be installed easily.
Air Conditioner: One of the most effective and reliable Enviro
R-134 environmental friendly air conditioning system can be installed.
Avionics suite: Customized avionics suit or glass cockpit can be added as per customers request. Wing Area: 11.9 m2/128 sq ft
Sweep Forward: 5°
Airfoil Thickness: 10%
Dihedral: 1.5°
Horizontal Tail
Span: 2.80 m/9 ft 2 in
Area: 2.10 m2/22.6 sq ft
Sweep: 0°
Airfoil Thickness: 12%
Dihedral: 0°
Main Data Vertical Tail
Length: 7 m/23 ft (Mushahak)
7.15 m/23.5 ft (Super Mushshak)
Height: 2.60 m/8 ft 6 ½in
Span: 8.85 m/29 ft
Wheel Track: 2.2 m/7 ft 2 ½ in
Wheel base : 1.58 m/5 ft 2 ½ in Height: 1.32 m/4 ft 4 in
Area: 1.52 m2/16.3 sq ft
Airfoil Thickness: 12%
Sweep, Leading Edge: 36°
Sweep, Trailing Edge: 8°

Users
The users of Mushshak and Super Mushshak are:

• Pak Army

• Pakistan Air Force

• Iran

• RSAF

• Syria

• Oman

• Norway

• Sweden

• Denmark

• South Africa

(Official Page)

• Norway

• Sweden

• Denmark

Any details about it.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Good. I would be more happy if they purchased JF-17 but a step in the right direction. I hope after the dual seater JF-17B more deals will be signed.

Indians are giving bribes or threatening countries that have shown interest in JF-17. they have a dedicated force to spread propaganda and misinformation against the jet. which gives me an Idea..
if Pakistan can secretly plan with another country and declare that a sale is decided.. Indians come rushing in bribing the so called buyer with dollars and the the buyer announces that it is cancelling the deal. Indians mock us on PDF and then we secretly share the money with the buyer and move to the next buyer and repeat the process

 

[war&peace]

Indians are giving bribes or threatening countries that have shown interest in JF-17. they have a dedicated force to spread propaganda and misinformation against the jet. which gives me an Idea..
if Pakistan can secretly plan with another country and declare that a sale is decided.. Indians come rushing in bribing the so called buyer with dollars and the the buyer announces that it is cancelling the deal. Indians mock us on PDF and then we secretly share the money with the buyer and move to the next buyer and repeat the process

Really a mean and a disgusting behavior but I won't expect anything otherwise. In that sense it is a great deal and I can foresee JF-17 flying in the Arab skies soon. I think dual seater JF-17B may help remove some stumbling blocks.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Any details about it.

It is SAAB SAFARI...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Safari

 

[SQ8]

Where does exactly JF-17 fit in when JF-17 cant even Data link with these airplanes ?

How do we know it cannot?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

It goes as yet another true testament (of many) to the high quality of PAF/PAC products and its professional excellence.

Have just learned from reliable sources that Qatar today signed a deal in Doha for the purchase of Ten PAC Super Mashak trainers.

news media hasnt confirmed the number but if it's ten, it's a great start for our military partnership with GCC states like Qatar (the Saudis are already having these in operation for quite some time)

 

[Bratva]

How do we know it cannot?

Because if it can, Data-link would have been the one of the main talking point in selling JF-17 to morroco, to egypt to saudia to qatar. But wherever ever marketing team went, What was reminded to potential customers? Cheap affordable, 1/3 price of F-16 so on and so forth

 

[SQ8]

Because if it can, Data-link would have been the one of the main talking point in selling JF-17 to morroco, to egypt to saudia to qatar. But wherever ever marketing team went, What was reminded to potential customers? Cheap affordable, 1/3 price of F-16 so on and so forth

Considering I had some input into that marketing plan; I feel insulted that you would think that is what I recommend.

 

[Bratva]

UAE is looking to replace Alpha jet with light weight aircraft. Good possibility for Jf17.

They intend to replace M2K with Rafales.

So Super Mashak + Jf17 + Rafale

They are thinking same as saudia or egypt thought about buying JF-17 once upon a time . As soon as budget cuts are announced in UAE, Apha jet replacement plane will be the first to go down the drain

Considering I had some input into that marketing plan; I feel insulted that you would think that is what I recommend.

Irrespective of what was your suggestions, do you see PAF promoting LINK-17 with JF ?