Putin thanks India for its stand on Ukraine

[Manvantaratruti]

Don't need one, just interested in facts. I don't think the US cares about India's feeble support of Russia's position on Crimea.

LOL. I think US cares very much about how it is perceived globally and globally Indians stands carries enough weight. Especially these days when people are doubting the value of the dollar.

If US choose to take a public stand against Russian action they also have to make sure the world agrees with them. Else it would only make them look like sore losers.

India's stand only looks 'feeble' for public consumption, as it is designed to do. For all nations and policy makers the message it sends out is India is siding with Russia and NOT the US. Most people who matter know how to read between the lines.

 

[shree835]

Indians are changing because of Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade arrested in US to show some love on Russia, they suddenly became anti-West due to this sensitive incident.

This is total Bakwas ... For India Russia is far more trustworthy and dependable in any case then USA....Any way I love this statement... "“We are grateful to all those who understood our actions in Crimea,” Mr. Putin said. “We are grateful to the people of China. We highly appreciate India’s restraint and objectivity.”"

India supporting Crimea's right of self determination while not respecting same right for people of Kashmir even though there is UN Resolution on it. Height of Hypocrisy

You can put an example on Baluchistan , Waziristan, Sindhudesh, FATA...etc....free them...then talk.

 

[shree835]

India has no choice they did the same thing back in 1971

Nope ...we have just responded back Pakistani attack in back 1971.

 

[Not Sure]

India as a nation should have rather stood firmly with Russia than take a neutral stand on the issue. A pro-West Ukraine will always keep Russia's territorial integrity in serious jeopardy, and without Crimea on its side, Russia would be forced to spend a huge amount of its income for defence purposes every year.

Anyone who understands what lies in Crimea vis a vis Russia would know how parallel the situation is to India's position in 1971 - the very year when Russia proved its commitment to India.

 

[Manvantaratruti]

India as a nation should have rather stood firmly with Russia than take a neutral stand on the issue. A pro-West Ukraine will always keep Russia's territorial integrity in serious jeopardy, and without Crimea on its side, Russia would be forced to spend a huge amount of its income for defence purposes every year.

Anyone who understands what lies in Crimea vis a vis Russia would know how parallel the situation is to India's position in 1971 - the very year when Russia proved its commitment to India.

India as a nation should stand firmly with India......... and so far it has managed to do that.

 

[Not Sure]

India as a nation should stand firmly with India......... and so far it has managed to do that.

No, it has not.

Had the nation of India stood for India, there would be no such thing as Kashmir dispute. There wouldn't be such a delay in getting out of the nuclear embargo, that it couldn't be resolved before 21st century. Had the nation of India stood for India and taken firm stands on international matters, it would already be a member of the UNSC to veto any foreign aggression on its territory.

Just because there still exists a staggering entity called India does not mean it has stood firmly for itself. And the latest example we see is Iran-US-India relations. A lot of investment has already taken place there and yet we cannot import as much fuel from there as we want to.

With a population of over a billion, India can always afford to take a firm stand in its foreign policy, but well...

If you want an example of a nation that despite its small size and under-representation has stood firmly since its inception, then look at Israel.

By the way, if Russia falls, or is even weakened, it would be terrible for India as well. Taking a firm stand there would have been for India's own benefit. Not saying that the neutral stand is going to hurt India, because Russia has asserted its claim and nothing is going to change that.

 

[dbc]

LOL. I think US cares very much about how it is perceived globally and globally Indians stands carries enough weight. Especially these days when people are doubting the value of the dollar.

If US choose to take a public stand against Russian action they also have to make sure the world agrees with them. Else it would only make them look like sore losers.

India's stand only looks 'feeble' for public consumption, as it is designed to do. For all nations and policy makers the message it sends out is India is siding with Russia and NOT the US. Most people who matter know how to read between the lines.

Indian stand carries weight? Across the globe with the exception of Putin desperate for support not a single flip was given about India's position on the Crimea affair. The statement feeble and ambiguous as it was came from its National Security Adviser and not from the Indian PM or FM or anyone important - why? plausible deniability? When pressed India can then throw the NSA guy under the bus for speaking out of turn? Convenient?

The statement says "internal issues" and "legitimate Russian and other interests". That's India trying hard to stay on the fence while performing an awkward,uncomfortable yogic contortion. Here is news for you the US and other important players all agree Russia has legitimate interest in Crimea and Ukraine. India didn't really go out on a limb for Putin or India tried very hard not to that's typically what everyone expects of India. Putin's statement thanking India and China for their "understanding" is his fig leaf because the guy knows he is isolated. For the US, the questions many were posing about NATO's relevance in the post cold war era has suddenly evaporated. NATO is now open for business with new vigor and likely increased participation and commitment from member states. Cause the decrepit old bear is back and looking mighty dangerous or so Congress and other decision making institutions in the free world will be told. Thank you Mr Putin.

“As far as we are concerned, we are watching what is happening in the Ukraine with some concern. We would hope that whatever internal issues there are within Ukraine are settled peacefully and that the broader issues of reconciling the various interests involved, and there are after all legitimate Russian and other interests involved, are discussed, negotiated, and that there is a satisfactory resolution to them. But more than that at this stage when everything is still fluid, I do not think we can tell you.”

 

[Saifullah Sani]

Nope ...we have just responded back Pakistani attack in back 1971.

like Russia

 

[Arya Desa]

India supporting Crimea's right of self determination while not respecting same right for people of Kashmir even though there is UN Resolution on it. Height of Hypocrisy

A country that doesn't recognize Israel yet is the islamic version of it. Height of Hypocrisy

 

[SpArK]

Putin just called Manmohan Singh..

And might have hanged up because of the silence thinking connection error.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

now I scratch your back...

 

[Manvantaratruti]

Indian stand carries weight? Across the globe with the exception of Putin desperate for support not a single flip was given about India's position on the Crimea affair. The statement feeble and ambiguous as it was came from its National Security Adviser and not from the Indian PM or FM or anyone important - why? plausible deniability? When pressed India can then throw the NSA guy under the bus for speaking out of turn? Convenient?

LOL. India does not operate like the US. The NSA guy is not a figurehead. He is the guy who forms the foreign policy. In India it is the politicians who are the figurehead .....the kind that can be thrown under the bus.

The NSA 'guy' is the 'head' of a powerful set of bureaucrats who form the IFS, the real policy makers in India. (of which Deviyanai is also a part of). These are career bureaucrats....politicians come and go, these are the people who stay on forever, who build India's foreign policy and guide it. The politicians only rubber stamp it.

The statement says "internal issues" and "legitimate Russian and other interests". That's India trying hard to stay on the fence while performing an awkward,uncomfortable yogic contortion. Here is news for you the US and other important players all agree Russia has legitimate interest in Crimea and Ukraine. India didn't really go out on a limb for Putin or India tried very hard not to that's typically what everyone expects of India. Putin's statement thanking India and China for their "understanding" is his fig leaf because the guy knows he is isolated. For the US, the questions many were posing about NATO's relevance in the post cold war era has suddenly evaporated. NATO is now open for business with new vigor and likely increased participation and commitment from member states. Cause the decrepit old bear is back and looking mighty dangerous or so Congress and other decision making institutions in the free world will be told. Thank you Mr Putin.

Of course India is staying on the fence. That has been our policy for the last 60 odd years. Ever heard about the Non Aligned Movement ?

India NEVER goes out on a limb for anyone. It is everybody's friend and nobody's enemy. With China building up to be the new power and Russia China axis gaining strength, NATO IS a cold war relic.

Russia was NOT asking for anyone's support. It went out and did what was required to be done. It was the US who was seeking support. So who was denied support ?

If US wants to have influence over the other side of the world, it needs to have allies on the other side of the world. Not in Europe. (Now don't bring in Japan, SK and AUs)

 

[Manvantaratruti]

No, it has not.

Had the nation of India stood for India, there would be no such thing as Kashmir dispute. There wouldn't be such a delay in getting out of the nuclear embargo, that it couldn't be resolved before 21st century. Had the nation of India stood for India and taken firm stands on international matters, it would already be a member of the UNSC to veto any foreign aggression on its territory.

Just because there still exists a staggering entity called India does not mean it has stood firmly for itself. And the latest example we see is Iran-US-India relations. A lot of investment has already taken place there and yet we cannot import as much fuel from there as we want to.

With a population of over a billion, India can always afford to take a firm stand in its foreign policy, but well...

If you want an example of a nation that despite its small size and under-representation has stood firmly since its inception, then look at Israel.

By the way, if Russia falls, or is even weakened, it would be terrible for India as well. Taking a firm stand there would have been for India's own benefit. Not saying that the neutral stand is going to hurt India, because Russia has asserted its claim and nothing is going to change that.

There is a "kashmir dispute" because during our formative years, India foolishly took that to the UN. A mistake we have NEVER ever repeated.

The 'dispute' is as much relevant as china's annexation of Tibet. ...... which is to say, not relevant at all.

You cannot 'veto' foreign aggression ...seriously ? ........... being member of USNC will have no relevance on the real ground. We just want to be in for prestige, not for any practical reason.

The Nuclear embargo helped India develop a Nuclear AND a Thermo Nuclear Bomb and a very credible ICBM .......AND a very independent foreign policy ....... ya, we can all see how damaging that was.

About Iran, we traded oil for Nuclear energy and Uranium. Not a bad deal. However Iran continues to be the second largest supplier of Oil to India. Not bad, won't you say ? We are now building an underwater pipeline from Iran to India.

Israel exist as a slave to the US, something India is not. So there is not comparison there either, is there ?

Lastly Russia does not need our support, it is strong enough to do what it wants to do. What it wants is for India to not stand with the US. Its a win win...and that is how India plays the game.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

To be precise, he is thanking us for not taking a stand on Ukraine. Like towards any other international conflict that doesn't affect us, our policy is to have no policy at all.

If Ukraine had somehow managed to prevent Russia from taking Crimea, Ukraine would have been thanking us for the very same ''stand''.

India did state that Russia has legitimate interests in Ukraine. We couldn't have been more clear than that considering our relations with the West. Putin understands that.

 

[janon]

India did state that Russia has legitimate interests in Ukraine. We couldn't have been more clear than that considering our relations with the West. Putin understands that.

To be precise, he said there are ''Russian and other'' interests involved, and that we hope everything will be resolved soon. It's the diplomats' way of saying ''You guys figure things out among yourselves, we want to have nothing to do with it.''