Promoting anti-science via textbooks - by PERVEZ HOODBHOY

[malik_qasim]

We live in a age where reality and appearances are usually opposite to each other! [/QUOTE]

well done
so now we are trading insults
you disappoint me sir

Listen troll form across Radcliffe line, I have read the good book in it's entirety, it is not a book of science nor does it contradict science, it is a book about spiritual nourishment, values, legislation and signs ie the heaven and earth were ONE before the were split asunder, no you will not find Einstein equation for expanding universe, but rather signs of the glories of God's creation........Have never ever read flat earth in Koran, I suspect you are using false info provided by right-wing evangelical sources


Yes he is a hideous little brat, the sooner he is banned the better for a conducive discussion.Kudos

o come you can do better then that
i will not stick top your level
but you prove your own point wrong
by telling that quran is a book of signs
then please keep it in the mosques and keep it out of the science books

 

[The Sandman]

We need to study on our own.

Exactly

 

[malik_qasim]

Stop Misquoting the Quran.

sir i am not miscourting
i am telling you, that what you will find at these references..
might break your heart but will eave your eyes open

 

[Moonlight]

then please keep it in the mosques and keep it out of the science books

Dude seriously? Don't pretend to be a fake liberal here. This country is freed in name of Islam. And people like you completely want to disassociate it with Islam.

There are multiple scientific miracles disscused in Quran. Go grab a copy of Quran and study it before posting here.

 

[marbella]

hahaha you really are impossible
thousand of Pakistani graduates from MIT???
dude there are only 6 Pakistanis in the MIT
and you say you have been there?
like the MIT?? not MUGHOWAL INSTITUTE OF TECNOLOGY
and you are still barging about theory of evolution??
well that says a lot about you then


well i am not telling you a religious story my friend
it is a scientific theory that hold the answers..
just like gravity is a theory..!! you cant deny that rite

6 under graduates and 20-30 graduates per year. so total number by all these years may exceed 1000.

 

[war&peace]

Some people are stating irrelevant Ayah(s) from Quran. Please have some knowledge before you say something related to Quran.
Yes religion should be separated from schooling systems.
But Quran itself promote Sceince. The problem is with our representatives of Islam (Mullahs). They have not even studied Quran properly and impose it on people. Here I blame us the Muslims too. Why do we have to blindly believe them whatever they say we buy. We need to study on our own.
Islam doesn't hate the idea of science. Quran rather appreciate and promote it.

These things are well known. Anyone who knows the history and / or Quran can easily see that when Muslims were following Quran, they were progressive and leading the world in science and it is trivial and well-known fact so I don't need to backup my claims with some sources.
We should ask ourselves, how much time do we allocate ourselves for reading and comprehension of Quran?, and how many scholars of Quran we listen too?

 

[Khafee]

sir i am not miscourting
i am telling you, that what you will find at these references..
might break your heart but will eave your eyes open

When you provided the Ayah numbers I rechecked. You were wrong and were misquoting.

Do not comment on things you are clueless about, especially the Quran.

 

[Moonlight]

These things are well known. Anyone who knows the history and / or Quran can easily see that when Muslims were following Quran, they were progressive and leading the world in science and it is trivial and well-known fact so I don't need to backup my claims with some sources.
We should ask ourselves, how much time do we allocate ourselves for reading and comprehension of Quran?, and how many scholars of Quran we listen too?

This is the problem this Umah is facing today. We think liberalism and religion are two different things. If they study Quran and will get to know Islam is more liberal than the liberalism they support.
We have created a distance with Quran and we are left behind

 

[django]

We live in a age where reality and appearances are usually opposite to each other!

OH shut up you hideous little troll.

 

[Hyde]

Religious discussion is not allowed in this forum unless its got something to do with social affairs of Pakistan

If you want to discuss Quran vs Anything. Please go elsewhere

 

[Mythal]

post number 60

I am going to put a very simple example here...

Africans are black... its postulated because of heat and sun they are exposed to... Europeans are white......they don't need extra melanin in skin to protect from sun...

fine ... arabs are white... they live in deserts harsher than sahara.... ok ... I will theorize ... they migrated to desert from Europe or some other cold place... fine

than why after 12000 years of documented history, they are still white???? why have they not changed with their environment??

Africans living in America and Europe for more than 500 years .. well they are still black....

this is different races of same species...and we don't see them changing over 10 -15 thousand years of documented/ partially documented or discovered history..... and we believe than one species can change into another completely different and un-related species?


but picture is still even more complicated... evolution does occur .. human adopt.. u start hitting the gym regularly for 2 months ... u start building muscles.... if you are persistent enough you may even pass healthy trends to your off springs.... humans have evolved over centuries and mellinia.. so have other living forms ... but still racial structure from earliest documented history holds true today....
where are species evolving into other?????

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/promoting-anti-science-via-textbooks-by-pervez-hoodbhoy.464606/page-4#ixzz4RnyRB9Wu

your hypothesis does not agree with facts.

 

[marbella]

Is Hoodbhoy an Aghakhani?

 

[Khafee]

Dude seriously? Don't pretend to be a fake liberal here. This country is freed in name of Islam. And people like you completely want to disassociate it with Islam.

There are multiple scientific miracles disscused in Quran. Go grab a copy of Quran and study it before posting here.

Some TT's who have already ranted anti-Pakistan BS on this thread, will not agree with you.

 

[war&peace]

6 under graduates and 20-30 graduates per year. so total number by all these years may exceed 1000.

The number of graduates vary...and furthermore, he was liar and I think there are more Pakistanis studying at MIT

When you provided the Ayah numbers I rechecked. You were wrong and were misquoting.

Do not comment on things you are clueless about, especially the Quran.

Sir @Khafee he was not doing that out of mistake or ignorance. That was a deliberate attempt , he is a senior member, he created this account as he aware of the reaction to his inflammatory remarks will get him banned and he has been banned. There are groups of people in this world and on this forum who deliberately distort and malign Islam, that's their agenda..and they are well aware that they are lying but they do because they have satanic job to do. Read all his posts and you will see the progression. Thanks for taking care of him

 

[Khafee]

The number of graduates vary...In 2013, I m

Sir @Khafee he was not doing that out of mistake or ignorance. That was a deliberate attempt , he is a senior member, he created this account as he aware of the reaction to his inflammatory remarks will get him banned and he has been banned. There are groups of people in this world and on this forum who deliberately distort and malign Islam, that's their agenda..and they are well aware that they are lying but they do because they have satanic job to do. Read all his posts and you will see the progression. Thanks for taking care of him

PM /email me his original name.