Projectile supposedly fired from Iran lands in Pakistan

[Windjammer]

Two of the worlds most powerful intel agencies CIA+Mossad with backup of the entire Western world will of course be able to carry out attacks in our country. Are you simple?

Control as in, in Iran no armed group dares to roam around the streets as is the case with Pakistan. Sure, CIA&Mossad spies will be able to do some sabotage operations but presence of armed terrorists or non-state armed men is absent in Iran (except te border areas with Pakistan).

That is what user @zartosht meant with full state control. And you ought to learn something from Iran in this regards. I mean with full US backing you are still facing security issues caused by a 10th rate nation like India. Imagine India was US+Israel on steroids. Your country would cease to exist. Just be realistic. Nothing else is asked.

Well let me ask you, are you that dense that while pointing out India for most of our troubles, yet unable to comprehend that no terrorist activities take place in areas where our border is common with India.
Why all incidents take place in areas adjacent to Afghanistan and Iran.
Where was Indian spy arrested from.
And let me remind you, the so called Islamic Bomb was a big thorn pricking USA, Israel, India and few others long before Iran even got mentioned yet we never ever lost a single scientist, so easy with your claim of who managed to exist.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

And you ought to learn something from Iran in this regards

Yes we need to learn from iran just because we want our scientists be killed in our own land by enemies,yes we need to learn from iran just because we want our nuclear installations being hit by our enemies without declaring war,UAVs being flown from our own country and blow up our entire UAV base.

And one thing more, India is not able to infiltrate from our border areas directly despite its huge military power and economy.These entire terrorist brigades operate from the lands of our brotherly ummah nations.

 

[Dariush the Great]

Well let me ask you, are you that dense that while pointing out India for most of our troubles, yet unable to comprehend that no terrorist activities take place in areas where our border is common with India.
Why all incidents take place in areas adjacent to Afghanistan and Iran.
Where was Indian spy arrested from.
And let me remind you, the so called Islamic Bomb was a big thorn pricking USA, Israel, India and few others long before Iran even got mentioned yet we never ever lost a single scientist, so easy with your claim of who managed to exist.

Why on earth would India commit such activities on its border with Pakistan? Would that not be too obvious? Of course they will use other countries in their region. So before calling others ''dense'' look at your own comprehension skills.

They allowed Pakistan to get nuclear weapons because

a) Pakistan is simply no threat to the US or Israel.
b) Pakistan was and is not engaged in anti-Western activities both political and militarily.
c) Pakistan is under the firm Western political and financial control.

Why would they bother with you anyway? You are no threat to them. You just have one enemy and that is India, it is beneficial for the West if you bash each others heads in and create instability in the neighborhood of China.

Again, this was not the main point of our discussion. It was about non-state armed groups being active inside Pakistan and this issue need to be dealt with by your government. The sooner, the better.

Yes we need to learn from iran just because we want our scientists be killed in our own land by enemies,yes we need to learn from iran just because we want our nuclear installations being hit by our enemies without declaring war,UAVs being flown from our own country and blow up our entire UAV base.

And one thing more, India is not able to infiltrate from our border areas directly despite its huge military power and economy.These entire terrorist brigades operate from the lands of our brotherly ummah nations.

If you bothered to read my entire post and not cherry pick one sentence to express whatever grudge you have against Iran you would have understood what was being talked about.

Iran and Israel are in a shadow war so of course there will be attacks. With Israel having better capabilities due its partnership with the US such attacks are totally expected. Again, has nothing to do with armed terrorists being present on Pakistan's territory and large areas being outside of government control. We are discussing two different things now.

And Iran's nuclear program is a major threat to Israel and the West. So there will be obvious sabotage operations carried out by the enemy. Until this date there has been no open attack by the US or Israel on Iran and that is sufficient for now. Everything else that is happening is part of the game.

 

[Windjammer]

Why on earth would India commit such activities on its border with Pakistan? Would that not be too obvious? Of course they will use other countries in their region. So before calling others ''dense'' look at your own comprehension skills.

They allowed Pakistan to get nuclear weapons because

a) Pakistan is simply no threat to the US or Israel.
b) Pakistan was and is not engaged in anti-Western activities both political and militarily.
c) Pakistan is under the firm Western political and financial control.

Why would they bother with you anyway? You are no threat to them. You just have one enemy and that is India, it is beneficial for the West if you bash each others heads in and create instability in the neighborhood of China.

Again, this was not the main point of our discussion. It was about non-state armed groups being active inside Pakistan and this issue need to be dealt with by your government. The sooner, the better.

Yes India will use other countries to do its dirty laundry, thanks for admitting that.
And those countries being Pakistan's neighbours namely Afghanistan and Iran
Yet here you are putting the impression that its all due to armed rebels inside Pakistan. The reality is these terrorists can cross over into both countries and take shelter until their next mission.
And its obvious that either both countries turn a blind eye to terrorists activities or they are unable to control who comes and goes into their territory.

 

[Dariush the Great]

Yes India will use other countries to do its dirty laundry, thanks for admitting that.
And those countries being Pakistan's neighbours namely Afghanistan and Iran
Yet here you are putting the impression that its all due to armed rebels inside Pakistan. The reality is these terrorists can cross over into both countries and take shelter until their next mission.
And its obvious that either both countries turn a blind eye to terrorists activities or they are unable to control who comes and goes into their territory.

The border areas near Pakistan/Afghanistan is neglected by our side, that is true. But that does not mean we have a sinister, coordinated plan with India to launch one projectile every few months towards Pakistan. The initiative must come from the Pakistani government, deploy full army troops and air force on those unstable areas, why is this not being done?

 

[Falcon34]

Two of the worlds most powerful intel agencies CIA+Mossad with backup of the entire Western world will of course be able to carry out attacks in our country. Are you simple?

Control as in, in Iran no armed group dares to roam around the streets as is the case with Pakistan. Sure, CIA&Mossad spies will be able to do some sabotage operations but presence of armed terrorists or non-state armed men is absent in Iran (except te border areas with Pakistan).

That is what user @zartosht meant with full state control. And you ought to learn something from Iran in this regards. I mean with full US backing you are still facing security issues caused by a 10th rate nation like India. Imagine India was US+Israel on steroids. Your country would cease to exist. Just be realistic. Nothing else is asked.

o boi. We made nukes when the entire world was aganist us and none of our scienctists were ever killed and as far as terrorists roaming around is because of cunts like u and afghanis. Just wait for ur turn as u sow so shall u reap. No body killed our general, we bought down two indian jets for killing one crow of ours what the hell did u do for solemani.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Again, has nothing to do with armed terrorists being present on Pakistan's territory and large areas being outside of government control

Which area is not under govt. control in Pakistan? Tell me a single area.
These terrorists are mercilessly killed everyday.They are dying.The major evidence is this rocket fire.They are having no place here so firing rockets from inside Iran.
Why they are now firing rockets from inside Iranian territory when they have never fired rockets before? Because they know they will be killed if they will come to Pakistan.
Now only Iranian and IEA territory is safe heaven for them.

And Iran's nuclear program is a major threat to Israel and the West

No its not.
They just want to keep your nation bussy by creating war like situation.And you are bussy.
The fact is that your regime unnecessarily made them your enemies.
You are open enemies of zionists still what damage you have done to zionism? You only respond them when they attack you first.

The initiative must come from the Pakistani government, deploy full army troops and air force on those unstable areas, why is this not being done?

We fenced nearly 90% border and deployed FC alsnly Iranian and IEA territory is safe heaven for them now.And you have nearly accepted this

 

[Dariush the Great]

o boi. We made nukes when the entire world was aganist us and none of our scienctists were ever killed and as far as terrorists roaming around is because of cunts like u and afghanis. Just wait for ur turn as u sow so shall u reap. No body killed our general, we bought down two indian jets for killing one crow of ours what the hell did u do for solemani.

When did you make nukes? What was the political landscape of that era? What were the dynamics? World against Pakistan? LOL why would CIA go on a sabotage campaign against Pakistan? Especially after you helped the Americans to defeat the godless Soviets. Pretty convenient.

List here the sanctions that were put on you. Let us compare the severity of sanctions placed on Iran and Pakistan.

 

[HammerHead081]

o boi. We made nukes when the entire world was aganist us and none of our scienctists were ever killed and as far as terrorists roaming around is because of cunts like u and afghanis. Just wait for ur turn as u sow so shall u reap. No body killed our general, we bought down two indian jets for killing one crow of ours what the hell did u do for solemani.

Don't you know they took great revenge by asking Irani women in the US to stab their white partners after sex?

When did you make nukes? What was the political landscape of that era? What were the dynamics? World against Pakistan? LOL why would CIA go on a sabotage campaign against Pakistan? Especially after you helped the Americans to defeat the godless Soviets. Pretty convenient.

List here the sanctions that were put on you. Let us compare the severity of sanctions placed on Iran and Pakistan.

You should read up on how Israel planned to strike Kahuta with the help of Indians but decided to not go ahead. Dont even bother comparing how you are Israel's biatch and that only because you guys cannot keep yourself from meddling in the affairs of other countries. Be it Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan or Pakistan - you have your dirty hands everywhere.

 

[Falcon34]

o boi. We made nukes when the entire world was aganist us and none of our scienctists were ever killed and as far as terrorists roaming around is because of cunts like u and afghanis. Just wait for ur turn as u sow so shall u reap. No body killed our general, we bought down two indian jets for killing one crow of ours what the hell did u do for solemani.

Don't you know they took great revenge by asking Irani women in the US to stab their white partners after sex?

My mistake they have taken there glorious revenge. damn!!

When did you make nukes? What was the political landscape of that era? What were the dynamics? World against Pakistan? LOL why would CIA go on a sabotage campaign against Pakistan? Especially after you helped the Americans to defeat the godless Soviets. Pretty convenient.

List here the sanctions that were put on you. Let us compare the severity of sanctions placed on Iran and Pakistan.

 

[Dariush the Great]

Don't you know they took great revenge by asking Irani women in the US to stab their white partners after sex?


You should read up on how Israel planned to strike Kahuta with the help of Indians but decided to not go ahead. Dont even bother comparing how you are Israel's biatch and that only because you guys cannot keep yourself from meddling in the affairs of other countries. Be it Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan or Pakistan - you have your dirty hands everywhere.

I see sensational twitter news has taken over your emotions when discussing politics.

Yes, sure. Israel planned to strike Pakistan, latter being a full blown US ally. I don't think any other nation in the world is so pathetic to be India's ''biatch' and having its (claimed) territory occupied. I mean, it takes for a nation to sink so low to lose territory against a 10th rate ''nation'' like India.
Hilarious.

My mistake they have taken there glorious revenge. damn!!

We will take our revenge after you free your women from Indian soldier's hands.

 

[khail007]

Two of the worlds most powerful intel agencies CIA+Mossad with backup of the entire Western world will of course be able to carry out attacks in our country. Are you simple?

Pakistan facing more intelligence agencies threats than Iran. Even you don't have any of embassies/consulates of mentioned countries in Iran.

Control as in, in Iran no armed group dares to roam around the streets as is the case with Pakistan. Sure, CIA&Mossad spies will be able to do some sabotage operations but presence of armed terrorists or non-state armed men is absent in Iran (except te border areas with Pakistan).

Control, what control you are talking about? Terrorism is indeed a menace and sabotage operations are also, any activity on your land will deny you the claim of control. Sabotage is that you are bitten by the enemies who are within from you and that is not called the control, do you?
Just check the following table not the border areas:

That is what user @zartosht meant with full state control. And you ought to learn something from Iran in this regards. I mean with full US backing you are still facing security issues caused by a 10th rate nation like India. Imagine India was US+Israel on steroids. Your country would cease to exist. Just be realistic. Nothing else is asked.

None of the countries in the world could claim a 'full state control' that is a false assumption, it could be more or could be less but not full. Even the countries that own the intelligence agencies with state-of-the-art surveillance equipment at their disposal could not claim full control.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

takes for a nation to sink so low to lose territory against a 10th rate ''nation'' like India.

You voted against kashmiris in OIC to delight the same 10th rate nation
You allowed the same 10th rate nation to use your territory against Pakistan.


Your regime plays in the hands of same 10th rate nation.

 

[Dariush the Great]

Pakistan facing more intelligence agencies threats than Iran. Even you don't have any of embassies/consulates of mentioned countries in Iran.

Please, tell me who are your enemies? Your main enemy is just India.

Control, what control you are talking about? Terrorism is indeed a menace and sabotage operations are also, any activity on your land will deny you the claim of control. Sabotage is that you are bitten by the enemies who are within from you and that is not called the control, do you?
Just check the following table not the border areas:

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Thanks for confirming what i said. These are obvious sabotage/assassination operations and will for sure succeed or fail according to the list you posted. Now what has this to do with large areas of Pakistan being outside of government control? Armed men on pickup trucks controlling areas instead of the central government? Because that is the main point of our discussion.

None of the countries in the world could claim a 'full state control' that is a false assumption, it could be more or could be less but not full. Even the countries that own the intelligence agencies with state-of-the-art surveillance equipment at their disposal could not claim full control.

You are confused. We are not counting sabotage/assassination operations by hostile powers as ''control''. We are talking about presence of armed men in direct challenge to the Pakistani central authority.

Because assassinations or sabotage operations are pretty easy, just like what India is doing to Pakistan nowadays. But we are not counting that as ''control''.

You voted against kashmiris in OIC to delight the same 10th rate nation
You allowed the same 10th rate nation to use your territory against Pakistan.


Your regime plays in the hands of same 10th rate nation.

You think you have a grudge against Iran? Iran has a grudge too. Like allowing yourselves to be toyed around by the Saudis. The presence of terrorists in Pakistani areas on the Iran border attacking our border guards etc

 

[khail007]

Thanks for confirming what i said. These are obvious sabotage/assassination operations and will for sure succeed or fail according to the list you posted. Now what has this to do with large areas of Pakistan being outside of government control? Armed men on pickup trucks controlling areas instead of the central government? Because that is the main point of our discussion.

So you pointed to 'large areas', indeed there are large areas with a very scarce population with mountains and dunes and no proper roads, these areas exist on both sides of Pak/Iran border you could claim that may be there is some nominal difference of '%age of control' as you already admitted for 'less control' in your border area.
If other than such areas you are aware of, please enlighten us.

You are confused. We are not counting sabotage/assassination operations by hostile powers as ''control''. We are talking about presence of armed men in direct challenge to the Pakistani central authority.

If you think that I am confused, so are you. There are no armed men in a direct challenge to the Pakistani authority. The incidents are on borders and only hit and run tactics to be in media by such terrorists/saboteurs/assassins to please their handlers. World witness that when those scums surrounded, how our forces cleaned those filthy rats.
May this help you to overcome your confusion of 'control'.