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rival,enemy same thing more or less...I said tiny Greece is not our rival , Our rival is France
Oh? Is that why US officials repeat that Greece is an important NATO ally and friendly country,every time Turkish reporters ask the State Department questions?NATO doesnt care about useless Greece
Turkiye is also NATO Member and Turkiye is more important than Greece in NATO
Buddy you're the one who's been dreaming. Both Democrat and Republican senators have declared already,that they will NOT allow Biden to sell F-16s to Turkey. They will not. The Greek,Armenian,Kurdish and other lobbies,smashed Oz's campaign. You're done.keep dreaming dream is free
officially nothing is blocked .. sooner or later F-16V or Eurofighter will join the Turkish Air Force
rival,enemy same thing more or less...
Oh? Is that why US officials repeat that Greece is an important NATO ally and friendly country,every time Turkish reporters ask the State Department questions?
Buddy you're the one who's been dreaming. Both Democrat and Republican senators have declared already,that they will NOT allow Biden to sell F-16s to Turkey. They will not. The Greek,Armenian,Kurdish and other lobbies,smashed Oz's campaign. You're done.
As for your "game changers",they're still not operation. They are still projects. Prototypes. Soo.....wake up. You've been dreaming for a long time.
"Our rival is France,our rival is France"....and all the maps show the range compared to Greece. All the map that you posted,except one. S-400? Yunanistan. Tayfun? Yunanistan.There are many enemies including tiny Greece and tiny Armenia
but our rival is France in Syria,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean
without American-French protection your Greece is an ant in front of regional power Turkiye
Sure buddy,sure. Big talk. No F-16Vs for you,no Eurofighters. Every nonsense your government tells you,you believe it just like that. In order to get F-16s,the Congress has to approve. The Senate does not approve it. Menendez and enough Democrat and Republican senators are against it. What will you buy then? Eurofighter? You'll have to get approval from Germany,Italy and Spain. Even if you do get approval,you'll have to wait until the British make some for you. Unless you buy used ones.Now 236 F-16 , SIPER and S400 AD Systems are enough to turn your Hellenic Air Force into crap of metal
also 40 new F-16V or Eurofighter on agenda
8 Rafale....4 F-16V....much better than what you have alreadywake up and stop dreaming with your weak-tiny Greece
even now only 7 Rafales and 4 F-16V ..... 84 F-16V until 2028
USA uses puppets Greece , FETO , PKK/YPG against Turkiye
nothing else ...
Some ants bite pretty darn hard you knowhout American-French protection your Greece is an ant in front of regional power Turkiye
"Our rival is France,our rival is France"....and all the maps show the range compared to Greece. All the map that you posted,except one. S-400? Yunanistan. Tayfun? Yunanistan.
"Our rival France our rival France...tiny Greece no match,we don't even think of it"
8 Rafale....4 F-16V....much better than what you have already
You keep mentioning that,even though I have repeatedly told you that Greece does not want a war with Turkey. We do not want war. We only defend our territory.Greece is dreaming to fight Turkiye as a puppet as like PKK/YPG
Now even USA can not save PKK/YPG from the Turkish Armed Forces
wait your turn
Don't fool yourself! Despite Akar's big talk,the S-400s are still not operational and using them would only mean more sanctions and embargo from USA and other NATO countries.We have SIPER and S400 to turn Rafale and F-16V into crap of metal
24 Rafale can not change anything
Half of that stuff you mentioned are still PROJECTS. You know what that means? NOT IN ACTIVE SERVICE.and Greece only buys ,
Turkiye develops SOM , ATMACA , KARGI , BORA , TAYFUN , HISAR , SIPER , AKINCI , KIZILELMA , TISU , HURJET and TFX
Our rivals are big boys France , Russia , not little boy Greece
You keep mentioning that,even though I have repeatedly told you that Greece does not want a war with Turkey. We do not want war. We only defend our territory.
Don't fool yourself! Despite Akar's big talk,the S-400s are still not operational and using them would only mean more sanctions and embargo from USA and other NATO countries.
As for the Siper....untested yet and brand new.
Half of that stuff you mentioned are still PROJECTS. You know what that means? NOT IN ACTIVE SERVICE.
Not even finished.
Rafale has a pretty darn good EW suite.
Oh really? Then why don't you portray the missiles' range on the maps,as compared to Russia? Are you afraid of Russia maybe? Afraid of Iran? Only good at bombing Kurds and bullying "tiny,weak" countries? Ne oldu? E? Ne?
By your repeated mention of the term "Seville Map" you show your ignorance.Trash Seville Map is not your territory
So? What does it have to do with what I said?Backward Greece can not develop even Anti-Tank Missile
2-3 years nothing for thousands of human history? Please,stop smoking what you're smoking.2-3 years nothing for thousands of human history
good luck to enemies .. they will need it
@Akritas has replied to you in depth about your so-called CCIP Modernization. As for your RF decoy and "only two countries in the world",all theory and shit.even Turkish Air Force CCIP Modernized F-16s have pretty darn good EW suite.called Aselsan SPEWS-II
and Havelsan RF decoy which is only 2 Countries in the world
Based on Turkish foreign policy the last 10 years,it's ridiculously naive to assume Turkey will not betray Russia as soon as you get the chance.Russia and Turkiye are friends now
not Russia , but Greece is hidding behind USA-France and barking day and night
if you call me puppet one more time,I'll report you for repeated attempts to flame me with provocative comments.know your place weak tiny puppet Greece
Repeating the same phrases in an endless loop,will get you nowhere.and Turkiye gave a lesson to İran , SAA , Hezbolah in Idlib
even FSA kicked İran , SAA , Hezbolah combined and İran asked helping from Russia in 2015
@Sardar330 @mohsen @Hack-Hook @SalarHaqq @Dariush the Great @Muhammed45 @aryobarzan @Mehdipersian @raptor22 @Shapur Zol Aktaf @OldTwilight @SOHEIL @Stryker1982 @yavar @QWECXZIran doesnt have power for conventional war.. outdated Airforce , Army and Navy
Iran only can use militia groups in İraq, Lebonan,Yemen , nothing else
S400 is garbage, unless you use it as ballistic missilesTürkiye says S-400 defense system ready to use if threatened
'The S-400 is in place and ready for use,' says Defense Minister AKAR as he notes that Türkiye can use the Russian-made defense system 'if any threats arise'
36 Launcher with 192 missiles including 250 km 48N6E3 and 380 km 40N6E
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Türkiye says S-400 defense system ready to use if threatened
'The S-400 is in place and ready for use,' says Defense Minister Akar as he notes that Türkiye can use the Russian-made defense system 'if...www.dailysabah.com
I want Kela David leYavanS400 is garbage, unless you use it as ballistic missiles
He lives in another universe...lolBy your repeated mention of the term "Seville Map" you show your ignorance.
This map only reflects Europe's EEZ according to international law. According to the Law of the Sea.
It is futile to repeat the same phrases in an attempt to brain-wash people,when you have no real arguements.
So? What does it have to do with what I said?
You keep mentioning your projects as if they are already in active service and tested succesfully in real battle.
That is not the case however.
2-3 years nothing for thousands of human history? Please,stop smoking what you're smoking.
@Akritas has replied to you in depth about your so-called CCIP Modernization. As for your RF decoy and "only two countries in the world",all theory and shit.
Based on Turkish foreign policy the last 10 years,it's ridiculously naive to assume Turkey will not betray Russia as soon as you get the chance.
Let's see: You are friends with the Russians. You backstab them and shoot down a Russian Su-24. You become friends with the Russians again and buy S-400s. You are kicked from the F-35 program and get sanctions on your F-16s and Phantoms by the Americans. You try to meet Biden and ask for F-16Vs. You get rejected. You go back to Putin. You get rejected. You go back to the Americans,they refuse to give you F-16Vs. The war in Ukraine starts. You give TB2 and other stuff to the Ukrainians,but invite the Russian oligarchs to come to Turkey. You shout that you are important to NATO,but you diplomatically defend Putin. You close the deal with Zelensky for a TB2 factory in Ukraine,but you want to supply gas from Russia to Europe.
I'd say Erdogan's Turkey is the most unreliable ally to anyone. Except the Azeris of course.
if you call me puppet one more time,I'll report you for repeated attempts to flame me with provocative comments.
Learn YOUR place on the forum and behave.
Repeating the same phrases in an endless loop,will get you nowhere.
@Sardar330 @mohsen @Hack-Hook @SalarHaqq @Dariush the Great @Muhammed45 @aryobarzan @Mehdipersian @raptor22 @Shapur Zol Aktaf @OldTwilight @SOHEIL @Stryker1982 @yavar @QWECXZ
He thinks Iran is Kurds they can bomb easily or Artsakh with the tiny army and outdated air defence.He lives in another universe...lol
And Turkey gave up F35 for S400. so F35 is even more garbage.S400 is garbage, unless you use it as ballistic missiles