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From your last line, it is my opinion that you are fighting a losing battle, because raters are humans, and think highly of a post that eloquently supports their own viewpoint, and would give a positive to such posts. Also, negatives are handed more easily when a poster insults the rater's cherished beliefs or country or institutions, than when an insult is made against something the rater does not care for. So Pakistanis would give negatives to a statement that called the Pak army ''eunuchs'', but will just skim through it if such an epithet is used against the IA. I gave an example previously, and frankly there are several examples in most multipage threads. It is a basic human trait called confirmation bias, and only people who assiduously guard against it can escape it - most people who have the power to give ratings do not have the ability to train themselves against cognitive biases. Unless you give the rating power only to such people, my contention that your innovation is bound to remain biased stands.
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@Manticore : You can see this confirmation/cognitive bias visible on the useless thread asking "what do Indians think about Nepalis?" I have been given a negative rating by pakistanisage, and the only forum rule I can think of having broken is being off topic. But then almost everything there is off topic, since the topic is not worth discussing. Desert fighter made an equal number of off topic posts, but only I got the negative. Being Pakistani, the rater only thought it fit to give a negative to my post.

BTW Pakistanisage also called me a moron when he negged me, and I believe name calling is against forum rules. I have been infracted by webby for the same offence once.

You said that the idea behind this rating system was to encourage people to post with quality. It may work in that manner, if it is used properly. But when we see obvious bias and unobjectivity in handing out negatives, it has the opposite effect - in our minds, it cheapens the rating system, and we end up not caring about these negatives. That explains why people who get a few negatives very soon go on to get several more, whereas people who haven't opened their account take some time.

For example, if the rater who just negged me had also negged the Pakistanis and warned us to stay on topic, I would have been careful about it in future. But seeing that only I got a negative, my reaction is to be rebellious, not to mention losing any respect I may have had for that particular rater, and the rating system itself.

Disclaimer : I am only taking time to explain how I feel so that you might be able to improve the system, and rethink who should have the power to rate. I do not care for this particular rating, as I have no respect whatsoever for the person who gave it, and also because I know that either three of us deserved it or none. Like @notsuperstitious explained earlier, when a habitual troll neggs me and calls me a troll, what do you think I would feel about the system?
 
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You guys are taking these negative ratings too seriously. In my case all five of my negative ratings are from one particular admin and the funny part is that after rating my post negatively he deletes it so that I don't have the option of complaining about it. :lol:
 
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You guys are taking these negative ratings too seriously. In my case all five of my negative ratings are from one particular admin and the funny part is that after rating my post negatively he deletes it so that I don't have the option of complaining about it. :lol:

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha thats true. The same dude has done it to me many times.

This is a fucking joke.
 
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@Manticore : You can see this confirmation/cognitive bias visible on the useless thread asking "what do Indians think about Nepalis?" I have been given a negative rating by pakistanisage, and the only forum rule I can think of having broken is being off topic. But then almost everything there is off topic, since the topic is not worth discussing. Desert fighter made an equal number of off topic posts, but only I got the negative. Being Pakistani, the rater only thought it fit to give a negative to my post.

BTW Pakistanisage also called me a moron when he negged me, and I believe name calling is against forum rules. I have been infracted by webby for the same offence once.

You said that the idea behind this rating system was to encourage people to post with quality. It may work in that manner, if it is used properly. But when we see obvious bias and unobjectivity in handing out negatives, it has the opposite effect - in our minds, it cheapens the rating system, and we end up not caring about these negatives. That explains why people who get a few negatives very soon go on to get several more, whereas people who haven't opened their account take some time.

For example, if the rater who just negged me had also negged the Pakistanis and warned us to stay on topic, I would have been careful about it in future. But seeing that only I got a negative, my reaction is to be rebellious, not to mention losing any respect I may have had for that particular rater, and the rating system itself.

Disclaimer : I am only taking time to explain how I feel so that you might be able to improve the system, and rethink who should have the power to rate. I do not care for this particular rating, as I have no respect whatsoever for the person who gave it, and also because I know that either three of us deserved it or none. Like @notsuperstitious explained earlier, when a habitual troll neggs me and calls me a troll, what do you think I would feel about the system?
You guys are taking these negative ratings too seriously. In my case all five of my negative ratings are from one particular admin and the funny part is that after rating my post negatively he deletes it so that I don't have the option of complaining about it. :lol:
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha thats true. The same dude has done it to me many times.

This is a fucking joke.
No surprise in that. :lol::lol:

The person who gave me negative rating himself trolls in most of the threads. so, i stopped taking this system seriously. its been misused like anything.
just because a person does not have similar opinion as yours you can't give anyone a negative rating.

Check posts #139 to #142

Wrong Post Ratings | Page 10
 
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The person who gave me negative rating himself trolls in most of the threads. so, i stopped taking this system seriously. its been misused like anything.
just because a person does not have similar opinion as yours you can't give anyone a negative rating.

Check posts #139 to #142

Wrong Post Ratings | Page 10

Thats the thing, known trolls like the one you mentioned and like the one mentioned by @janon are giving negative ratings to stuff they don't like but they keep trolling all over the forum themselves.

The very fact that dramaqueen has NIL negative ratings is proof that this system is designed to reward and empower pakistani trolls.
 
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You guys are taking these negative ratings too seriously. In my case all five of my negative ratings are from one particular admin and the funny part is that after rating my post negatively he deletes it so that I don't have the option of complaining about it. :lol:
Actually so were my first two ratings, deleted even before I knew they were negged. So I don't even know who negged them, and I had to guess which posts they must have been, since I knew those posts were anti-Pakistan.
 
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha thats true. The same dude has done it to me many times.

This is a fucking joke.
Actually so were my first two ratings, deleted even before I knew they were negged. So I don't even know who negged them, and I had to guess which posts they must have been, since I knew those posts were anti-Pakistan.

In my case, I knew who did it because most of them also followed with simultaneous thread bans (another way of hiding the negative rating). So I would go back and check the thread without logging in and find that one or a few of my posts have been deleted and my negative rating has increased while none of my existing posts have it. So it is pretty easy to guess the person behind this. This is so juvenile I actually find it quite amusing, as if I give a remote **** about negative ratings on an anonymous forum where serial trolls like pakistanisage has the right to rate people. :lol:
 
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This is what @Aeronaut posted on ISI:DEVILS OWN
I just received this message from the Directorate of Public Relations of ISI.

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AND I COPIED THE SAME AND POSTED IN HIS THREAD ABOUT FC FINDING WEAPONS NEAR AFGAN PAKISTAN BORDER AND HE BLAMING INDIA.ONLY THING I CHANGED WAS ISI TO RAW.
I just received this message from the Directorate of Public Relations of RAW.

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and i get a ban for trolling from the thread,
:D :D :D :D
TO @mods @WebMaster
 
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This is what @Aeronaut posted on ISI:DEVILS OWN


AND I COPIED THE SAME AND POSTED IN HIS THREAD ABOUT FC FINDING WEAPONS NEAR AFGAN PAKISTAN BORDER AND HE BLAMING INDIA.ONLY THING I CHANGED WAS ISI TO RAW.

and i get a ban for trolling from the thread,
:D :D :D :D
TO @mods @WebMaster
Try GHQ
 
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