Poor construction led to The latest in Indian Submarine to be detected by Pakistan

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

This incompetent and corrupt nation has rightfully earned Lanatullah for their wickedness.

Everything they touch will fail. It will be time soon for the lions to take down this decrepit elephant.

 

[Microsoft]

Please don't divert from the topic. I am strictly talking about the lie which was earlier peddled to show JF 17s capability which has now been exposed by one of your own.

And no, this clearly shows that the Chinese made JF 17 is nowhere near the American made F-16 in terms of capability.

If we're talking about topic it's submarines not airplanes. But if you want to talk about airplanes where was the mighty Tejas? JF-17 flew in the face of SU-30s came out unscathed same can't be said for the SU-30 or Mig-21.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Useless dildo. Gangus can shove it u know where.
God I hate Indians they just won't stop man.
If I were India I would never want to relive that nightmare. They act like a scorned slut who was rejected by her lover.

 

[Cookie Monster]

How are the Chinese handling the information, now that the Pakistanis are themselves accepting that it was an F 16 that downed Abhinandan's Mig 21 and JF 17 didnt do jack ?

Do u have some official source like ISPR confirming this? Or are u basing it off of hearsay on PDF.

No Su-30 even got a scratch on that skirmish. you have provided zilch proof for it and now your own ex-commodore has declared in public that they are not sure if a Su-30 was hit.

That's bcuz unlike ur air force PAF is professional and would only OFFICIALLY claim something if there was SOLID PROOF. They don't wanna release some flimsy BS of a blip disappearing off the radar and make tall claims. They officially claimed Mig 21 being downed and showed wreckage of it.

You only managed to down a vintage Mig 21 that too only because the pilot mistakenly entered your airspace.

So I guess Indians don't have a problem with PAF downing Mig21s of IAF since they are vintage. Any other airforce/nation would feel shame/embarrassment if their jet was downed whether vintage or not...but u guys clearly don't seem to mind.

Tejas is under construction.

Yes it's been decades...everyone knows by now that it's been under construction.

And no JF-17s did not fly in the face of Su 30s. In fact by most accounts, Pak planes didnt even cross the LoC and even if they did, only very briefly before they ran back. Fact.

So this too doesn't seem to bother Indians...I guess PAF can carry out as many attacks as it pleases on India as long as they don't enter Indian airspace...and u guys can proudly somehow turn that into some victory speech(as u r doing here) that "PAF aircraft didn't enter Indian airspace - FACT"

U wanna know facts...the fact is PAF carried out attacks on Indian soil...announced it before hand...and when IAF responded ur aircraft was promptly shot down and ur pilot captured. IAF didn't dare to strike back after that and only shot down its own helicopter - FACT.

 

[Dubious]

People stick to the topic....which is Submarine


or shall I sink your airplanes?

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Honestly quit embarrassing yourself

Do you really think if it as the other way around and a Pakistani f7 went down and a Paf pilot was captured do you think anyone would care if was a mig mirage or sukhoi

Iaf has been humiliated so much that it needed any silver lining from dodging AMRAAMS to jf 17 f16 blah blah

go to any aviation forum or or air force forum Indians are being raked over the coals for there autism and Indians have the majority support over Pakistan before this

as far the jf17 is concerned it had orders before balakot and

Do u have some official source like ISPR confirming this? Or are u basing it off of hearsay on PDF.

That's bcuz unlike ur air force PAF is professional and would only OFFICIALLY claim something if there was SOLID PROOF. They don't wanna release some flimsy BS of a blip disappearing off the radar and make tall claims. They officially claimed Mig 21 being downed and showed wreckage of it.

So I guess Indians don't have a problem with PAF downing Mig21s of IAF since they are vintage. Any other airforce/nation would feel shame/embarrassment if their jet was downed whether vintage or not...but u guys clearly don't seem to mind.

Yes it's been decades...everyone knows by now that it's been under construction.

So this too doesn't seem to bother Indians...I guess PAF can carry out as many attacks as it pleases on India as long as they don't enter Indian airspace...and u guys can proudly somehow turn that into some victory speech(as u r doing here) that "PAF aircraft didn't enter Indian airspace - FACT"

U wanna know facts...the fact is PAF carried out attacks on Indian soil...announced it before hand...and when IAF responded ur aircraft was promptly shot down and ur pilot captured. IAF didn't dare to strike back after that and only shot down its own helicopter - FACT.

Indians underestimated it so much like it was no threat the fact we put it on the front line hen push came to shove is enough to justify it existence

Chinese dont need to do propaganda for its a Pakistani plane[

Listen to @Dubious , stick to the topic.

 

[Dubious]

Listen to @Dubious , stick to the topic.

The rule is for everyone.
Everyone. ...

I haven't gone through the thread as its sleeping time but please keep it clean

 

[Type59]

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2019/06/navy-finds-defects-in-scorpene.html?m=1

Indian military blog covering issue. The OP article states the submarines are AIP equiped. Nope they will have system installed at later date.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

French don't manufacture a poorly constructed equipment---and that too a submarine---a scorpene class at that---.

The Scorpene sub should be the pride of the fleet---and it is not the french who have the problem with the sub---it is the Indian operators who have problem operating the sub---.

The Indians are trying to hide their incompetence in operating the sub---.

Indians are also trying to put down the Pakistani operators which detected this sub---.

 

[Vortex]

Should have sunk when we had the opportunity.

Imagine several jets downed, submarine sunk.... oh my God !

One of the most expensive election campaign !

Modi ney buljana tha hawa kidder sey nikalny hey !!!

 

[PAR 5]

Wrong assessment! It was not the poor French built Submarine but it was the poorly trained Indian Captain of that Submarine that led to its unceremonious detection.

 

[Shane]

I don't know why our Indian friends are fuming at the original article.

The project is marred by delays and controversies ranging from poor quality of local work force that is unable to meet project deadlines, to resulting cost over runs, to project mismanagement and usual red tape, to international design leaks, to continuous delays due to a combination of above factors that highlight what else but gross incompetence at various stages and levels of the project.

The Sina.cn article only highlights this usual cycle that repeats across defence projects of Indian Army, Air Force and Navy that have become synonymous with everything make in India, even in projects that are basically a little more than reassembly of Knocked Down Kits.

The first of the six Scorpene (French for Scorpion), INS Kalvari, was commissioned into operational service by Modi in December 2017, a few good years late as usual. The last of these submarines would be delivered after 2020-21, after a delay of more than half a decade.

Time overruns are accompanied by cost overruns. The original Rs 18,798 crore cost of six Scorpenes has now gone up to Rs 23,562 crore.

The contract in 2005 required all six Scorpenes to be delivered by 2015. Navy sources say even 2021 is an optimistic target now.

 

[newb3e]

Should have sunk when we had the opportunity.

Imagine several jets downed, submarine sunk.... oh my God !

One of the most election campaign !

Modi ney buljana tha hawa kidder sey nikalny hey !!!

hinsa,atank hojata ya toh mitrun vote na daytay!

 

[B.K.N]

mitrun vote na daytay!

What it means?

 

[ziaulislam]

So from JF 17 did it to pick any jet of your choice ? I get it. You own ex Air Commodore has confirmed that it was an F 16 which shot down the MiG 21. A blow to those in China hoping to use this propoganda for JF 17 sales. JF 17 didnt do jack.

Same article also mentions that jf17 used REK to carry out strikes..now either both his claims are correct or both false

If jf17 did carried out those strikes than thats worse news as compared to shooting mig21s..as its bigger claim to do precision strikes than downing 5 decades old jet that were shot down by 1970s PAF