4, 5 mulkon ko wohi samaan becho. Paise poorey.
One thing I don't understand. Why PakMil is not interested in any JVs other than JF17. Especially when Turks have good products on offer. And seem to want to partner with other nations. Like they partnered with Indonesia for light tank and Ukraine for Cargo-Transport Jets. On the other hand we are still buying even something as little as Dhskas from Taiwan and calling it our own POF miracle.
JVs are a great way to get our defence industry off the ground. Trust me if Pakistan breaks into Tech, Aviation, Defence and maybe Auto idustry too(I believe Metro is making an economic microcar; why not export it to Africa, Central Asia and Far East markets?). We'll make big bucks.
"4, 5 mulkon ko wohi samaan becho. Paise poorey."
Problem is, per unit cost is still going to be high, we either need a product better than the competition to make it worth the money or we need a product that is as good or more cost effective while offering satisfactory performance. The issue is, both cost money lol
"One thing I don't understand. Why PakMil is not interested in any JVs other than JF17. Especially when Turks have good products on offer. "
IMO they are, however, only on bigger/more strategic, longer term items. Let me explain:
Lets look at the pattern of Pak Mil JV's:
JF-17- a long term, high number of units, benefit of experience which can be reused to further domestic industry, a strategically important move, lessens dependance on sanction happy suppliers.
Agosta- Enabled KSEW to have the capability to work on the kind of high pressure steel subs need, enables them to also produce as many as they pleased(there was a pak navy SSK requirement of 18 boats at once!), paved the way for Hangor Class production. Once again, a strategically beneficial investment, would be unlikely to integrate nuclear SLCMs on an off the shelf product.
Milgem/Jinnah- Paves the way for the PN to operate a standardized modern surface combatant. One of the most advanced types in the region. Long term project, reliable as we do it ourself, paves the way for further ship types etc.
I don't want to continue that list since it will get long and frankly, i'm lazy, however, i will further evaluate a specific part of it. The Jinnah Class.
The most important part is we own the IP rights. This i assume also means we own the IP rights to alot of the components, tech, systems onboard the platform. This is important because it means pak can recycle these systems, cutting out the R&D phase, dramatically lowering cost by using proven, designed and working systems etc and applying them elsewhere. However, the issue with exports is one of financing, very few nations have the money upfront to bankroll massive purchases, this is problematic for someone like pak who cant provide a loan.
What i will say is there is a gap, MENA, Africa etc all like smaller, cheap to operate things. In the context of naval stuff, the 056 has been hugely successful. There is literally nothing stopping KSEW from grabbing a Azmat hull, enlarging it, packing it with OTS sensors, offering an export oriented AShM or even a c802 package alongside them and actually being successful in terms of gaining export traction. JVs can be iffy, however a great example of a JV done right is the Jinnah class project. This is the way forward for them, we should then take what we get from these, repackage it, resell it. This is how China has been doing things and this is the kinda model we need to follow, though, China did it without permission etc. However, there is nothing at the end of the day stopping us from even exporting smaller things, heck, even empty hulls like Germany does to Israel, or even smaller systems like AShMs or whatever.
