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tired of his speeches now. he belongs to the same category of previous looters of pakistan.
What looting has Imran Khan engaged in while Prime Minister?

What business empire has he built while Prime Minister?

What properties and factories has he and/or his children and spouse acquired while Prime Minister?

Any expensive Penthouses and Palaces in London and France?

Any massive new Raiwind estates with gold lion statues and what not, or Bilawal House fortresses in Karachi and Lahore?

If you're going to criticize someone, have the decency at least to be factually correct about it.

The one thing you can't accuse Imran Khan of is being corrupt.

This puddle of America now telling China I am with you after putting CPEC in cold storage and ditching China for more than 2 years , to save his power and to gain power he bows at mazars at American door in China, s feet , and initially he was saying there is mass looting and betrayal in CPEC and he was to re negotiate it , moron munafiq , liar ,
CPEC needed to be renegotiated and restructured.

The continuing investment in coal power plants was damaging to Pakistan long term - he has correctly refocused on renewable energy, hydropower specifically, and infrastructure projects in the Western part of CPEC as well as more downstream non-infrastructure investments in various industries.
 
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Weay ha tu doob marny ka muqaam but kya krain!!
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Now if Imran Khan turns out to be the same as Musharraf (who was disposed 2 years after ground breaking), PPP haramkhors (who sent 5 years and at least three events on site were held) or the chro tabar of Nawaz, PMLN (who again in 5 years used this for at least two news events) and NOTHING is done on ground and it is all hogwash, thankfully, his supporters like myself will question him for it. Wont shamelessly say THANK YOU IMRAN when in 40 years someone comes to a ground breaking ceremony again.

It's quite funny actually. You see a different inauguration plaque every few kilometres as you approach Chilas. The locals joke about how every few years a helicopter lands, they install a new plaque, celebrate, and then leave.
 
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and what benefit a common pakistani has got under his rule??? none. rather the lives of pakistanis have gone even more miserable then before. all his talks are now proving to be just empty slogans. so far not a single department has shown any postive change . health , education, security situation, wapda, railway, PIA, agriculture, police etc are going down the drain as they were before. inflation has increased manifold. he is not even in control of his own team who are doing corruption at the same pace. Peshawar BRT speaks volumes of the competence of IK and that of his team. i am not a supporter of NS and zardari but IK has failed miserably as well. we are seeing a surge in the terrorist activities across the country and we will see more due to his stupid ideology of having dialogue with every gangster and thug.
it is just like we have placed a stone made idol in PM chair and we are happy that atleast he is not doing corruption like his predecessors.
You can criticize the lack of progress in various areas, but you have no reason to call him corrupt.

With respect to many of the tough decisions he has had to make - they were necessary. This country has been running on loans and spending more money than it makes for decades. At some point the bill had to be paid and if this was a normal household, it would be on the streets homeless because the banks would have possessed your cars, houses, bank accounts and all other property to recover their loans.
 
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You can criticize the lack of progress in various areas, but you have no reason to call him corrupt.

With respect to many of the tough decisions he has had to make - they were necessary. This country has been running on loans and spending more money than it makes for decades. At some point the bill had to be paid and if this was a normal household, it would be on the streets homeless because the banks would have possessed your cars, houses, bank accounts and all other property to recover their loans.
yes. he is not corrupt but he is useless.
 
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yes. he is not corrupt but he is useless.
Then don't call him corrupt.

With respect to your comment about 'being useless' - He's handled the COVID-19 crisis really well. He's done well with social relief programs, especially those targeting the poor. He dealt with Pakistan's balance of payments crisis really well and he has made some extremely tough and unpopular decisions on the economy that no one else has been able to take in the last 10 years. He's been excellent on foreign policy and given our foreign office a 'spine'.

In any case, I'll wait for the end of his government's term in office to make a final judgment, but based on the direction so far, I believe he's earned another term in office, hopefully with a larger majority.
 
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the whole opposition calls IK as selected PM and he gives them every chance to call him so by taking army chief and DG ISI every where along with him giving the whole world an impressio that he is underconfident and has no trust in his civilian team mates. few days back somebody shared an old interview of IK and it was laughable
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pti-imran-khans-political-desk.120958/page-293
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It he didn't engage in these frequent displays of the government and military leadership being on the same page, then the rumor mill would be running wild speculating that the 'government was about to fall'.

Speculation like that leads to instability which is far more dangerous than comments about 'selected'.
 
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Sir how do a stance changes without changing a objectioned fault ? How come a project was against national interests but suddenly it becomes a national priority it only happens when someone feels that he is loosing his grip on power, Let me say our establishment diid a blunder to please Anglo American establishments they brought in their darling in power they thought they can lure both i.e China and America but things are not as , China have now very defined guidelines see they signed a comprehensive strategic agreement with Iran but not with us ! its to tell us some things and the rest of the world, 2025 is the year where Yankees are going to be cornered tightly and we need to make policies accordingly and Imran Khan never had any nor can have any trust from the Chinese deep state and establishment they have many times pointed out foreign element's especially the American elements in his cabinet and even they didn't allow them to sit in some sensitive meetings , this stent of IK is not going to impress China , Pak establishment needs to lay off this black mole and liability from their face as quickly as possible otherwise China have many many options and you can't survive in the region being as puddle of America and west , the future of Taiwan will tell you many things after 2025 or even prior to that ,
Dear Sir,

Your concerns are duly noted and appreciated but this world is much bigger and complex than any single country including China. In my view, Pakistan needs to establish beneficial bilateral relationships with a number of countries in the long term in order to make sure that WE have OPTIONS just in case - a new twist or turn materialize in the international stage.

WE should not be envy of China-Iran dealings because China-Pakistan dealings have been on a solid footing for many years; WE are getting CPEC; WE are also receiving support in the nuclear program spectrum; WE are also receiving support in defense applications (JF-17 Thunder; Ballistic Missiles; Warships; Main Battle Tanks; Artillery; Radar systems; SAM systems; vice versa).

Please take a look at the situation of North Korea. It has China and Russia on its side but not much else. This should not be our future.

Western hemisphere will not diminish anytime soon; it never has. It would be a grave miscalculation to rule out significance of this bloc in its entirety. WE do not have to make questionable deals with them, but WE have much at stake by cutting them off in full for the sake of appeasing one country in the long-term. Even in the present, Pakistani economy is functioning due to IMF bailout program and this was inevitable. WE are in a debt trap type of situation because WE - as a nation - did not produce many sound leaders over the course of years. WE are a CONFUSED bunch lacking in foresight.

The world is sliding into another chapter of Cold War but Pakistan needs to chart its own course now. WE must strive to become a superpower actually and not be subservient to another.

Cold War is a cruel game in which two superpowers play PING PONG with each other with the added caveat that it is the lesser countries who are pitted against one another only to be RUINED in the process.

Previous Cold War brought much death, destruction and misery to the Islamic bloc at large. Pakistan also paid a heavy price in all aspects; our culture eroded; our economy became dysfunctional; corruption became widespread; terrorism eventually came. Reason? Because Pakistani Public could not make up their minds about what they desired for the country at large; communism (Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto; PPP) OR authoritarian (Chief of Army Staff) OR democracy (current). However, now much of the country seems to be FINE with democracy (PTI-led government is THIRD democratic government in a succession) - this is actually GOOD for the country. Pakistani Public have a SAY in the affairs of the country. This is an achievement in itself.

WE did receive some benefits for siding with USA such as being allowed to become a nuclear power, received F-16s which proved invaluable to PAF in the battlefields; TRADE (US remains largest EXPORT destination of Pakistani goods to this day); IMF bailout packages; Education and ICT reforms. However, US-PAK relationship has turned into the one of mutual resentment by now. WE did not get Kashmir by the way - no country helped us in this objective.

In spite of all of the above; JF-17 Thunder has Russian engine in it. This could not be possible without the nod and goodwill of Russians. But Russia-Pakistan bilateral relationship is not blossoming anytime soon because of what happened in the past. Russia continue to EVOLVE and remain a significant player in global affairs regardless.

My point? DO NOT LOOSE HOPE.

WE are in a good position in the present - WE are on excellent terms with China and WE have delivered in the War On Terror regime as well.

Pakistan needs to consolidate on its gains, and move forward with a plan. Continue to work with China but keep your doors open to other potential power players in the mix. WE cannot tell with certainty what will happen in the near-future, let alone in the distant future.

WATCH and OBSERVE global developments and become a PLAYER in the great game.
 
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The way I see officials from different offices for one purpose, it is..
Pakistan Zindabad.... :pakistan:

Civilian Leadership announces for the betterment of people & military establishment is there to send a message to the foes that opposed every single development especially tried to make sure that such strategically valued developments to be sabotaged. Civil + Strategic Forces victory.

It is great but what COAS and ISI head to do with this? IK should be accompanied by some civilian high rank official.

They were accompanying him in a manner to send a message. The relevant office cross the border & anywhere else, read & understood it well. In simple words; failing the designs of enemy to sabotage any development of dam in both categories; Civilian + Military.
 
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The way I see officials from different offices for one purpose, it is..
Pakistan Zindabad.... :pakistan:

Civilian Leadership announces for the betterment of people & military establishment is there to send a message to the foes that opposed every single development especially tried to make sure that such strategically valued developments to be sabotaged. Civil + Strategic Forces victory.



They were accompanying him in a manner to send a message. The relevant office cross the border & anywhere else, read & understood it well. In simple words; failing the designs of enemy to sabotage any development of dam in both categories; Civilian + Military.

Nobody would like to sabotage dam project.
 
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and what benefit a common pakistani has got under his rule??? none. rather the lives of pakistanis have gone even more miserable then before. all his talks are now proving to be just empty slogans. so far not a single department has shown any postive change . health , education, security situation, wapda, railway, PIA, agriculture, police etc are going down the drain as they were before. inflation has increased manifold. he is not even in control of his own team who are doing corruption at the same pace. Peshawar BRT speaks volumes of the competence of IK and that of his team. i am not a supporter of NS and zardari but IK has failed miserably as well. we are seeing a surge in the terrorist activities across the country and we will see more due to his stupid ideology of having dialogue with every gangster and thug.
it is just like we have placed a stone made idol in PM chair and we are happy that atleast he is not doing corruption like his predecessors.
dengue season is coming up. what he and his team has done to control dengue this year? nothing. and once it will emerge phir ya TV pay chawlain martay phirain gay. what they did to control locust? nothing.

In PMLn own words "jo economy hum ney iss (IK) kay liye chori hey, 3-saal tau iss ki kamar hi sidhi naheen ho gee" (these words were exactly narrated by anchor person Imran Khan few days ago)
 
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STICK TO TOPIC PEOPLE OF GET BANNED. An absurd claim was made that started it all, that claim have been rejected with proof. If you have anything to contributed to the topic please do or otherwise, no need to post. Consider this final soft warning.


@Village life you made some interesting and valid points, unfortunately, one look at the thread title should have been enough to tell you that this is NOT THE PLACE to make them. Can you please tag me in CPEC thread or any other political thread where you want to discuss these things, criticize PTI and talk about their short comings and suggest what should have been done instead. Will love to talk more on this with you.
 
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