Easy to check, ordinary muslims follow the local imam, the local imams all over Pakistan come from Madarsahs, so just look up top 10 madarashs for say deobandis by volume of pass out and you have:As for scholars thar represent more of Pakistan, who would that be? Mulla diesal or mulla Pan de siri?
1. Karachi Darul Uloom: Muftis Taqi and Rafi Usmani
2. Karachi Jamia Binoria: Dont know the latest muhtamim after the recent death of the last.
3. Karachi Jamia Rasheedia: Mufti Abu lubaba
4. Lahore Jamia Ashrafia: One of the mufti brothers managing it. Very unpolitcal, few know their names
5. Don't forget the Tableeghis in this category though they are daees and not muftis mostly so they will try to stay clear here.
For Hanafi Barelvis, being an outsider I dont know the names but Maulan Tahir-ul Hadri, Ilyas Qadri, Mufit Muhammad Akmal seem to be the famous ones.
As for Ahle-Hadees and Shia, the approach would be similar find the ones that educate the local imams.
Point being these are the religous leaders that do their job with their heads down as opposed to the two flamboyant personalities you refer to, the first is outright corrupt as far as I am concerned and regarding the second I would hesitate to form an opinion as his ideals are lofty but his approach not wise to put it mildly.
Then finally you have the what I can only describe as the niche muslims, the elite only have the privilege to go down this route and therefore to me their opinion doesnt matter in the bigger scheme of what Pakistan does, these would be followers of the Ghamdis, Muhammad Sheikh etc. This category is recognizable by its positions on fiqh/ islamic law that would be unrecognizable in most traditionally muslim countries. Over the years it has seemed to me their followers want to be good muslims but find it too hard to follow traditional islam (e.g. giving up 2.5% of their bank balance is too hard for them, leaving music is too hard for them, accepting their sister in law does hijab from them is too hard for them etc so they seek out preacher who can give them 'Diet Islam').
Did you listen to the whole video or just that particular portion? You can provide a rebuttal if you like, i will be more than happy if your logic is sound.
As far as I can gather he is arguing that once you chose to be a nation state, then the same islamic laws are not applicable, first-up to what extent that is true is debated. Secondly if we even agree to that point for arguments sake, then why do you believe him when he says that all Nation states should follow the same standard? There can be flavors ofcourse, he seems to say if in USA this can happen then it should be allowed in Pakistan since both are nation states, I dont see why we should agree to that.
What words have i mixed up? Not sure if you read the thread from start but there are alot of people that have the problem even with the first one.
Sorry, was reading two threads on the topic simultaneously, I have modified by original reply to you posting the agreement the Prophet PBUH did.
Ok good to know we have a more aligned (not same) view on this.As for the 2nd problem that you mentioned, i agree the project should be self funded and not tax-payers money. Its the same here in Australia. Only land allocation should be allowed. However if the govt wants to provide the funds as a loan, that would also be agreeable.
@Imad.Khan brother since you quoted Ghamdi, I will guess you subscribe to some of his views, my sincere short advice to you would be that Islam never said it was easy, it always said in it is ease. Don't mix the two. Regards.Over the years it has seemed to me their followers want to be good muslims but find it too hard to follow traditional islam (e.g. giving up 2.5% of their bank balance is too hard for them, leaving music is too hard for them, accepting their sister in law does hijab from them is too hard for them etc so they seek out preacher who can give them 'Diet Islam').