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PLAN gives presentation on type 055 and 057 next Gen

there is no designation of 057 or 'exporting version' of 055 end of story````same as selling J-20 nonsense

the ships we presented to Pakistani navy were 054/056 and few sub variants !
@Rafi
@war&peace

but the good part is, those presented ships are the best in your region, in terms of cost efficiency and combat effectiveness they are the elites in their respective class. forget about those looking good Indian stuff, they are not built for wars
 
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there is no designation of 057 or 'exporting version' of 055 end of story````same as selling J-20 nonsense

the ships we presented to Pakistani navy were 054/056 and few sub variants !
@Rafi
@war&peace

but the good part is, those presented ships are the best in your region, in terms of cost efficiency and combat effectiveness they are the elites in their respective class. forget about those looking good Indian stuff, they are not built for wars
Fully agree. The 057 designation is from Chinese media from 2014

"China introduced design new generation Type 057 frigate
Report of the Chinese medias said, the PLAN has completed the design of a new generation stealth corvette Type 057 .

Mil.news.sina.com.cn said, that works builds the Type 057 frigate will start in late 2014, with plans to put the number close to 20 units, complete the table China delivered to the Navy in 2025 .

Chinese media assessment that, Type 057 will are frigates are designed to gradually replace the battleships obsolete Type 053 class . Type 057 will be equipped with hybrid propulsion systems ( hybrid ) , increase stealth compared to the previous generation frigates .

Type 057 will amount to about 4,500 tons of water relaxation , the ship will be equipped with new generation radar system with a vertical launch systems ( VLS ) for air defense missiles."
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/plan-type-054-ffg-thread-ii.t4149/page-258

Since it is now almost 2017 and we've seen no such thing as a 057 being built, I would think that confirms the whole thing as fan-art starting to live its own life in local media.

Regarding 055, one or perhaps two are currently building. It is the top of the line in Chinese naval vessels, short of carrier. I don't foresee export of this untill after China's PLAN requirements have been fulfilled and even then only in a downgraded export version, IF AT ALL.

At over 10k tons displacement any export to Pakistan seems unlikely: how would such a large vessel fit in with the rest of the navy, and how many could/would be had (a single ship would constitute a 'white elephant')? PN needs would be better served with several smaller ships than one large ship, even when very well armed.

It just doesn't make sense.
 
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Look at the Wish list of members here, than having a look at our pockets for now its just very heart breaking ..PN need Frigates and Destroyers but everything will come in Due time .
 
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there is no designation of 057 or 'exporting version' of 055 end of story````same as selling J-20 nonsense

the ships we presented to Pakistani navy were 054/056 and few sub variants !
@Rafi
@war&peace

but the good part is, those presented ships are the best in your region, in terms of cost efficiency and combat effectiveness they are the elites in their respective class. forget about those looking good Indian stuff, they are not built for wars

It is F22P variant but not 054. Check the height of the VLS above the deck
 
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PN will buy ships as per their requirement & resources.
Rashid sb why dont we start building something in house? We have the technology base developed from F-22P, why cant we start off from there and for critical systems, tenders could be launched for Chinese or Turkish systems. Gradually some sort of capability could be built. Your take?
 
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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/jiangwei.htm

At least one if not as many as four of these ships were laid down for Pakistan's Navy to replace four US warships. Purchase of four of the ships was deferred in 1995 due to economic and diplomatic problems. The first unit was reportedly built for Pakistani Navy (numbered 597), but when budgetary constraints terminated the deal the ship was later renumbered as 521.

The F22-P [P for Pakistan] class frigates are the export version of the Jiangwei-II Type 053H2, built by China between 1996 and 2005. The Chinese version carries a pair of quadruple YJ-8II SSM systems and an octuple HQ-7 SAM system. While the hull and the main machinery of the Pakistani ships are expected to be the same as China's, the command-and-control systems, the weapons, and the sensors were specially modified to Pakistan’s requirements. The ships were equipped with Pakistan's existing inventory of naval weapons: French Exocet, Chinese C-802, and US Harpoon Missiles. The F-22s will also had better ASW capability than the ex-Leanders.

The C28A-class corvette, was designed by the Marine Design and Research Institute under China State Shipbuilding Corp. In 2011, it defeated 10 competitors from eight countries for the Algerian Navy contract for three corvettes. The first C28A was delivered in September 2015 and the second in January 2016.

The C28A-class corvette represents the highest technological level of China's export warship, China Ship News quoted shipbuilding sources as saying in July 2016 that it has the best combat capability and is very competitive on the international market. With a displacement of 3,000 metric tons, the 120-meter-long corvette can conduct offshore defense operations and long-distance combat tasks. It is larger than previous warships China has sold to foreign nations, has new equipment, a stealth design and a higher level of automation. It has a cruise speed of about 30 km/h and an operational range of nearly 10,000 km.

Wu Qiang, general manager of China State Shipbuilding Corp, the parent company of the Hudong-Zhonghua, told China National Radio at the commissioning ceremony that the ship is a symbol of China's achievement. "In the past, naval ships we sold to other countries mostly used foreign-developed weapons, but all of the weapons and radar installed on three C28As, including anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles, torpedoes and naval guns, are domestically developed," he said. "The results of these C28A ships' tests are very satisfactory, and our clients are happy with their performance."

Ren Yi, chief designer of the C28A, was quoted by China Central Television as saying that the ship can perform reconnaissance, aircraft and missile defense, anti-ship and anti-submarine operations, as well as maritime humanitarian missions. Gao Zhuo, a military observer in Beijing, told China Daily that China's new-generation naval vessels are reliable, have outstanding combat capabilities and are attractive in terms of price and operational costs, making them good choices for developing nations.



Jiangwei-III Type 053H2 [059?]
The last three vessels, Xiangfan (567), Luoyang (527) and Mianyang (528), have slightly different weapons and radar configuration. As the Jiangwei-II lacked vertical-launch system air defense missiles, they are being succeeded by the Jiangwei-III Type 059, to be built with VLS missiles. The Jiangwei-III Type 053H3 [seemingly not 059] class frigates was expected to begin construction before 2005. This anticipated to remedy the anti-air deficiencies of the Type 055 class through the addition of a vertical launch system battery of surface-to-air missiles. Construction of this third variant had apparently been abandoned in favor of the Type 054 Maanshan, similar to Jiangwei III except stealthy features and CIWS.

But Bernard D. Cole, author of "The Great Wall at Sea: China's Navy in the Twenty-First Century" visited a Jiangwei III–class FFG in May 2006, during which the ship's commanding officer described his ship, then just six months in commission, as a “Jiangwei III”. The Jiangwei III, of which at least one was in commission as of 2010, seemed to differ from its earlier models mainly in its improved command and control capabilities.
 
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Rashid sb why dont we start building something in house? We have the technology base developed from F-22P, why cant we start off from there and for critical systems, tenders could be launched for Chinese or Turkish systems. Gradually some sort of capability could be built. Your take?

I have always promoted in-house ship building.
We should have started to build naval vessels in the 80's and we would have been much ahead by now.

Yes F22's have given us the start, and in the next project we should take it at a more advanced stage.
PN should be involved in the design and building of whatever vessel they select.
 
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I have always promoted in-house ship building.
We should have started to build naval vessels in the 80's and we would have been much ahead by now.

Yes F22's have given us the start, and in the next project we should take it at a more advanced stage.
PN should be involved in the design and building of whatever vessel they select.
I personally would like to see Frigates and corvettes with water-jets, instead of props, and long range supersonic sam's.

COUNT US ALONG WITH YOU ALL, PLEASE.

HOWEVER, AS I NEVER BELONGED TO THE NAVY, I HAVE VERY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT NAVAL VESSELS PLATFORMS AND REFRAINING MYSELF FROM THESE TOPICS.
Your sentiments are appreciated. Unfortunately Hasina (who is anything but haseen) and gang, give good people like you, a bad name as well.
 
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Fully agree. The 057 designation is from Chinese media from 2014

"China introduced design new generation Type 057 frigate
Report of the Chinese medias said, the PLAN has completed the design of a new generation stealth corvette Type 057 .

Mil.news.sina.com.cn said, that works builds the Type 057 frigate will start in late 2014, with plans to put the number close to 20 units, complete the table China delivered to the Navy in 2025 .

Chinese media assessment that, Type 057 will are frigates are designed to gradually replace the battleships obsolete Type 053 class . Type 057 will be equipped with hybrid propulsion systems ( hybrid ) , increase stealth compared to the previous generation frigates .

Type 057 will amount to about 4,500 tons of water relaxation , the ship will be equipped with new generation radar system with a vertical launch systems ( VLS ) for air defense missiles."
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/plan-type-054-ffg-thread-ii.t4149/page-258

Since it is now almost 2017 and we've seen no such thing as a 057 being built, I would think that confirms the whole thing as fan-art starting to live its own life in local media.

Regarding 055, one or perhaps two are currently building. It is the top of the line in Chinese naval vessels, short of carrier. I don't foresee export of this untill after China's PLAN requirements have been fulfilled and even then only in a downgraded export version, IF AT ALL.

At over 10k tons displacement any export to Pakistan seems unlikely: how would such a large vessel fit in with the rest of the navy, and how many could/would be had (a single ship would constitute a 'white elephant')? PN needs would be better served with several smaller ships than one large ship, even when very well armed.

It just doesn't make sense.
there are 2 055s have been laid down in JN, but the 'factory/factories' has already ordered half dozen of radars and 'vital parts' that were designed for 055````so you know what I mean

oh, btw, the normal displacement of 055 is 12,000 tonnage, and full displacement is around 13,000``````but initially it was designed as 20,000 tonnage warship and reduced to the current displacement
 
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Senior Pakistani military and civilian officials have been given a comprehensive presentation on next generation state-of-the-art navy vessels, which have included price and production schedules.

Pakistanis were highly impressed and expressed interest, from what I hear, next ten years of good economic growth and continued reduction of security issues, good chance.

NUFF SAID.
Rafi Sahab, is right. Presentation included other things as well. What will be bought remains to seen.

https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...-pakistani-waters.461722/page-55#post-8938520

https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...-from-china-turkey.463041/page-5#post-8952570

@Khafee FYI
 
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Certainly National Defence has to be solidified on all fronts and with CPEC it is absolute must that we have a solid NAVY
to suppliment a Brave Military force , and Eagles of Sky Pakistan Airforce

10 Type 054B or larger Ships or larger Lease from China
6 Corvettes
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Fast Attack options 20 Ships (Stealth / None Stealth)

Let us see how the news develops further


The new ships being discussed beyond doubt would be "exceptional" addition
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These two models are very nice would certainly add to our fleet's capability
considering we have "ZERO" corvettes and barely any Large frigate
 
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I personally would like to see Frigates and corvettes with water-jets, instead of props, and long range supersonic sam's.


Your sentiments are appreciated. Unfortunately Hasina (who is anything but haseen) and gang, give good people like you, a bad name as well.

Well, do you think that I give hoots to their calling by by bad names,i.e. JAMATI, RAZAKAR, OR EVEN AN ISI AGENT?

HASINA and her gang have already caused numerable sufferings to my family members along with me ,my spouse has already passed away, thanks to Awami League,

TRYING TO TARNISH MY IMAGE WITHOUT ANY thread of evidence, WHICH I AM FIGHTING BACK IN THE COURT OF LAW, ALSO HIGHLY POLITICIZED BY THEM . MOREOVER I HAVE ALMOST COMPLETED TRANSFERRING ALL MY ASSETS TO MY DAUGHTERS,

What else more are left , abducting and DUMPING MY DEAD CORPSE in a gutter? Making my daughters ORPHANS?

ALMIGHTY HAS DECIDED THE TIME OF MY LAST BREATH,WHO IS HASINA?
 
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Well, do you think that I give hoots to their calling by by bad names,i.e. JAMATI, RAZAKAR, OR EVEN AN ISI AGENT?

HASINA and her gang have already caused numerable sufferings to my family members along with me ,my spouse has already passed away, thanks to Awami League,

TRYING TO TARNISH MY IMAGE WITHOUT ANY thread of evidence, WHICH I AM FIGHTING BACK IN THE COURT OF LAW, ALSO HIGHLY POLITICIZED BY THEM . MOREOVER I HAVE ALMOST COMPLETED TRANSFERRING ALL MY ASSETS TO MY DAUGHTERS,

What else more are left , abducting and DUMPING MY DEAD CORPSE in a gutter? Making my daughters ORPHANS?

ALMIGHTY HAS DECIDED THE TIME OF MY LAST BREATH,WHO IS HASINA?

Extremely sorry to hear about your loss.

May Allah give you patience and strength to carry on, and may he punish the perpetrators. Have faith in him.

Best Regards
 
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