PLA would lose 40% of its fleet to sink a US carrier

[sincity]

These Chinese poster used the DF-21D like a **** to shove it up gambit anus, he seem to always upset when the Chinese mention DF-21D.

 

[gambit]

These Chinese poster used the DF-21D like a **** to shove it up gambit anus, he seem to always upset when the Chinese mention DF-21D.

Me, upset? Negatory, good buddy.

If anything, it has been I who have been using the DF-21D as a dildo against the Chinese members here.

 

[Sashan]

@gambit - a question - if DF-21D is launched by China, would it be construed as a first strike under MAD?

 

[sovcomflot]

@gambit - a question - if DF-21D is launched by China, would it be construed as a first strike under MAD?

Chances are yes.It is difficult to differentiate b/w non-nuclear and nuclear long range ballistic missiles. Chances are high that the US military might interpret the launch of Df-21 as a nuclear one which in turn could lead to use of trident missiles by USA.

 

[Destro]

The only thing a conscript reject like you know about the DF-21D is how to array the English alphabets to mention it in writing. Other than that, I bet you can barely tell the difference between a hammer and a screwdriver.

Can you tell me the difference between a hammer and a screwdriver?

 

[Destro]

These Chinese poster used the DF-21D like a **** to shove it up gambit anus, he seem to always upset when the Chinese mention DF-21D.

The DF-21D is more than enough to defeat the US military just like in the Korean War. The US military is all for show and propaganda purposes. When was the last time the US military fought and defeated a military that can fight back?

The US military capability is grossly overestimated due to the propaganda mouthpieces in the United States.

Every time the US military has fought China, the US has been humiliated and waved the white flag. It happened in Korea and Vietnam.

So much for those so-called ‘stealth’ planes. Just ask military superpower Serbia on how to shoot down US ‘stealth’ planes. It might be stealth in America, but it ain’t stealth in Serbia.

Until the US can defeat China in war and prove its ability to defeat a major power, the US military will remain just a decent military power hyped up by the world’s best propaganda apparatus of the American regime.

 

[UKBengali]

Chances are yes.It is difficult to differentiate b/w non-nuclear and nuclear long range ballistic missiles. Chances are high that the US military might interpret the launch of Df-21 as a nuclear one which in turn could lead to use of trident missiles by USA.

Again, this silly line of argument as to why China would not be able to use DF-21D.

You do not use nuclear missiles unless you are sure that enemy missiles are targeting your cities with what has to be nuclear armed warheads.

 

[UKBengali]

The DF-21D is more than enough to defeat the US military just like in the Korean War. The US military is all for show and propaganda purposes. When was the last time the US military fought and defeated a military that can fight back?

The US military capability is grossly overestimated due to the propaganda mouthpieces in the United States.

Every time the US military has fought China, the US has been humiliated and waved the white flag. It happened in Korea and Vietnam.

So much for those so-called ‘stealth’ planes. Just ask military superpower Serbia on how to shoot down US ‘stealth’ planes. It might be stealth in America, but it ain’t stealth in Serbia.

Until the US can defeat China in war and prove its ability to defeat a major power, the US military will remain just a decent military power hyped up by the world’s best propaganda apparatus of the American regime.

The US needed 4 years to defeat Japan in WW2 and that had an economy that was around a tenth of the size of the US!

The most powerful countries they have beaten since WW2 have been Vietnam and Iraq.

 

[JSCh]

Would the launch of a Tomahawk missile by a Virginia/Ohio class be considered as a nuclear one?

 

[gambit]

@gambit - a question - if DF-21D is launched by China, would it be construed as a first strike under MAD?

The US Army at one point had nuclear artillery shells. The Warsaw Pact pretty much responded that from that point on, there would be no way for anyone to know if an artillery shell is nuclear or non, and therefore an immediate respond could, not would, be justifiably nuclear.

From a technical standpoint, it is literally impossible to tell if a ballistic missile is nuclear or non. That leave only tactical analysis, basically guesswork, to see what are the odds of the incoming missile being nuclear or non. And who is going to spend those precious minutes to analyze? Ballistic missiles were originally developed to carry nuclear weapons and that perception have not changed despite the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War.

An argument could be made that if the DF-21D is accurate and precise enough, there would be no need to use a nuclear weapon against the American ship. But that begs the question of how can we know if the weapon is accurate and precise enough. Another argument could be made that a ship is nothing like a city, so it would be mad for China to use nuclear weapons against such a target. But the counter argument for that is if the DF-21D failed, the American fleet would be able to wreak havoc on the rest of the Chinese military and perhaps even threaten the Chinese homeland itself, so better to use nuclear weapons to destroy the American fleet and deal with the nuclear consequences.

Simply put...There is no way to tell.

China will plunge Asia into another war and it will be a hot one. I am confident in that. And the Chinese will not care if that 'hot' is nuclear.

The US needed 4 years to defeat Japan in WW2 and that had an economy that was around a tenth of the size of the US!

The most powerful countries they have beaten since WW2 have been Vietnam and Iraq.

Is there a standard on how long a war against a country of certain economic standing must last? Let me know when the great Bangladesh military fingered that one out.

 

[UKBengali]

Mainly you don't have anything valid to say, why don't you just admit you jump the gun too soon?

No, it is YOU who is making things up to make the US look stronger than it really is.

If we take your logic to it's extreme, the US could just get rid of aircraft carriers altogether and rely on tankers and launch fighters from bases in the US to fight anywhere in the world.

Like it or not the DF-21D will make US think twice about getting involved in Chinese affairs.

It is just one of many weapons that China has to fight against the US Navy, the others being anti-ship missiles launched from aircraft, ships and submarines and torpedoes from SSNs under the ocean.

The US is still the strongest Navy in the world by a large margin but that does not mean that the US can fight against China on it's home turf with impunity.

 

[gambit]

The DF-21D is more than enough to defeat the US military just like in the Korean War.

Ah, yes...The Korean War again..And what have the PLA accomplished since then? Ran over a few students in downtown Beijing with tanks and using soldiers to execute political dissidents.

The US military is all for show and propaganda purposes. When was the last time the US military fought and defeated a military that can fight back?

Certainly it would not be China. Your ace PLAAF pilot in a small agile fighter collided with a lumbering four engine prop jobber as it was flying straight and narrow.

I heard the PLAAF have some kind of flying award called 'The Golden Shower' for its pilots, is that true?

Would the launch of a Tomahawk missile by a Virginia/Ohio class be considered as a nuclear one?

It can be. But the problem for this question is that cruise missiles are generally difficult to detect, especially when launched by subs, and their flight behaviors are little different from manned aircrafts. The only time to know what a cruise missile is -- is after it hit its target.

 

[Ajatashatru]

In an actual war, China will have to fight all the NATO countries plus Japan and South Korea, not only the US. And China can count only on North Korea. They can't even be sure about any overt military support from Russia.

 

[peaceful]

@gambit - a question - if DF-21D is launched by China, would it be construed as a first strike under MAD?

stupid question.

In an actual war, China will have to fight all the NATO countries plus Japan and South Korea, not only the US. And China can count only on North Korea. They can't even be sure about any overt military support from Russia.

oh, poor stupid and dirty boy! what you described is the exact same as what happened during the Korean War. We did it.

Learn history. low caste moron.

Ah, yes...The Korean War again..And what have the PLA accomplished since then? Ran over a few students in downtown Beijing with tanks and using soldiers to execute political dissidents.

Had war with Vietnam for 10 years, effectively destroyed its entire industrial base in the north. Vietnam is dead poor for a reason and I just gave you the reason.

Fighting USSR is not even mentioned? Bloody amercians didn't even dare to shoot a single bullet! Learn something you low IQ vietnamese monkey.

 

[peaceful]

The US Army at one point had nuclear artillery shells. The Warsaw Pact pretty much responded that from that point on, there would be no way for anyone to know if an artillery shell is nuclear or non, and therefore an immediate respond could, not would, be justifiably nuclear.

From a technical standpoint, it is literally impossible to tell if a ballistic missile is nuclear or non. That leave only tactical analysis, basically guesswork, to see what are the odds of the incoming missile being nuclear or non. And who is going to spend those precious minutes to analyze? Ballistic missiles were originally developed to carry nuclear weapons and that perception have not changed despite the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War.

An argument could be made that if the DF-21D is accurate and precise enough, there would be no need to use a nuclear weapon against the American ship. But that begs the question of how can we know if the weapon is accurate and precise enough. Another argument could be made that a ship is nothing like a city, so it would be mad for China to use nuclear weapons against such a target. But the counter argument for that is if the DF-21D failed, the American fleet would be able to wreak havoc on the rest of the Chinese military and perhaps even threaten the Chinese homeland itself, so better to use nuclear weapons to destroy the American fleet and deal with the nuclear consequences.

Simply put...There is no way to tell.

China will plunge Asia into another war and it will be a hot one. I am confident in that. And the Chinese will not care if that 'hot' is nuclear.

So funny to have such loser comments from a vietnamese monkey.

By using such thug's theory, every single cruise missile filed by the US should be considered as a first nuclear strike because there is no way to tell whether the missile is fitted with a nuclear warhead.

one day vietnamese, always low IQ.

智商的问题不是可以通过教育、经验提高的，更多的，它受先天的约束，比如种族。

Would the launch of a Tomahawk missile by a Virginia/Ohio class be considered as a nuclear one?

must be. there is simply no way to tell whether it is nuclear warhead fitted or not.

Chances are yes.It is difficult to differentiate b/w non-nuclear and nuclear long range ballistic missiles. Chances are high that the US military might interpret the launch of Df-21 as a nuclear one which in turn could lead to use of trident missiles by USA.

And all Chinese DF-31/41 have to sit idle.

indian loser, please keep this in mind: JL-2/DF-31/41 is not a joke, they are the default 2nd strike mastered by a declared nuclear weapon state.