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Of cours, Americans would not like to debate on the issues they have nothing but lame reasons to offer. Okay lets leave WDM out, want to discuss how 757 after hitting the Pentagon evaporated with two huge huge engines? :hang2: You need to be an American to believe the BS your secret services throws out.

Do my words hurt? Well you deserve some.
Find the appropriate and currently existing discussion about these loony conspiracy theories and I will embarrass you there. I can embarrass you about 'WMD' as well.
 
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Yawn; feeble attempts to draw a curtain on your own fallacies and shortcomings. I could give you thousands of articles about slavery as a legalised institution in the US which caused the American Civil War.
The abolition movement did not birth from America but largely from England -- William Wilberforce.

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William Wilberforce (24 August 1759 – 29 July 1833) was a British politician, a philanthropist and a leader of the movement to abolish the slave trade.
The American Civil War was the result of a moral correction by the Americans themselves. What is a moral correction and if there is one that would mean there was an immorality, an obvious one, that compelled the correction, correct? Kicking a ball in the house is, in a manner, an 'immorality'. The response would be a correction like a spanking or to confine the child in his room or eject the boy out to the yard.

So do explain to all what was the great immorality in China at the end of WW II, or at the Cultural Revolution, or the Great Leap Forward, that compelled the atrocities done by the Chinese communists against fellow Chinese. For example...Is being a 'landowner', benevolent or malevolent is not the point, sufficiently immoral? For example...Is being a highly educated person, like a doctor or an engineer or an architect, in other words, being a person highly trained in critical thinking, a skill dreaded by dictators, sufficiently immoral? For example...In the collective farms, husbands and wives were forcibly separated into dormitories for men and women, in other words, is being a family unit sufficiently immoral?

Again...The American Civil War was a moral correction to a great immorality -- institutionalized slavery. So WHAT was the great immorality that compelled the slaughter of professionals such as doctors, teachers, engineers, artists, and even village elders, not just in China, but also in Viet Nam and as far as South America whenever communists managed to come to power? So WHAT was the great immorality that compelled this...

www.listeningforachange.org/pdfs/section_vi_cambodia.pdf
Once forced into the countryside, the people were forced into work in the collective farms or on special construction projects. Families were separated, with husbands, wives and children all working in different parts of the country, often not seeing each other for seasons at a time. Some children never saw their parents again. Married people need permission to meet and sleep together. On the collectives, men and women slept in separate, large communal bunk houses. Noted one Khmer citizen, "Imagine sleeping in a 45-foot collective bed. We were expendables, treated worse than prisoners. We were used as machinery." Mass weddings were arranged by the Khmer Rouge, and waves of suicide resulted.
These social programs had to come from some place, right? To force husbands and wives apart in the name of 'progress' could only mean that communists saw the family unit itself as a great immorality and such coercive social programs the correcitve measures necessary for the greater societal good. At least the American slaveowner was honest about his status and his slaves -- profit. So why are communists continues to be so coy about their beliefs? The American form of institutionalized slavery and the American Civil War are excellent examples and you should be applauded for bringing it up. It shows that behaviorally speaking communists are no better than slaveowners.

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Capitalism doesn't paint a rosy picture either w.r.t. Communism.
Ya know sumthin...Being a 'commie' nowadays is more of a pose than a conviction. At YOUR core of being, you are a capitalist.

Societies tend to evolve on their own, through the voice of the people and fix their shortcomings;
What 'voice of the people' under communism? But if there are other voices from among 'the people' that country would not be communist, right? Looky here...It is a trademark of communists that they tolerate no dissent since they believe they know better than anyone else as to what is 'good' for society, first to the one they happened to rule over. For the American slave owner, did the 'voice' of his slaves mattered much? The American slave owner treated his slaves much like cattle and selected which bull to mate with which cow. What do you call arranged and mass weddings by the Khmer Rouge upon 'the people'? Cows do not commit suicides after their matings with the bulls selected by the farmer. I bet the Khmer Rouge communist social farmers must have been damn frustrated that their human cows did commit suicide. May be they did not follow exactly how the Chinese communist social farmers did with their cows. Do you honestly believe that husbands and wives DID NOT objected to being forcibly separated, in China and in Cambodia? If the objections of husbands and wives do not matter since the family unit is an immorality that needed correction, what make you think ideological and political differences, aka 'the voice of the people', matters to communists?

not because America has been given a stamp of Divine Intervention to put its dick into every other country's affairs.
But I guess the triumvirate Marx, Lenin and Engels, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost of communism, granted ideological imprimatur for communists to stick their own dicks into every other country's affairs.

America has made it a habit to justify any sadistic intervention and killing people around the world by its military in the name of national security. Then American's go like Oh dont debate us because you dont know what WMD means. Even you didn't know ****-all about WMD's in Iraq. What an arrogant nation America is.
I doubt that YOU do.
 
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I will respond to this one instead, Mr. Gambit. I can see where you are coming from. We will not launch into a debate whether China was/is in fact "Communist", or whether "Communism" is attainable under earthly conditions at all.

There is Maoism/Leninism, and there is socialism with "Chinese characteristics". These different trees have borne different fruits, which have been witnessed by all in China.
All rotten.

America sells "Democracy", yet practices barely concealed Plutocracy.
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In a plutocracy, the degree of economic inequality is high while the level of social mobility is low. This can apply to a multitude of government systems, as the key elements of plutocracy transcend and often occur concurrently with the features of those systems.
Number of multimillionaires may hit 320,000 in '09
The number of China's wealthiest is expected to expand to an estimated number of 320,000 people by the end of 2009 who own about 9 trillion yuan ($1.29 trillion) in private equity value, says a report released on Monday.

The China Private Wealth Report 2009, co-conducted by consultancy group Bain & Company and China Merchants Bank (CMB), says the group of multimillionaires in the Chinese mainland had expanded to nearly 300,000 in 2008, with the number of the people with private equity worth at least 100 million yuan rose to about 10,000.
So we see roughly %.025 of the population holding...er...1/3 (?) of the wealth...in China?

Nope...no plutocracy here.

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But no, I did not mention the Zionists for a reason - that it doesn't apply - at least not as often as some tend to think. Not all who sympathize with secular Zionism are radical Zionists.

And not all who are pro-Palestinian rights are against secular Zionism - with boundaries.

So don't put words in my mouth.
Relax...I threw that in not because YOU said anything about it but in consideration for the many loony conspiracy minded people here.
 
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Vietnamese refugees

The Vietnamese comprise the largest population of Southeast Asian refugees to have settled in the United States. With their American-born children, they number approximately 995,000. Most of them from what once the Republic of Vietnam, known as "South Vietnam", which had its capital at Saigon. Their government, allied with the United States, collapsed under military pressure from communist North Vietnam in April of 1975.

The first arrivals: As Saigon fell to the communists, some 135,000 Vietnamese fled to America. These were mainly ex-military and government officials, Vietnamese who had worked for the U.S. during the war and their families. Initially, they came to four U.S. military bases in California, Arkansas, Pennsylvania, and Florida. Several national voluntary agencies, under contract from the Department of State, resettled these new arrivals in communities throughout the country and arranged "sponsorships" for the refugees. These sponsorships involved the provision of housing and initial support from interested Americans.

The boat people: Conditions in the southern portion of the newly reunified Vietnam worsened in the late 1970s, and there also was a drive by the new government to rid the country of its Chinese merchant class. As a result, thousands of Vietnamese and Sino-Vietnamese sought to escape from the country. In addition to the merchant Chinese, these included many Vietnamese farmers and fishermen and their families. No one knows exactly how many thousands of people took to boats, and some estimates are that as many as half of them perished at sea. The successful ones reached refugee camps in Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, and HongKong From those camps, many were admitted to he United States and other "third countries."

Orderly departure: Reports about drownings and piracy created growing concern in the late 1970s, and the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) was able to negotiate an agreement under which the government of Vietnam would allow "orderly departure" for some of its citizens with relatives who had resettled abroad. This family reunification program at first enjoyed some success, but those Vietnamese without relatives abroad continued to escape by boat. By the mid-1980s, numerous disputes arose between the Vietnamese government and resettlement countries over eligibility for the program, and this slowed the rate of departures significantly. Orderly departure was finally resumed in 1987.

Amerasians: Since the end of the war, many Americans had been concerned about the plight of so-called "Amerasians," children born in Vietnam to Vietnamese women and American fathers during the war years. Because they were of "mixed blood," the Vietnamese government regarded hem as "bui doi," or "the dust of life." When America offered to accept them as refugees, however, the Vietnamese government refused to allow their departure because they denied discriminating against them — a requirement for refugee status. The U.S. Congress then passed a measure allowing Amerasians to be admitted to he U.S. as "immigrants" who were entitled to the same benefits as refugees. Thus began the migration of some 100,000 Amerasians to this country.

Political prisoners: At the end of the war in 1975, thousands of South Vietnamese — including former members of the military and former U.S. government employees — were sent to "reeducation camps" where most were detained for many years under harsh conditions. Concerned about these former comrades-in-arms and colleagues, the U.S. Government pleaded for many years for their release and permission to emigrate. Finally, in 1988, the U.S. Department of State reached an agreement with the Vietnamese government to allow many of them to leave through the Orderly Departure Program. An estimated 100,000 were released to join family members overseas.

Today: Amerasians, former political prisoners, and family members continue to come to the United States through "orderly departure" and ordinary immigration channels. In addition, US officials are now rescreening thousands of Vietnamese who had been repatriated from Asian refugee camps, to determine if they qualify or US refugee status (the ROVR program — "Resettlement Opportunities for Vietnamese Returnees"). In all, compared with the many thousands during the past decades, these numbers are small, and the U.S. Government, which now has diplomatic relations with Vietnam, has expressed its intent to "normalize" this migration through regular immigration channels in the near future.

Where do they live?: The largest number of Vietnamese now live in Southern California, particularly in Los Angeles and Orange County. Large numbers also resettled in the Houston and Dallas areas, the suburbs of Washington, DC, and the States of Washington, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Massachusetts, New York, and Illinois.
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What is this women military group for? This red one? Please tell.. Are these nurses?

They are militants not soldiers. They have gone through some basic military training but they are civilians in peace time. One of them in the red group is a fashion model! Please note they join the militant on their own will.

I think this is more a symbol that Chinese people will fight for the country till the last man and even last woman if necessary.
 
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gambit, stop trolling.:devil: this thread is about pics in Beijing. If you really want to debate on communism pls don't hijack this thread but opening a new thread in some other section and see how many ppl willing to debate that with you over there.
 
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Vietnamese refugees in HongKong

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Riot at Vietnamese refugee camp in Hong Kong;
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Hong Kong - (AFP June 14, 1999) - Hong Kong police used tear gas to put down a riot in a camp for Vietnamese refugees which saw buildings fire-bombed and at least 17 people injured, police said Monday (June 14,1999).

Some 200 Vietnamese sought protection at a police station near the Pillar Point camp saying they feared attacks by fellow refugees. And the violence again cast the spotlight on the problem of what to do with remaining Vietnamese left over from the boat people crisis of the 1980s.

Police in riot gear battled for more than a hour to quell a brawl between hundreds of refugees at the camp late Sunday (13/06/99).

They eventually fired four canisters of tear gas to stop the fighting. Four Vietnamese were arrested and police said they found about 17 kinds of home-made weapons in a search of the camp.

Eleven of the 17 injured including a nine month-old baby were hospitalized.

Camp residents insisted that Pillar Point had been taken over by crime syndicates who were creating the unrest.

One Vietnamese refugee claimed inhabitants were forced to pay up to 300 Hong Kong dollars (US$39) a month protection money to former refugees in the camp.

Timothy Tong, the Hong Kong government deputy security secretary, told a press conference on Monday that order had been restored at the camp.

Tong said several measures were needed to improve conditions at the camp. One was to increase contacts between the camp management and residents and better integrating the Vietnamese into Hong Kong society.

The U.N. High Commissioner for Refugee (UNHCR) has told the authorities that the chances of remaining refugees resettling in third countries was becoming "more dificult."

The UNHCR is also grappling with the problem of around 500 mostly ethnic Chinese people, who have not been granted refugee status and whom Vietnam has refused to accept.

Press reports said camp residents blamed drug addicts for causing trouble.

They said organized syndicates controlled prostitution, gambling and drugs. There is also long standing rivalry between north and south Vietnamese in the camp.

Pillar Point, an open camp managed by the social welfare group Caritas, houses some 1,500 people, of whom more than 900 were awaiting resettlement in other countries, while the rest awaited repatriation to Vietnam.

HongKong authorities spent more than US$150 million since 1989 to find accomodation for more than 200,000 vietnamese refugees who arrived by boatload during late 1970s and 1980s

At Beijing's insistence most of the boat people were repatriated to Vietnam, many forcibly, before Hong Kong's return to Chinese rule in July 1997.

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(From The China Post, Tuesday June 15, 1999)
 
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on Verbatim, ABC Radio National's social history program,
Saturday 8 March, 2003.

Most people have only one birth and one death: one birth-time in childhood, one time of death in old age when the body returns to the earth and the spirit goes far away on a new journey.

Refugees' experiences of living and dying are different. Their lives have much more birth time and dying time than others'. They live and die like an uprooted plant, putting down roots, then being uprooted again and again in strange new lands. In this never-ending cycle of life and death, they know well how to live and die, struggling between the two to express their hunger for life.

I was thirty-eight when I escaped from a dying place, from Vietnam, to a living place, Hong Kong, the freedom shore. The day I landed, 28 October 1981, for me was a second birth. It was as if the plant of my lifeblood had once again connected and found its roots in the garden of humankind, and there on the branches sprang a green bud. From now on, I had a life of flowers and fruits and a new, brighter future. Looking back on my past, I knew I had been a plant that was missing and losing out. A growing plant, but not a vital plant; growing flowers and fruits, but not the vital flowers and fruits. So today I would like to say thanks to Mother Earth's and Hong Kong's people, who have looked after me and helped me grow up from those baby-born times.

The Hong Kong refugee camp had given me an ID card. My number was LM 1556/20 - 4132, meaning that I was the twentieth person on the 1556th boat to cross the sea to Hong Kong. The twentieth son born, not in a cradle with silver or gold decorations and wind chimes hanging, but in a temporary detention camp, awaiting investigation and transfer to another camp where I could live and work freely, or for permission to emigrate to another country.

Let me say more about my Jublee cradle. Originally Jublee was a prison where the ordinary criminals of Hong Kong were held. The inner building had bluestone walls covered with moss, and the doors and windows were reinforced with steel frames. The high outer walls on either side of the gates were topped with sharp barbs. All year round, it was a still, gloomy place.

I was growing up easily there with forty fellow-refugees. We all lived together in one room, twenty square metres in area, with a bare wooden floor and three tiers of steel bunk beds. We rarely went out of the room, except when the Hong Kong police called us for investigation or when we had an appointment for an interview with the United Nations representative.

Sometimes in the afternoons we would queue up outdoors, following the order of our boat numbers, waiting for the roll-call. That was a good time. We had a bask in the sun, turning our skin pink. Once, taking a quick look at the sky outside the prison area, I wished I could become a seagull freely flying under that tropical sky, with its deep oriental blue.

Although my second time of being born and growing up was in Jublee camp, where I had no freedom, I did not despair. In my mind, I still had faith that in the future, my life-plant would grow and green up strongly, whichever land I was in.
Redreaming the Plain: an e-journal about sustainability
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Gambit I really dont understand what you are trying to get at. Are you telling me that when the US was going through the "Red Scear" that there were no problems in the US. The goverment BLACK LISTED so many people it wasn't even funny. Peoples reputations went down the drain like it was flowing water. Every country has its ups and downs. Its time you move on.
You must have confused Siberia's gulags with some hick towns in Alaska. But seriously...The infamous 'Red Scare' in the US did not have the US government sending trench coated and darkly clothed men from spooky three-lettered agencies to people's houses in the middle of the night and whisked them off amid the wailings of their women and children. Sounds cliche? Well...It would not be a cliche if there is not a good measure of truth to it and that such things happened so often in communist countries that it cannot help but become a cliche.

What I am trying to get at, in vain, is WHAT significance is this celebration to China? Sixty years of what? Liberation from whose oppression? WHO is calling for this celebration? There are no credible answers to the 'what'. China was never wholly under foreigners' rule, parts and parcels like Manchuria under Imperial Japan, but not all of China. And when WW II ended and the European colonialists were ejected, who is left but the Chinese? So what is cause for celebration by the PRC?

Frankly I am inpressed at how well they are structured and are able to keep such a large army in tip top condition. It is great. Keep up the good work China.
Thanks for clarifying the question I highlighted above. So the answer for a celebration is about the military. Yup...After sixty years in power and the most prominent thing a country can show to the world is how powerful is its military. You have a flash drive? Toshiba of Japan invented NAND memory back in 1989. Japan has no need to put on a parade for Toshiba to celebrate 20yrs of geek success. The pervasiveness of NAND memory throughout the world is sufficient accolade. Can anyone use China's jet fighters, tanks and missiles in their daily lives? Can YOU? The Internet and the WWW protocols are about 40-something years old. Do you remember who put on a parade for both? How about the microwave oven? How about the water softener machine? How about...Never mind. I guess when all I have after sixty years in power are copies of Soviet weaponry, and I struggled to copy them at that, instead of all the wonderful conveniences that people quickly take for granted, like a USB drive or the microwave oven, a parade is necessary.
 
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gambit, stop trolling.:devil: this thread is about pics in Beijing. If you really want to debate on communism pls don't hijack this thread but opening a new thread in some other section and see how many ppl willing to debate that with you over there.
On the contrary...This thread is a very appropriate place to challenge communism. When Democrats want to challenge Republicans, they do not go to a PETA gathering, correct?
 
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Boat People: A Refugee Crisis | CBC Archives
Refuge for the unwanted
Broadcast Date: Sept. 11, 1979

The lucky ones who survive the arduous journey over sea or land then begin an indeterminate stay at a refugee camp. On average, a refugee family spends 12 months in a camp, but some remain for years. In July 1979 there are over 350,000 refugees in crowded camps in Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Hong Kong and the Philippines. During this month, a CBC Television crew visits camps in Hong Kong and Malaysia to see what life is like there.

Hong Kong is considered to have the best refugee camps; Thailand, the worst. Somewhere in the middle of that continuum, Malaysia's main refugee camp, the island of Pulau Bidong, opened in 1975. Sponsored by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), it was originally built to contain 12,000 people. By November 1978, Pulau Bidong was housing more than twice that. And in early July 1979, there are 42,000 refugees crushed between its shores.
Refuge for the unwanted

• On Aug. 6, 1979, Canada began an around-the-clock airlift to carry Canadian food and medical supplies to refugees in Malaysian camps.
• A Boeing 707 left Canadian Forced Base Trenton every three days carrying eight tons of food and medical supplies to Hong Kong, from where it was transported to Malaysia.
• The plane stayed on the ground for ninety minutes — just long enough to load up with Vietnamese refugees bound for Canada.

• The Malaysian Red Crescent Society was responsible for the daily operations at the Pulau Bidong camp.
• Pulau Bidong was off-limits to locals, but local fishermen managed to smuggle goods to the refugees at greatly inflated prices.
• Some 250,000 refugees filtered through the camp between 1975 and 1991.
• A temple, a school, a church, a clinic, shops and a cemetery were eventually built.
• Pulau Bidong officially closed in 1991. The last Vietnamese was sent home in 1996.

• Camps in Thailand were considered the worst. They mainly housed refugees who had fled overland. Once in Thai camps, refugees were often robbed and raped by guards or other refugees.
• The refugee camps in Thailand had the most trouble because they did not permit international agencies like the United Nations or the Red Cross to operate there.
Refuge for the unwanted

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China is only sixty years old...!!! And people call Americans ignorant. Woudl someone, preferably of Chinese descent, give this guy a seriously needed clue.

"NEW" china is 60 years old, new china is what we called china after the end of the chinese civil war.


I have no problem admitting I am ignorant about the nature of this celebration. Care to enlighten me?

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now then prepared to be enlightened

So for the past sixty years under communist rule, what have China done other than adopt and adapt technologies, and from technologies not of her own creation at that, into 'weapons'? Whose fault is that? The Zionists again? No...Do not blame what the US does in Iraq or its incompetence that resulted in the Chinese embassy in Belgrade incident. Those are red herring arguments designed to distract from the real issue -- that despite a second to none ancient history in technology, nothing good came out of China for the past sixty years while under communist rule.
nothing good?
i will admit that the first 30 years was terrible but since then hundreds of millions are lifted out of poverty, the country is weathering the current financial crisis very well. the hard and soft power of the Chinese nation grows day by day, gdp percapita is also growing, now wealth disparity is becomming a issue, but there is no doubt that the average Chinese person is better off now than they were 30 years ago, one does not ask for a car when one has no pants.

adopt technologies into weapons?
its called national defense, china couldn't produce a truck in the old days let alone jets, they'll take what ever advantage they can get, be it copying stealing whatever, they take it if it mean deterring a nuclear power from taking advantages of the countries weakness(first the us then the ussr) now as time pass no one will dispute that more and more of the Chinese machines are made at home, be it a truck or a missile.

Belgrade incident?
the offical nato/us response is that the map they used were old, if ur telling me the most advance military in the world with satellites and surveillance crafts(not to mention total air control cannot get a reliable map(location of the Chinese embassy is not exactly a secrete) then what is it if its not incompetence?

The Chinese government was in bed with Saddam Hussein during the sanction years, just in case you did not know. And you are probably in no position to debate the 'WMD' issue with me, technical or else.
really? let draw a parallel, the US government was in bed with the Taliban during the 80's(soviet occupation) are you then as an American unable to debate to anyone about terrorism?


So what happened?

China and Japan were similar at the end of WW II. Japan was bombed very nearly back to the Stone Age with two of her cities were destroyed in the most terrifying mean yet known to mankind. But in the same time span that communism ruled over mainland China, Japan surpassed China to give the world one 'trace harness' after another. Same condition for Taiwan, the PRC's cousin. Look at those missiles and tanks and see how they shamed the original trace harness. That is what you are celebrating.

what happens?
Africa was the first place to be occupied by man, what happened to them?
mongols ruled the largest continuously land empire, what happened to them?
Romans ruled the Mediterranean sea had amazing art and buildings, invented concrete. what happened to them? just because one was at the top does not mean one will stay there.

you forget quite conviently

that japan and taiwan didn't suffer 30 years of instability(no making an excuse for the CCP shouldn't have happened) also US policy and aid for these countries was quite a bit easier going than for the mainland, wouldn't you agree? also last but definitely not least, the shear size difference between the comparisons throws off ur logic. there is not a single shred of evidence that any other form of government can do better in china, look at India, democratic, free press and all of the "good" qualities of a free nation. how do they compare to china(similar size population, time frame), are they any richer? do they make any more domestic weapons and technologies, are their average people better off than those in china?

Irrelevant. But if it matter, for the US it is Independence Day and for Viet Nam it is Reunification. The names is explanatory enough. So what exactly is the communists celebrating? It is a fair question.

what are they celebrating?
how about then end of a civil war that have claim the lives of millions,
the development from pleasant nation to 8% year on year growth,
the day the mainland(mostly) became whole again after civil war, invasion, civil war?
and of course the day the PRC or NEW china was created(good for the prc) and also ur not invited to celebrate if u didn't want to anyways why do you care what we celebrate.

Then educate me. You claim to be in China. Explain to my small mind what exactly is it that the communists are celebrating about and how does it symbolize the past greatness of China. What have China accomplished in comparison with Japan or Taiwan or South Korea, for example, that warrant a celebration? Calling those countries as 'US puppets' explains nothing about China and her accomplishments under communist rule.

what does the anniversary symbolize and celebrated?
it symbolizes a return to the glory of the olden days, a return to greatness once achieved by the people of the Chinese nation, after centuries of western oppression, decades of war, years of growth, china today hold more international clout than anytime in the past 150 years at least(likely longer than that).
need more?
maybe you should have watched more than the military display as directly afterward there is a civilian display(floats) showing not just the minority and other things like that but also highlights the development of the nation and other civilain things they are celebrating, everything from bullet train, to sports, to the space program.
in comparison with japan taiwan south korea?
when did the communist government of china compare it self to anyone during is anniversary? they know they are behind in terms of technology, gpd per capita and such area, but again as u conveniently forget there is a lot more people in the main land to make rich than there are in the those 3 countries. will you deny that there was great progress made? there was great progress made, we celebrate what we have done and vow to do more.
 
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PRC had no choice when it inherited a poor China from US supported KMT.
That is a gross distortion of history. Both Mao and Chiang Kai Shek were supported by the US.

Amazon.com: Retribution: The Battle for Japan, 1944-45 (9780307263513): Max Hastings: Books
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Mao's War

Today, the myth of Communist dominance of the struggle against the occupiers is discredited even in China. If Chiang Kai-shek's armies less than effective on the battlefield, Mao Zedong's guerrillas lacked either the will or the combat power to do more than irritate the Japanese. By 1944, 70 percent of Japan's forces in China were committed against the Nationalists. A staff officer at Japan's army headquarters in Nanjing, Maj. Shigeru Funaki, said: "The Communists operated in regions that were strategically unimportant to us. Their troops were much more motivated than the Nationalists, but we sought only to contain them. Our attention was overwhelmingly concentrated on confronting Chiang's forces further south."

"The Communists were not strong enough to offer a major challenge to the Japanese occupation," says a modern Chinese historian, Yang Jinghua. "In the anti-Japanese war, the Kuomintang did most of the fighting, and killed far more of the enemy -- I say this, as a Communist Party member for thirty years. Statistics tells the story. Some 1,200 KMT generals died fighting the Japanese, against just ten Communist ones."
Mao did not 'inherit' anything from the US-KMT alliance.
The war policies of Chiang and Mao had this much in common: each sought to strengthen his own power base, rather than to assist in the defeat of the Japanese. By a notable irony Mao, whose efforts to gain American support failed, profited vastly more from the conflict than Chiang, who received billions in aid, together with the wholehearted endorsement of the greatest power on earth. Mao used the war years to build popular support among the peasantry of a kind which the Nationalists never achieved. Communist forces developed a motivation, comradeship and sense of shared purpose quite unknown in Chiang Kai-shek's army.
There were plenty of US officials, military and diplomats, who were sympathetic to Mao and his popular power base among the ordinary people, despite them knowing that it was largely the Nationalists who did most of the fighting against Imperial Japan.
Mao pleaded for American amphibious landings on the coast of northern China, to open a direct supply route to Yan'an. So eager were the Communists for aid that Zhou Enlai, while acting as Mao's emissary in Chongquing, told Service they were willing to place their troops under American command if the U.S. would arm them. Service, impressed and even entranced, formally recommended to Stilwell that weapons should be sent to the Communists. The general was not unsympathetic.
After WW II, it became a civil war between Mao and Chiang Kai-shek for control, not overthrow of the other, for China. If Mao 'inherit' anything, it was of China's condition that predated WW II, not because of the US installed KMT. Yours is a sad desperate attempt to rehabilitate the PRC's image at the expense of truth.

In contrast, India, with the same poorness in the begin, with a your-fancy democratic system, still has choices to keep its people in poverty. Isn’t US-pushed democracy more evil than communism, in that it event not “give minimum stewardship to those whom they lord over”?
What an absurd argument, also flies in the face of reality to boot. The US, Canada and even Mexico are reasonably democratic. So is Europe. So what make India's problems with democracy different than our stable ones? How about social forces that simply overwhelmed much of India's democratic mechanism? And since when is it a guarantee that poverty is eliminated in a functional democracy? I thought that the elimination of poverty is the reason why communism should be installed and by force if necessary. But odd that to date there is not one prosperous communist country.

Lifting huge portion of poor of the world from poverty, isn’t it contributing to the world, beyond PRC border?
No it does not.

“One country, two systems” avoids wars and keeps peace and wealth, and lets different systems compete peacefully (Yeah, you'll loose your job if the whole world is like that), isn’t it contributing to the world, beyond PRC border?
Har...And when that other system reared its head in the very square of this parade, the PRC lopped it off toot-sweet. The communists know they will lose their jobs if ideas from that other system got out of that 'special administrative region'.

On barbequing human flesh, right, democratic US soldiers barbeque Iraqi human flesh in hundreds of thousands, if not in millions
Good...By this equation, we can say that what the Red Guards did in the name of communism against their fellow Chinese, it constitute a war.
 
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