PIA plane crash near Model Colony Karachi with 93+ on board

[Maarkhoor]

CAA-- air side dept, today...23/05/2020 did inspection of runway, they found skids of engine, at 5500m. and also 6500 m
2 times, --------- run way is about 1100m.
so the plane tried to belly land 2 times already, but its belly didnt touch ground?
while 3rd attempt was fatal..

Bro one time only they tried without opening the landing gears first they touch 5500 but engines hit the runway and jet bounced back and again fell on runway 6500m then pilot/s decided to take off "which was fatal mistake"and later due to damage engines losing thrust again fatal mistake they opened landing gear which further increase drag putt more pressure on dying engines and ultimately engines failed and plane stalled.
It was a series of mistake by pilot/s.

Question is why was pilot not aware that landing gear is not down?

Systems shud have alarmed far before touch down.

System informed but they ignored it.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Hi,

Calm my ---- pilot had no clue the catastrophe the plane had faced---.

Looks like the Pilot was FASTING---he might have had a low sugar condition---.

This here is a 9000 foot runway---pilot tries to land at 4500 foot marker whereas the total runway length is 9000 ft---that is the first place where the body of the aircraft touches the ground---.

A pilot in a normal condition would not do that---. Frigging pakistani Co-Pilots act as if they are the personal slaves of the Captain---never bothers to question the authority of the Captain evem knowing the captain is suicidal---typical Yessir pakistani mentality---.

That is why I hate when someone calls me SIR---.

Same thing happened with the Air Blue aircraft---the co pilot kept saying sir sir sir---and allowed the captain to smash the aircraft into the islamabad mountainside---.

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The wheels down once the engines shutoff was a death sentence to the aircraft---.

Pilots should be BANNED from Fasting regardless of whether or not this pilot was. That is v.v. dangerous when split second decisions need to be made...

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Atleast grow some IQ and hide your foolishness imbecile...
Safety parameters are pre set in aviation... They doesn't depend on how you interpret them....

Quote me only if you have a point...

You are very funny yet stupid you Indian turd.

First and foremost, there are just few street or blocks which comes direct in the flight path of Karachi airport landing path. This region of Karachi is literally the edge of city settlements.

Before you open your mouth about why the Pakistani planner allowed this to happen, just watch this. This is your bloody Bombay airport landing.

Delhi:

Calcutta:

So before you open your gob, do some research.

 

[Mrc]

Bro one time only they tried without opening the landing gears first they touch 5500 but engines hit the runway and jet bounced back and again fell on runway 6500m then pilot/s decided to take off "which was fatal mistake"and later due to damage engines losing thrust again fatal mistake they opened landing gear which further increase drag putt more pressure on dying engines and ultimately engines failed and plane stalled.
It was a series of mistake by pilot/s.


System informed but they ignored it.

Yes I have realised that

 

[Safriz]

The Capt did not inform the controller regarding landing gear failure on his first approach.

Because there was none.

Question is why was pilot not aware that landing gear is not down?

Systems shud have alarmed far before touch down.

Although it's highly unlikely that pilot forgot to deploy landing gear but there's no such warning system in existence.
Pilots are supposed to be prudent enough not to land without landing gear .

 

[Maarkhoor]

Although it's highly unlikely that pilot forgot to deploy landing gear but there's no such warning system in existence.
Pilots are supposed to be prudent enough not to land without landing gear .

As per call records pilot did not took action after landing gears not deployed even warning sings and sounds......as I assumed both pilots have roza / fasting....sugar level down "that is why most air forces have rule to eat candies, chocolate bars or sweets before flight".....

human error...

case closed...

 

[Safriz]

پاکستان رینجرزکی جانب سے کراچی کے علاقے ماڈل کالونی میں طیارہ حادثے کے بعد تباہ شدہ جہاز کے ملبے سے ملنے والے تمام سامان کو پی آئی اے حکام کے حوالے کر دیا گیا۔ سندھ رینجرز
۲۔ جائے حادثے سے ملنے والے تمام سامان کو رینجرز ہیڈ کوارٹرزجامعہ ملیہ کالج کراچی میں پی آئی اے حکام کے حوالے کیا گیا۔ سندھ رینجرز
۳۔ جائے حادثے سے بر آمد شدہ سامان میں موبائل فونز، لیپ ٹاپ، آئی فون، الیکٹرانک آئٹمز، گولڈ اور آرٹیفیشل جیولری، مختلف اقسام کی گھریلواشیاء، ہینڈ بیگز، سفری بیگز، لیڈیز اور جینٹس پرس، پاسپورٹس اور قیمتی اشیاء شامل۔ سندھ رینجرز
۴۔ بر آمد شدہ سامان میں 3 کروڑ 24 ہزار 300 جلی ہوئی پاکستانی کرنسی جب کہ نقدی رقم (16 لاکھ 67 ہزار692 روپے پاکستانی کرنسی، 70 پاؤنڈز اور 625 ڈالرز غیر ملکی کرنسی شامل ہے۔ سندھ رینجرز
۵۔ پی آئی اے حکام نے ریسکیو آپریشن میں رینجرز کی جانب سے کیے جانے والے اقدامات کو سراہاتے ہوئے خراجِ تحسین پیش کیا۔ سندھ رینجرز
۶۔ پی آئی اے حکام کو حوالے کیے گئے برآمد شدہ سامان کی تفصیلات بھی جاری کی جارہی ہیں. سندھ رینجرز
#خانہ_بدوش

 

[Fawadqasim1]

we should not jump the gun let's wait for the results of the analysis of the flight data recorder.

 

[Enigma SIG]

As per call records pilot did not took action after landing gears not deployed even warning sings and sounds......as I assumed both pilots have roza / fasting....sugar level down "that is why most air forces have rule to eat candies, chocolate bars or sweets before flight".....

human error...

case closed...

Sarcastic much? 2 pilots in the cockpit making the same mistake? For both of them to actually miss the landing gear not deployed warning has a statistical possibility bordering on 1 in a billion. The ECAM displays a L/G NOT DOWN warning after passing 750ft and for both pilots to miss it is either monumental stupidity or that it didn't happen in the first place.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Watch this movie it's a classic

Sarcastic much? 2 pilots in the cockpit making the same mistake? For both of them to actually miss the landing gear not deployed warning has a statistical possibility bordering on 1 in a billion. The ECAM displays a L/G NOT DOWN warning after passing 750ft and for both pilots to miss it is either monumental stupidity or that it didn't happen in the first place.

Most likely it didn't

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

As per call records pilot did not took action after landing gears not deployed even warning sings and sounds......as I assumed both pilots have roza / fasting....sugar level down "that is why most air forces have rule to eat candies, chocolate bars or sweets before flight".....

human error...

case closed...

That is how they are trying to twist the case from a failure of Tower to visually see the aircraft then call according to sop. "Check gears down and locked clear land"

In Fact it seems like the aircraft was not handed over to tower but was being controlled by ATC controller in a different location monitoring only on radar. This can only be proved correct if we get a an international impartial experts who are not from Pakistan AIRFORCE or CIvil Aviation.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

it seems as if it did not deploy and it did not warn

And the Tower failed to Warn them too it was a perfect storm

 

[Safriz]

Sarcastic much? 2 pilots in the cockpit making the same mistake? For both of them to actually miss the landing gear not deployed warning has a statistical possibility bordering on 1 in a billion. The ECAM displays a L/G NOT DOWN warning after passing 750ft and for both pilots to miss it is either monumental stupidity or that it didn't happen in the first place.

There is no such thing as "Landing gear not deployed" warning.
But that simply doesn't happen that pilots forget to deploy landing gear.
Pilot touched down runway at 4500 feet mark on a runway which is 9000 feet long.
That means they had only 4500 feet until the end of ranway.
For A320 the minimum stopping distance on landing with normal load and speed in 4500 feet.
So the pilot was already short of landing space on first approach, and had to try and go round.
That was the mistake which led to other things and it all went horribly wrong.
(Read the above as opinion as we should wait for official investigation to conclude)

 

[Fawadqasim1]

There is no such thing as "Landing gear not deployed" warning.
But that simply doesn't happen that pilots forget to deploy landing gear.
Pilot touched down runway at 4500 feet mark on a runway which is 9000 feet long.
That means they had only 4500 feet until the end of ranway.
For A320 the minimum stopping distance on landing with normal load and speed in 4500 feet.
So the pilot was already short of landing space on first approach, and had to try and go round.
That was the mistake which led to other things and it all went horribly wrong.
(Read the above as opinion as we should wait for official investigation to conclude)

And what about the control tower

audi alteram partem or or there was something seriously wrong with the flight control system i.e avionics sensors computer of this aircraft the pilots relied on it and it led them astray it was a perfect storm it happens and its not uncommon in air accidents.

 

[Imran Khan]

Because there was none.


Although it's highly unlikely that pilot forgot to deploy landing gear but there's no such warning system in existence.
Pilots are supposed to be prudent enough not to land without landing gear .

there is warning system of landing gear sir .since long time ago .