Pentagon warns India of Chinese Build Up

[Zabaniyah]

Which is why China wisely chose to purchase the hull of the Varyag in order to study it. They are using this knowledge to construct 2 more massive carriers as we speak. Then onto the US-style nuclear supercarriers.

It will take China time to master the art of carrier warfare but master it they shall. In around 10-15 years they should be fairly proficient.

Russia versus China? China has more money and brains. It is as simple as that.

Russia is still more advanced nonetheless. Ever heard of the Typhoon Class submarine? It is scary stuff.

They have many other resources other than oil and gas.

Many of the AWACS they use are of Russian origin.

But yes, overall, the Chinese economy is more powerful and growing.

There was once a Soviet-Sino war. It didn't go well for the Chinese.

 

[HZR2011]

FACT 1: China is 4 times richer than Russia.

FACT 2: China is growing it's GDP twice as fast as Russia.

FACT 3: Russia will be almost a 3rd world country without oil and gas.

FACT 4: Russia has almost no top-class civilian technology.

FACT 5: China is on par with Russia when it comes to military technology like tanks, howitzers, missiles(including ICBMs).

FACT 6: China is on par with Russia when it comes to dieself submarines

FACT 7: China leads Russia when it comes to destroyers and AWACS.


Howerver China is behind Russia in the following key areas of technology: jet engines and nuclear SSNs.

But China has much more money and brains that it can throw at any problem than Russia ever could. Hence we can logically assume that China will catch up in the not too-distant future when it comes to these areas.

FACT: Russia pales in comparison to China that is turning itself into a fully fledged superpower.

+TSAR ANd Typhoon ....
And Russian were the first to send man n satellite to space my friend...

And by the way Russia has big bio gas reserves.... and they are growing too...and ur boasting of chineese tech?? Then why did they copy the Su-27 aircraft????

 

[sancho]

Russia being more powerful than China?

Where are Russia's carriers? China is already testing the Varyag that will be far more capable than any Russia carrier currently deloployed. Credible reports are also talking about 2 70,000 tonne+ conventional carriers being constructed that will be able to carry around 70 aircraft each. Other reports speak of 2 100,000+ nuclear supercarriers that will be ready by 2020.

How many independent economic analysts have predicted China overtaking the US to be the largest economy in the world by 2020? Too many for sure.

Anyone who thinks that China won't build a military that will be able to defend it's economic interests around the world surely does not understand geopolitics.

Russia is not match for the Chinese, only the US is.

Again one that confuses the advantage of China in terms of economy, with an advantage in military power!
China is catching up with it's economical growth, but as long as they have not the same number of fighters, subs, carriers or tanks, they are not as capable as Russia in military terms. Russia has an operational carrier and operated carriers for decades. China is refurbishing an Russian designed carrier at the moment and developing a copy of a Russian carrier fighter, not to mention that they lack the experience in operating both. PLAN will still need years to get to the point wher RN is now with their carriers and fighters and the same can be said about the other forces.

In regard of defence developments China is highly dependent on foreign input as well, because most of their fighter designs are based on Russian (J10 based on Israeli) fighters, just like many techs are similar, but not as capable yet. China for example was able to develop J11, but still struggle to get a similar engine like the AL 31s, while Russia has already upgraded versions, with TVC and SC capabilities operational and the NG engine development are on it's way again.
Another example is the radar field, where China has nothing comparable to the BARS, or IRBIS radars of the MKI/MKM, or Su 35 right?
Btw, you mentioned that China is ahead in the AWACS field. How, when their main AWACS aircraft is based on the Russian A50 and the Russian radar techs?

So more money to spend does not automatically mean that they are on par with Russia that has decades of experience and know how. China needs the higher spending to catch up first, but it's obvious that sooner or later they will take over the Russians and will even compete with the US. That's why the US is concerned and tries everything to counter that, be it with less access to western arms and techs, or with new allies like India. The problem is only, they were against us for a long time and we are not dependent on them like Israel, Japan, or S. Korea. If they want more from us, they have to give more first and the rejection of their fighters in MMRCA was a clear sign for that.

 

[UKBengali]

Russia is still more advanced nonetheless. Ever heard of the Typhoon Class submarine? It is scary stuff.

They have many other resources other than oil and gas.

Many of the AWACS they use are of Russian origin.

But yes, overall, the Chinese economy is more powerful and growing.

There was once a Soviet-Sino war. It didn't go well for the Chinese.

Which is why I have already admitted that Russia leads China in nuclear submarines.

AWACS of Russian origin? The A-50 aircraft maybe but the radar itself is an indigenous Chinese AESA.

Sino-Soviet War from 1969? The Chinese were much weaker then and the Russians were then the mightly Soviet Union

 

[lem34]

Dont forget the thread guys americans interfering or advising indians. Oh it would just happen to be in american interest if india and china had a war. What a surprise the americans advise india if india takes notice and acts it benefits americans. Dont wever trust american liars

 

[Executioner]

Don't India know very well what we have do and there is no reason to fight with China. Thank you for your advised America, we are capable to mange any uncertain situation. You can advised our neighbor country who take a serious action. Cheers.

 

[lem34]

Don't India know very well what we have do and there is no reason to fight with China. Thank you for your advised America, we are capable to mange any uncertain situation. You can advised our neighbor country who take a serious action. Cheers.

No thanks we have had our lot and we dont want Baxxx americans you can have them. They put you off isi pipeline, they advise you on hazare and now they telling you what to do about china.

 

[Assange]

As much i hate to admit it brother, we are in no shape to fight india at this moment. once we get rid of these stupid polictians. we will rise again inshallah

Thanks for supporting me bro. people need to think just speaking with patriotism does not help our country. we also need to think intelligently so sorry I will be posting these kinds of comments until our nation becomes stronger and self sufficient

 

[Executioner]

He can give advised to anyone even we can give advised to each other, its sort of free will, But the point is who is going take it and implement with action. Yes, they given the advised in Anna case, so what it does not matter with us, we already stick with Anna from beginning if you want you can see the project quality and quantity in Indian, Matter of fact you see the result Anna wins today. So we know very well what is difference between in "advised" and "command", right now we well aware who is under in command or who is following advised, who is taking now. The result is front of you.

 

[lem34]

He can give advised to anyone even we can give advised to each other, its sort of free will, But the point is who is going take it and implement with action. Yes, they given the advised in Anna case, so what it does not matter with us, we already stick with Anna from beginning if you want you can see the project quality and quantity in Indian, Matter of fact you see the result Anna wins today. So we know very well what is difference between in "advised" and "command", right now we well aware who is under in command or who is following advised, who is taking now. The result is front of you.

If pakistan was under command my freind you would not see so much anti pakistan, army ISI propaganda coming out of america

 

[Screambowl]

it is an invitation to join Americans in Taiwan crisis. More like an invitation to hell.

 

[lem34]

it is an invitation to join Americans in Taiwan crisis. More like an invitation to hell.

India would do well and learn a lesson from our experience and keep the americans at arms length

 

[Executioner]

If pakistan was under command my freind you would not see so much anti pakistan, army ISI propaganda coming out of america

We are not taking advised from them and not any order in any affairs. We do whatever is best and good for our country and I believe all or most of the country do same thing, we always maintain a distance in the diplomatic relationship with any others, we are neutral when America given a suggestion on Anna protest but if you see there was not like order or any taunting or any type of vulgar comments really you check it. And regarding anti Pakistan and army ISI propaganda it geo politics and your business to enhance it and depend upon your country how to going to manage it, It's your invited mess and only you can clean it.

India would do well and learn a lesson from our experience and keep the americans at arms length

Don't worry we are well aware, it's a time for you to learn a lesson from your experiences and you have long term relationship with America from the beginning in context of Arm dealing and other business development which is not worked properly for you people.

 

[lem34]

We are not taking advised from them and not any order in any affairs. We do whatever is best and good for our country and I believe all or most of the country do same thing, we always maintain a distance in the diplomatic relationship with any others, we are neutral when America given a suggestion on Anna protest but if you see there was not like order or any taunting or any type of vulgar comments really you check it. And regarding anti Pakistan and army ISI propaganda it geo politics and your business to enhance it and depend upon your country how to going to manage it, It's your invited mess and only you can clean it.




Don't worry we are well aware, it's a time for you to learn a lesson from your experiences and you have long term relationship with America from the beginning in context of Arm dealing and other business development which is not worked properly for you people.

No 85% plus pakistanis dislike americans. its our corrupt leadership because america bribes them

 

[Executioner]

No 85% plus pakistanis dislike americans. its our corrupt leadership because america bribes them

I think the bilateral relationship has been establish from the beginning by Jinnah approaching towards pro-western policy and Pakistan was seeking strong alliances to counter its neighbor, India. No was bribes accepted that time.