Pentagon warns India of Chinese Build Up

[Imran Khan]

pentagon getting so funny these days lolz india china are more close here and can see each other better then some stupids sitting 12000km away

 

[UKBengali]

Lol @ the above.

What might i ask, are you basing your "assumptions" on? You know, anyone can conjure claims out of their as.s. What it lacks is, credibility.

FACT 1: China is 4 times richer than Russia.

FACT 2: China is growing it's GDP twice as fast as Russia.

FACT 3: Russia will be almost a 3rd world country without oil and gas.

FACT 4: Russia has almost no top-class civilian technology.

FACT 5: China is on par with Russia when it comes to military technology like tanks, howitzers, missiles(including ICBMs).

FACT 6: China is on par with Russia when it comes to dieself submarines

FACT 7: China leads Russia when it comes to destroyers and AWACS.


Howerver China is behind Russia in the following key areas of technology: jet engines and nuclear SSNs.

But China has much more money and brains that it can throw at any problem than Russia ever could. Hence we can logically assume that China will catch up in the not too-distant future when it comes to these areas.

FACT: Russia pales in comparison to China that is turning itself into a fully fledged superpower.

 

[sarthak]

FACT 1: China is 4 times richer than Russia.

FACT 2: China is growing it's GDP twice as fast as Russia.

FACT 3: Russia will be almost a 3rd world country without oil and gas.

FACT 4: Russia has almost no top-class civilian technology.

FACT 5: China is on par with Russia when it comes to military technology like tanks, howitzers, missiles(including ICBMs).

FACT 6: China is on par with Russia when it comes to dieself submarines

FACT 7: China leads Russia when it comes to destroyers and AWACS.


Howerver China is behind Russia in the following key areas of technology: jet engines and nuclear SSNs.

But China has much more money and brains that it can throw at any problem than Russia ever could. Hence we can logically assume that China will catch up in the not too-distant future when it comes to these areas.

FACT: Russia pales in comparison to China that is turning itself into a fully fledged superpower.

Don't they teach you international Geography in your country? Russia has one of the biggest reserves of Oil and Gas and entire eastern Europe is dependent on them. And China at par with Russia in military technology when almost their entire arsenal is a copy of Russian weapons? Please spend your time at the Bangladesh Defense Section. Atleast then you don't need to have knowledge of the real world. You can discuss all you like , RAW doing this , RAW doing that etc

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Don't they teach you international Geography in your country? Russia has one of the biggest reserves of Oil and Gas and entire eastern Europe is dependent on them. And China at par with Russia in military technology when almost their entire arsenal is a copy of Russian weapons? Please spend your time at the Bangladesh Defense Section. Atleast then you don't need to have knowledge of the real world. You can discuss all you like , RAW doing this , RAW doing that etc

Yes Russia is so big that ~70% of India military harwares are originated from it...tell us how many spares parts India still need? maybe China can make a cheap copy from it...that IAF desperately need. by the way UKBengali entitle to his opinion

 

[Quick MIK]

pentagon getting so funny these days lolz india china are more close here and can see each other better then some stupids sitting 12000km away

Dont underestimate their spy satellites.Sometimes they see what others dont

 

[Quick MIK]

FACT 1: China is 4 times richer than Russia.

FACT 2: China is growing it's GDP twice as fast as Russia.

FACT 3: Russia will be almost a 3rd world country without oil and gas.

FACT 4: Russia has almost no top-class civilian technology.

FACT 5: China is on par with Russia when it comes to military technology like tanks, howitzers, missiles(including ICBMs).

FACT 6: China is on par with Russia when it comes to dieself submarines

FACT 7: China leads Russia when it comes to destroyers and AWACS.


Howerver China is behind Russia in the following key areas of technology: jet engines and nuclear SSNs.

But China has much more money and brains that it can throw at any problem than Russia ever could. Hence we can logically assume that China will catch up in the not too-distant future when it comes to these areas.

FACT: Russia pales in comparison to China that is turning itself into a fully fledged superpower.

Some facts & some tall claims.

 

[jeypore]

Pentagon is showing own insecurities

The Link is just another Blog/opinion, yet the discussion goes on without any hard facts. A good example is this, A great member of this forum that really speaks the Truth..........

 

[sarthak]

Yes Russia is so big that ~70% of India military harwares are originated from it...tell us how many spares parts India still need? maybe China can make a cheap copy from it...that IAF desperately need. by the way UKBengali entitle to his opinion

Russian said China copy weapons at an alarming rate, advanced missiles in only five years | WAREYE
Russia shows concern over Chinese weapons piracy | Features & Opinion | RIA Novosti
China Clones, Sells Russian Fighter Jets - WSJ.com
Chinese version of Russian jet endangers bilateral relations — RT Comments
China to conquer world arms market with poor quality rip-offs - English pravda.ru

Now please give me links that say india copies russian weapons. Non defense.pk pages only

Nuff Said. Oh yes , UKBengali is totally entitled to his own opinions , even though they may be as ridiculous as Russia being left without oil and gas even though it supplies the entire eastern europe.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Russian said China copy weapons at an alarming rate, advanced missiles in only five years | WAREYE
Russia shows concern over Chinese weapons piracy | Features & Opinion | RIA Novosti
China Clones, Sells Russian Fighter Jets - WSJ.com
Chinese version of Russian jet endangers bilateral relations — RT Comments
China to conquer world arms market with poor quality rip-offs - English pravda.ru

Now please give me links that say india copies russian weapons. Non defense.pk pages only

Nuff Said. Oh yes , UKBengali is totally entitled to his own opinions , even though they may be as ridiculous as Russia being left without oil and gas even though it supplies the entire eastern europe.

Dude, i have never said that India copy Russian weapons, I just said that ~70% military hadware are from Russia. If Russia knows how to use he's Oil and gaz efficiently during the Soviet time....there is no such thing as Banckrupcy to U.S.S.R...so what is your point to have huge country with alot of oil and gaz if you don't even know how to manage during the critical time you need the most.

...and yes China copy Russia's weapon...the entire world know, we don't have the shame to admit it...

 

[UKBengali]

Russian said China copy weapons at an alarming rate, advanced missiles in only five years | WAREYE
Russia shows concern over Chinese weapons piracy | Features & Opinion | RIA Novosti
China Clones, Sells Russian Fighter Jets - WSJ.com
Chinese version of Russian jet endangers bilateral relations — RT Comments
China to conquer world arms market with poor quality rip-offs - English pravda.ru

Now please give me links that say india copies russian weapons. Non defense.pk pages only

Nuff Said. Oh yes , UKBengali is totally entitled to his own opinions , even though they may be as ridiculous as Russia being left without oil and gas even though it supplies the entire eastern europe.

I think you misunderstood my point about Russian oil and gas.

What I meant was that the Russian economy is far too dependent on oil and gas. It's wealth is almost totally dependent on this natural resource. Of course, with upwards of 60 billion barrels of oil and well over a trillion cubic feet of gas then Russian will not even have to worry about it's energy resoucres running out for a few decades at least.


Russia industry is almost totally military-based. there is very little civilian technology to speak of. China is building an economy that is broad-based, both civilian and military. As well as developing top of the range weapons such as J-20, it has also invested heavily in civilian technologies such as trains and electronics.


Russia being more powerful than China?

Where are Russia's carriers? China is already testing the Varyag that will be far more capable than any Russia carrier currently deloployed. Credible reports are also talking about 2 70,000 tonne+ conventional carriers being constructed that will be able to carry around 70 aircraft each. Other reports speak of 2 100,000+ nuclear supercarriers that will be ready by 2020.

How many independent economic analysts have predicted China overtaking the US to be the largest economy in the world by 2020? Too many for sure.

Anyone who thinks that China won't build a military that will be able to defend it's economic interests around the world surely does not understand geopolitics.

Russia is not match for the Chinese, only the US is.

 

[baker]

^^ you re measuring strength in means of carriers....? russian missile technology is world calss and even US cant match with that...

 

[peep]

I am amazed by how many people are just stung by the chinese bug. I bet they are the future uk/britain equivalent of US for China.

Having an independent foreign policy and not sucking it up to any present world power or future world power is what makes a country count as a responsible player in world forum.

 

[Yeti]

Dude, i have never said that India copy Russian weapons, I just said that ~70% military hadware are from Russia. If Russia knows how to use he's Oil and gaz efficiently during the Soviet time....there is no such thing as Banckrupcy to U.S.S.R...so what is your point to have huge country with alot of oil and gaz if you don't even know how to manage during the critical time you need the most.

...and yes China copy Russia's weapon...the entire world know, we don't have the shame to admit it...

70% of hardware is imported not all of it is from Russia but a vast amount is.

 

[Yeti]

I think you misunderstood my point about Russian oil and gas.

What I meant was that the Russian economy is far too dependent on oil and gas. It's wealth is almost totally dependent on this natural resource. Of course, with upwards of 60 billion barrels of oil and well over a trillion cubic feet of gas then Russian will not even have to worry about it's energy resoucres running out for a few decades at least.


Russia industry is almost totally military-based. there is very little civilian technology to speak of. China is building an economy that is broad-based, both civilian and military. As well as developing top of the range weapons such as J-20, it has also invested heavily in civilian technologies such as trains and electronics.


Russia being more powerful than China?

Where are Russia's carriers? China is already testing the Varyag that will be far more capable than any Russia carrier currently deloployed. Credible reports are also talking about 2 70,000 tonne+ conventional carriers being constructed that will be able to carry around 70 aircraft each. Other reports speak of 2 100,000+ nuclear supercarriers that will be ready by 2020.

How many independent economic analysts have predicted China overtaking the US to be the largest economy in the world by 2020? Too many for sure.

Anyone who thinks that China won't build a military that will be able to defend it's economic interests around the world surely does not understand geopolitics.

Russia is not match for the Chinese, only the US is.

You do know China bought that Carrier from Russia? China has no experiance in using aircraft carriers

 

[UKBengali]

You do know China bought that Carrier from Russia? China has no experiance in using aircraft carriers

Which is why China wisely chose to purchase the hull of the Varyag in order to study it. They are using this knowledge to construct 2 more massive carriers as we speak. Then onto the US-style nuclear supercarriers.

It will take China time to master the art of carrier warfare but master it they shall. In around 10-15 years they should be fairly proficient.

Russia versus China? China has more money and brains. It is as simple as that.