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That is where you get it wrong. If you look at that thread, neither me, nor desert Fox nor any other pakistani or any member insulted you other than offering their constructive criticism. If you cannot take constructive criticism why are you on a forum then? This is a forum for criticizing and appreciating other country's works and achievements.

I also criticise the puppet govt. of pakistan, no pakistani members feel insulted like you at that? Truly my intention was not to deliberately slander or insult the Arabs. But if it means I cannot offer even a constructive criticism about Arab's weapon purchases then what is the point of the forum?

I can assureyou members like Blackeagle and some others insulted and ushered personal attacks on me and others who hold the same point of view. But I just ignored them and did not feel insulted at all.

I stayed silent until this was said:
For KSA incompetent leadership , this is a correct decision a) what ever USA advises them is complete truth (buy more) - these idiots even have AWACs for heavens sake and b) The spectre of IRAN

Just as an FYI , poor Candians cannot even buy 10 F-35 , please see the brewing scandal below

Auditor General Michael Ferguson reported that the government initially estimated it would cost $25 billion to buy and operate 65 F-35 planes over 20 years. But the Department of National Defence later claimed this would come in at under $15 billion.

During the 2011 election campaign, Harper repeatedly claimed that the program would cost $16 billion, even though the parliamentary budget officer, Kevin Page, had pegged the price at $29 billion.

And you THANKED him. If you think we will tolerate being called idiots under the guise of "Peace thread" You can think again.
 
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Look, you can insult my ethnicity, nationality, people, country...etc and I could let it go. But I can't forget nor forgive a Sunni Muslim calling Syrian martyrs and FSA terrorists. You don't need to clarify anything here, I read many of your posts and you made your points clear. I think I haven't insulted you since I decided to ignore you and I even urged my brothers here to ignore your posts. You are free to write whatever you want but don't expect a reply.

You obviously should therefore avoid the peace thread.
 
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If you don't like me to express my opinion in the forum then all I can say is: :)

My friend, Nothing will get burnt, I just don't bother what you write or post. I said your free to write whatever you want but don't wait a reply. I may or may not reply to posts here, I will ask my brothers to do so.
 
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You obviously should therefore avoid the peace thread.

I genuinely approached them with peace. I even apologized to Mosamania over any possible insults I made towards Arabs before and became friends. Our conversations are testimony to that. Genuinely disgusted to get this kind of reaction in return from KSA members here. :bad: :confused:


Anyway it looks like they cannot stand even slightest criticism against KSA/Arabs at all. That's something I did not notice in non-KSA members in PDF. :tup:
 
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I am making this thread myself however this is a joint thread made by me, mosamania, aryan b and all the other members who are sick and tired of seeing us brother fighting.

our real enemies would love watching us do this, a lot of sunni have hate towards shia and vice verca, but why? I am not religous right now but I was in Iran and I was a muslim. a never there did I hear a single word about sunni v shia. that is being created to create hate between us.

our friend mosamania who alot of people think as a hater of Iran and shia is actually someone who donated money for the Iranian earthquake victim and he makes comment in anger sometimes like I do.

like using words like wahabi.

anger makes people do things they regret very badly, so lets not let it seperate us any more.
we need to make sure small things don't make us hate each other. because what we say here to each other makes a big difference, for example I might make someone hate me here because of my word, imagine what happend if that guy become a president or a king of that country and those hating words are something he will judge us by.

I made it very clear that me,mosa will do our best to stop this hate but you have to do your part as well.

look at europe, they are united even though they hate their differences so why can't we?

Mods please make this a sticky thread.

I would love nothing more than peace and quite. I extend my hand in friendship to all Iranians here and will call you brothers. I hope this feeling is mutual.

Just to refresh the things in the thread. :tup: :tup: :tup:
 
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im in if some sunni bothers here can count us shias muslim.

I am Sunni and you are our brothers. You are welcome. If you recite kalima and believe in the one Allah you are Muslim.

Pakistan's founder Quaid-e-Azam who we adore was a Shia
 
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The source of the fighting is political not religious. It is about Pro-Ummayad and Anti-Ummayads that is all something that happened 1360 years ago.

Also NEVER EVER EVER use the term Wahhabi and I say this to everybody the term Wahhabi is considered extremely offensive to us just like the term "Rafidhi" is offensive to you. And I called once and again for the forum to put rules on it and not allow it to be used however it is used openly here in a disgusting manner.

mossa please can I suggest we leave this or start another thread. This is a peace thread lets leave it at that
 
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I agree with you but I suggest we take this to another thread if you guys want to discuss this

Its alright, they would still live in denial.

However for my part in peace, I would like to say that I respect everyone for humanity. In case of Muslims, I respect each and everyone who declares their faith in God with no discrimination, be it sunnis, salafis, sufis, shias or any other sect. In my real life i myself don't identify myself as a Shia or Sunni but just a person who follows Islam.

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Sure, my experiences here with Saudis have not been very pleasant but I still respect them as our prophet Mohammed (pbuh) was from present day Arabia. Otherwise, I don't have any problem with either Iran or Turkey. I respect Iran for its self sufficiency despite sanctions and international curtailment. I respect Turkey for its secular Islamic model and have deep respect for AKP party which seems to be successfully combating both liberal and religious extremism. I wish them all the best and may all prosper inshallah.:tup:
 
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Good job brother Nice initiative for a thread. United we stand strong, scattered and divided we are easily picked by the hyenas. We shouldn't let the hyenas seperate and create hatred among us.
Respect, tolerance, honesty, acceptance and unity. Once we take these to our selves, no force on earth other than Allah can effect the Muslim world.

Egypt, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia. We have everything: oil, technology, raw materials, agriculture, industry, manpower.

Turkey
Turkey is the Muslims worlds’ largest economy and the world’s 16
th
largest economy. It has growninto an $800 billion economy and seen spectacular growth after an economic crisis in 2001 broughtthe economy to its knees. Today Turkey is considered part of the elite G20 group and seen as adeveloped nation.
Geologically complex, Turkey possesses some of the richest and most diverse mineral deposits inthe world numbering 4,400. Today, 53 minerals are produced in the Turkish mining sector, with85% of production belonging to state-owned enterprises that dominate the production of mineralfuels and metallic ore. The 15% that belongs to the private sector is concentrated in industrialminerals. Turkey is the world’s largest producer of boron, chromite, marble, barites, magnesite,pumice, feldspar, celestite, and emery. Two-thirds of global boron reserves and 40% of global67

marble reserves are located in Turkey at the same time Turkey provides 80% of the world demandof emery. These are essential minerals for cement, construction and the building of infrastructure.

Egypt

The discovery of Crude oil and natural gas have led to petroleum products to dominate Egypt'smineral industry, petroleum and petroleum products are Egypt’s top export commodity. Among70

non-fuel minerals, phosphate rock (around the Red Sea, along the Nile, and in the Western Desert)and iron ore are the most important in terms of value and ore grade.Egypt’s first commercial quantities of oil were discovered in 1908. Large oil fields were discoveredin the Sinai Peninsula, the Gulf of Suez, the Western Desert, and the Eastern Desert. The AbuRudeis and Ra's Sudr oil fields in the Sinai, captured by Israel in 1967, were returned to Egyptiancontrol in November 1975, and the remaining Sinai oil fields reverted to Egyptian control by theend of April 1982. Egypt's main mining activity revolves around the extraction of crude oil. Thecountry is not a major producer of oil, and its reserves are small by regional standards. Egypt'sproven crude oil reserves are estimated to be 4.1 billion barrels.Egypt today has 9 oil refineries producing 710,000 barrels per day of crude oil.

Don't forget that Egypt has the potential to harvest endless of solar power.

Iran
Iran’s economy is dominated by the export of oil and gas. With an economy worth $382 billionboth oil and gas constitute annual revenues of $85 billion for the government. Iran has $80 billion inforeign exchange reserves due to its export of oil and gas, 60% of the economy is in the publicsector and centrally driven by government.

ran has been blessed with oil and gas, at the same time it also has extensive and varied mineralresources. Iran is among the top ten countries in the world in terms of diversity of minerals, asidefrom its extensive oil and gas resources Iran is also the third-largest producer of gypsum. Iran’smineral industry is dominated by coal, metallic minerals, sand and gravel, chemical minerals andsalt. Iran produces iron ore, copper, lead,zinc, chromium, barite, salt, molybdenum, strontium,silica, uranium, and gold. The mines at Sar Cheshmeh in Kerman Province contain the world'ssecond largest lode of copper ore (5% of the world's total).Iran has 3125 operating mines, 2747 of these are operated by private companies. Iran extracted217.5 million tons from its mines in 2007.Iran’s mining industry is dominated by the refining of both oil and gas, resources Iran has amplereserves of. Iran has an estimated 136.2 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, around 10% of theworld's total proven petroleum. Iran has 40 producing fields, 27 onshore and 13 offshore, with themajority of crude oil reserves located in the south-western Khuzestan region near the Iraqi border.Iran’s oil resources are set to become even more important as Iran is the only nation in the worldnot to have pumped more than 50% of its proven reserves


Pakistan
Pakistan currently has a population of 172 million, the 6
th
largest in the world, with GDP of $160billion, which is equivalent to the GDP of both Israel and Singapore who have populations of 7 and4.6 million respectively. The population of Lahore itself is 8 millionPakistan’s economy like the remainder of the Muslim world has shifted from being primarilyagricultural and industrial to services. Today Pakistan’s economy is primarily service based, drivenby the real estate, the stock market and Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) at the same time most of Pakistan’s 48 million labour force is in the agricultural sector.Over the last decade the Pakistani economy has seen growth never witnessed in its history, howeverthe economic policies that allowed such growth have now run out of steam and have proven to havebeen unsustainable, for these reasons 72% of the population live on less than $2 a day.
Mineral resources
Pakistan has an immense variety of minerals and natural resources. Large deposits of gypsum,limestone, chromite, iron ore, rock salt, silver, gold, precious stones, gems, marble, copper, coal,graphite, sulphur, fire clay and silica are found in abundance across Pakistan. Punjab is Pakistan’smost fertile province which has the world’s largest salt range housing the world’s largest deposit of pure salt.Baluchistan province is a mineral rich area having substantial mineral, oil and gas reserves whichhave not been exploited to their full capacity or fully explored. The province has significantquantities of copper, chromite and iron, and antimony and zinc. It also has substantial gold in the farwest. Natural gas was discovered near Sui in 1952. Baluchistan has world’s fifth largest reserves of copper and over 20 million ounces of untapped Gold reserves in the Chaghi area and the Rekodiqmine.Pakistan has no shortage of coal and gas. Pakistan has been blessed with the world’s largest coalreserves after the US. The Thar coal field in Sindh is the world’s largest coal field. Thar coal hasone of the world’s largest lignite deposits, spread over more than 9, 000 sq. km. It comprises around185 billion tonnes of coal which is the equivalent of 618 billion barrels of crude oil; this wouldmeet country’s fuel requirements for centuries.Pakistan has an estimated 25.1 trillion cubic feet (tcf) of proven gas reserves. This has led toPakistan having the highest number of compressed natural gas (CNG)-run vehicles in the worldleaving Brazil and Argentina behind in the race as for the largest user of natural gas vehicles.
 
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It is about a fight between Ummayyad (today's Sunni) and Ali (today's Shia). Yes?

Why would i be a side in this conflict? Arabs fought Arabs for power. It is their division, not mine.

Tell the truth, i am saying this to Arabs and Iranians.
This is not the right thread nor forum to discuss such things. But we love Ali كرم الله وجهه more than ourselves. I even have to love and revere him more than Omayyads. As a Sunni, you know we MUST hold Ali (R) with great respect as well as other Sahaba to complete our faith. I have no desire having a debate over that, but I had to clarify this point.
 
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You guys can't talk about Peace in 1 thread only that was meant to restore peace among the Persian, Arabs and Pakistani community of this forum and you have turned in to battle of Sunni vs Shia. No more religious discussion please. Say if you have something positive to say or infractions will follow if you persist on raising off topic and sensitive issues in this thread.
 
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You guys can't talk about Peace in 1 thread only that was meant to restore peace among the Persian, Arabs and Pakistani community of this forum and you have turned in to battle of Sunni vs Shia. No more religious discussion please. Say if you have something positive to say or infractions will follow if you persist on raising off topic and sensitive issues in this thread.

The problem lies in 7th century A.D. Solution lies in 7th century, too.

You erased these posts. I was coming to solution.
 
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