Patriot VS Traitor (Indian context)

[HariPrasad]

Few days back, I listen to an ex RAW officer video. He was very skeptical about the AAP and Kejriwal. He told that it is the time to Put everything in black and white. We need to Identify traitors and fifth columnist. He gave some basic criterions to identify traitors and patriots. That sparked off an idea in my mind. The issue must be discussed in open forum to create public awareness. I lay down some basic criterions to initiate discussion.


Patriot: We are one. Though we look different but culturally and genetically we are one.i.e promote oneness.

Traitor: We are a country of diversity. We are not one people. Promote Diversity

Patriot: Patriot shall proud of anything good happening in country irrespective of government in power and who did it.

Traitor: Traitor will always try to undermine the achievement of the government which is not of their like. We have seen many people saying bad about Gujarat just because Modi did the development.

Patriot: Will always talk about the Human rights of soldiers and armed forces martyred for nation.

Traitor; will talk about the Human rights of Terrorist, Anti nationals, Naxlites etc. They will not talk about the Human right of soldiers and armed forces who sacrifice their life for nation. For example people like Kejriwal and Digvijay shall go the house of terrorist of Batla house and issue the statement about fake encounter but not go the house of Mohanchand Sharma to console his family.

Patriot: Shall talk, advocate and support the actions against anti social and anti national elements.

Traitor: Shall always try to create sympathy for anti-nationals by terrorist. e.g As we show in Isharat Jahan case, inspite of LET declared her a martyre on their website, Fifth columnist try to prove that she was an innocent student.

Patriot: Shall always advocate indigenization of all our requirement though it is a bit inferior to imported goods.

Traitors: Shall mock the Desi stuff by comparing them with some Imported goods without accepting the good quality and attributes of Desi stuff.


As I get new ideas, I shall update this. Meanwhile I open this thread for discussion specially in Indian context. All honorable members are requested put forward their views and discuss rationally without trolling.
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[uparyupari]

Few days back, I listen to an ex RAW officer video. He was very skeptical about the AAP and Kejriwal. He told that it is the time to Put everything in black and white. We need to Identify traitors and fifth columnist. He gave some basic criterions to identify traitors and patriots. That sparked off an idea in my mind. The issue must be discussed in open forum to create public awareness. I lay down some basic criterions to initiate discussion.


Patriot: We are one. Though we look different but culturally and genetically we are one.i.e promote oneness.

Traitor: We are a country of diversity. We are not one people. Promote Diversity

Diversity of India is a reality. One which should bring us pride and we need to celebrate it. Not be ashamed of it. Our diversity brings new things to the table and we all benefit from it.

When we say we are one people, it comes with a rider. The rider to have the freedom to be different. To be diverse.

Patriot: Patriot shall proud of anything good happening in country irrespective of government in power and who did it.

Traitor: Traitor will always try to undermine the achievement of the government which is not of their like. We have seen many people saying bad about Gujarat just because Modi did the development.

I agree.

Patriot: Will always talk about the Human rights of soldiers and armed forces martyred for nation.

Traitor; will talk about the Human rights of Terrorist, Anti nationals, Naxlites etc. They will not talk about the Human right of soldiers and armed forces who sacrifice their life for nation. For example people like Kejriwal and Digvijay shall go the house of terrorist of Batla house and issue the statement about fake encounter but not go the house of Mohanchand Sharma to console his family.

We need to talk about Human Rights of Terrorist and Naxals too. They are part of our society as well. We can glorify Gandhi, but we can take Godse's name with Respect too. Its not a zero sum game.

Patriot: Shall talk, advocate and support the actions against anti social and anti national elements.

Traitor: Shall always try to create sympathy for anti-nationals by terrorist. e.g As we show in Isharat Jahan case, inspite of LET declared her a martyre on their website, Fifth columnist try to prove that she was an innocent student.

I agree.

Patriot: Shall always advocate indigenization of all our requirement though it is a bit inferior to imported goods.

Traitors: Shall mock the Desi stuff by comparing them with some Imported goods without accepting the good quality and attributes of Desi stuff.

An objective view of Quality and cost benefit is required. If you have to pick between an indigenous pacemaker for your father with a 90% reliability vs an imported pacemaker with 98% reliability, what will you choose?

 

[HariPrasad]

Diversity of India is a reality. One which should bring us pride and we need to celebrate it. Not be ashamed of it. Our diversity brings new things to the table and we all benefit from it.

When we say we are one people, it comes with a rider. The rider to have the freedom to be different. To be diverse.

It is not question of diversity it is a question of what you promote. Petriot shall say we are same people though we have different religion, cast , creed and culture. Traitor will always try to promote diversity such as fake aryan dravidian theory.

We need to talk about Human Rights of Terrorist and Naxals too. They are part of our society as well. We can glorify Gandhi, but we can take Godse's name with Respect too. Its not a zero sum game.

Here the question is that they always talk of right of terrorist and saperist. Who talks about the right of Armed forces and Kashmiri Pundeets.? I have never seen any one of those fake Human right activist talking about the right of Patriots. They always talk about the rights of separatists and Traitors who bomb us and kill our armed forces. They must be identified and exposed.

An objective view of Quality and cost benefit is required. If you have to pick between an indigenous pacemaker for your father with a 90% reliability vs an imported pacemaker with 98% reliability, what will you choose?

Here the question is not choosing but promoting. Look at china. They produce much inferior stuff compared to others but still they promote that.

 

[uparyupari]

It is not question of diversity it is a question of what you promote. Petriot shall say we are same people though we have different religion, cast , creed and culture. Traitor will always try to promote diversity such as fake aryan dravidian theory.

Aryan Dravidian is not diversity, its propaganda. Language, culture, dress, food, festival etc are diversity.

Here the question is that they always talk of right of terrorist and saperist. Who talks about the right of Armed forces and Kashmiri Pundeets.? I have never seen any one of those fake Human right activist talking about the right of Patriots. They always talk about the rights of separatists and Traitors who bomb us and kill our armed forces. They must be identified and exposed.

We need both, a public prosecutor and a defence attorney. No one is better or more evil than the other. People who speak up for Human rights of naxals are not necessarily traitors. They could be patriots too. Maybe the good ones do not get media coverage, but we need them to restore balance in society.

Here the question is not choosing but promoting. Look at china. They produce much inferior stuff compared to others but still they promote that.

I agree we need to promote indigenous equipment and services. But you must also give people the freedom to choose.

 

[kaku1]

I am not tagged here. So no comments.

 

[RepublicOk]

Patriot: We are one. Though we look different but culturally and genetically we are one.i.e promote oneness.

Traitor: We are a country of diversity. We are not one people. Promote Diversity

I don't think so...

Patriot: Patriot shall proud of anything good happening in country irrespective of government in power and who did it.

Traitor: Traitor will always try to undermine the achievement of the government which is not of their like. We have seen many people saying bad about Gujarat just because Modi did the development.

True...

Patriot: Will always talk about the Human rights of soldiers and armed forces martyred for nation.

Traitor; will talk about the Human rights of Terrorist, Anti nationals, Naxlites etc. They will not talk about the Human right of soldiers and armed forces who sacrifice their life for nation. For example people like Kejriwal and Digvijay shall go the house of terrorist of Batla house and issue the statement about fake encounter but not go the house of Mohanchand Sharma to console his family.

Though we are proud of our armed forces there have been severe human rights violations committed but certain members of our armed forces..
In a million strong armed force we can expect some rotten apples.. We ought to condemn human rights violations by terrorists as well as by our armed forces

Patriot: Shall talk, advocate and support the actions against anti social and anti national elements.

Traitor: Shall always try to create sympathy for anti-nationals by terrorist. e.g As we show in Isharat Jahan case, inspite of LET declared her a martyre on their website, Fifth columnist try to prove that she was an innocent student.

I agree..

Patriot: Shall always advocate indigenization of all our requirement though it is a bit inferior to imported goods.

Traitors: Shall mock the Desi stuff by comparing them with some Imported goods without accepting the good quality and attributes of Desi stuff.

I agree..

 

[HariPrasad]

I am not tagged here. So no comments.

I am sorry. You are tagged now.

 

[RepublicOk]

I am not tagged here. So no comments.

Lol.. Where does that leave me then..? I just commented even though m not tagged by OP

 

[HariPrasad]

Aryan Dravidian is not diversity, its propaganda. Language, culture, dress, food, festival etc are diversity.

Among this diversity , Patriot shall promote oneness.

We need both, a public prosecutor and a defence attorney. No one is better or more evil than the other. People who speak up for Human rights of naxals are not necessarily traitors.

People who talks of Only Naxlite rights and keep mum when our armed personnel are killed are certainly traitors. As I gave you the example, People go to terrorist house to console their family but not to patriots who died. They often float the stories of fake encounters. Inspite of Lashkare Toiba declaring Ishrat Jahan and other 3 as their operatives, inspite of they being come to Gujarat to kill CM (Information given by central agencies themselves) They cried of Fake encounter just to defame one state government. These people are really traitor. Imagine for a movement if armed forces say that we shall not fight with terrorist as we have a risk of life. What will happen?

In a discussion , general bakshi said that out of 1200 odd complaints received for human right violations, 97.5% found bogus and in rest of the complaints, Actions were taken. 140 soldiers and officers court marshaled.

 

[Joeblow]

You know lot of the traits you've discribed for a patriot are actually that of a nationalist. Nationalist worries about his country. Patriot worries about his people.

 

[Soumitra]

We need to talk about Human Rights of Terrorist and Naxals too.

Terrorists and Naxals are pigs and they have no human rights

 

[HariPrasad]

Terrorists and Naxals are pigs and they have no human rights

Yes,

They kill 50-60 CRPF personnel and Police too often. Nobody talks of their Human rights. Actually Foreign funded NGOS have created such an atmosphere in country that you can not talk of Human right of Patiots. You can not talk of Human right of Army Personnel, Armed forces, Kashmiri Pundeets and Hindus. You can talk of Human rights of antinationals only. This is a high time to reverse that and reject the people like Digvijay and Kejriwal.

 

[uparyupari]

Among this diversity , Patriot shall promote oneness.

Let the patriot promote nationalism, not oneness.

People who talks of Only Naxlite rights and keep mum when our armed personnel are killed are certainly traitors. As I gave you the example, People go to terrorist house to console their family but not to patriots who died. They often float the stories of fake encounters. Inspite of Lashkare Toiba declaring Ishrat Jahan and other 3 as their operatives, inspite of they being come to Gujarat to kill CM (Information given by central agencies themselves) They cried of Fake encounter just to defame one state government. These people are really traitor. Imagine for a movement if armed forces say that we shall not fight with terrorist as we have a risk of life. What will happen?

People have accused me of speaking up for Hindus and not for Christian and muslims. Which is true. But that does not mean I condone any illegal, immoral or unethical acts against them.

By your definition, I too am a traitor since I do not give a balanced opinion about all topics. I am not required to give balanced opinion or balanced stand.

We should be free to have prejudiced views and opinions. You cannot take away peoples freedom and right to be @ssholes.

People who float stories of fake encounters are traitors, but not necessarily people who go to families of terrorists to console them. You cannot throw out the baby with the bath water.

If Armed forces says they will not fight with terrorist , they should be court martialed. They have given a promise to do so. Civilians have not.

In a discussion , general bakshi said that out of 1200 odd complaints received for human right violations, 97.5% found bogus and in rest of the complaints, Actions were taken. 140 soldiers and officers court marshaled.

This has no bearing on the argument.

Terrorists and Naxals are pigs and they have no human rights

Unfortunately in a civilized society, they do. They get the right to have a fair trial. Emotions has no place in this.

 

[livingdead]

silly half educated sanghis who consider only people who shout bharat mata ji jai at drop of hat as patriots..