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PA's New Haider MBT is the T99A- Type 99 MBT

@Horus Im not saying get it with a 140mm gun :)

Get the standard version.

This will be fullfill your requirements full and you can be sure not have wasted your Money :)

Leo2 is actually the best Tank in the world :)
 
No bro, we are committed to AK program, will keep building it in advanced variants.

@Horus Im not saying get it with a 140mm gun :)

Get the standard version.

This will be fullfill your requirements full and you can be sure not have wasted your Money :)

Leo2 is actually the best Tank in the world :)
 
Al-Khalid tank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
T-14 Armata - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is slight difference including Engine power, any Pakistan Army requirement could be worked out on Armata, Question is; Willingness and politically stable relations with Russia with future perspectives.
T-14 is almost half the price of JF17. Too much costly & i doubt Russia would be able to supply tanks soon b/c they made 20 so far & have plans to induct upto 2000 in their own fleet & i think this maybe their exclusive weapon just like S400 anti ballastic missile defence system b/c it's just like a fresh 5thGen tank in world & you think Russia will give them to Pak over India considering India would also opt for them in future..
 
One day try to be optimistic I can assure you it would feel good but I want link of the article posted in OP
There is a difference between being pessimistic, optimistic and realistic. Try someday to grab some sense or get a life whichever you felt more easier to do.
 
i just don't get it if we are testing all these different platforms and we know how it works and our enginers can manufacture it locally, why not we design a tank according to our needs and we can buy the engines from Ukraine, Turkey or china......once its mature enough we can sell it to other countries
 
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Time will tell, all tests PA is doing currently are being done to find the right technological balance for AK upgrades.
We are going to produce a Tank which ever we select as HAIDER along with up graded models of AL KHALID . Pakistan Army seem to me has left think of just being a defensive force and now working to establish a force which in few days capture most enemy area.
 
T-14 is almost half the price of JF17. Too much costly & i doubt Russia would be able to supply tanks soon b/c they made 20 so far & have plans to induct upto 2000 in their own fleet & i think this maybe their exclusive weapon just like S400 anti ballastic missile defence system b/c it's just like a fresh 5thGen tank in world & you think Russia will give them to Pak over India considering India would also opt for them in future..

It costs 6.5 Million$ & JF-17 costs 25-30 Million$.....a brief home work before posting not an bad idea.
That's the main problem with us to make premature conclusions.........read my previous post carefully where i mentioned that if Russia has no objection to work with Pakistan on Armata export version (If they have plan to develop export version). Inter-state contracts are based over future developments and possibilities & i am talking about possibilities.

India is no matter but Funds is matter, show them money so they will come with you. Yes political stable relations with future military & economic cooperation perspective will play role here.

Any way.......these are all possibilities.....to discuss.
 
We are going to produce a Tank which ever we select as HAIDER along with up graded models of AL KHALID . Pakistan Army seem to me has left think of just being a defensive force and now working to establish a force which in few days capture most enemy area.
We dont now (in Europe) the real parameters used in testing these tanks, but it seems to me that as you said there are two types of tank to go.
One have the Parameters Type-A (full southern desert operation) and for that it must be a Medium Tank, for these you will stick to the Al Khalid, its the heaviest you can get for to fullfil your Parameters Type-A.
The other will have the Parameters Type-B (can operate in the southern desert with limitations) and for that it must be a New Heavier Tank, for these you are testing severals, its a heavy machine with Parameters Type-B. It will perform it best at Punjab plains. It seems to me that the Parameters Type-B are also demanding. When a see such a big demand for a bigger engine, I think in tanks geting out of the mud, its some of the worst tasks to the mechanics recovery detachments (my old army job).

To the ones talking of the Leo2A6, its the best but Germany wont sell them to Pak. In Punjab, a combination of a heavy tank with swords of ATGM, state of the art Infantry (NVS/weapons sights/Radios), long range artillery, helicopters for air mobility, APCs for groung mobility and integrated information, Fighter Air Cover, good low level SAMs, Attack Helos and UAVs, good prepared logistic system to support all this. You will win at the end of the day.
 
The Pa's Haider program involves testing various platforms n selecting the most perfect suited to its own conditions. The articles link n details r on the OP, t99A is the ideal tank with Pakistani customisation to make it Pak environmental friendly.


Well, AK-II a separate weight class project which should be going into serial production Spring of 2016.

Norinco VT4 MBT-3000 main battle tank Is still on cards along Oplot-M. Not sure how it came about that VT4 is dropped but the fact remains similar to FM-90 SAM, PA had requested some upgrades in VT4 prior to the evaluations. One of the upgrades PA requested to Mbt3000, vt-4 was to have the ability to fire laser guided shells n better armour.

The only thing which is happening with T-80 in Ukraine is that PA has quietly asked for spare parts from the tanks which are stored and withdrawn from service. T-84 op lot-m is an upgrade toT-80s serving in PA.
What do you mean ? You want to tell me that Pakistan is building AK 3 going to buy MBT-99 A 2 and also will buy either MBT-3000 or Oplot M ? Is this what you are saying man ? @AsianUnion @balixd @Icarus @kaonalpha @Horus @fatman17 @Manticore
 
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