PA's New Haider MBT is the T99A- Type 99 MBT

[I S I]

What about Germany's Leopard? Why don't we opt for them?

 

[Zarvan]

What about Germany's Leopard? Why don't we opt for them?

Germany will never sell us those

Pakistan should get out of Chinese Black mailing of getting main weaponry contracts from Pakistan....btw, this is the cost we are paying for 'All Weather, Time tested Friendship'

Why not considering Armata T-14/15?
Its specifications are suitable for Pakistan's requirements.

T-14 will take years to fully develop as for Chinese blackmailing their is none we tested MBT-3000 it failed also Oplot M. So now we test this one

 

[Darth Vader]

What about Germany's Leopard? Why don't we opt for them?

How About Aliens they can make a alien Tank For Pak too


Every Force set some goals and they have some requirement if the platform can do They select that for Pakistan
Price , Tech , Availability , Size

When You Apply Better Protection on a Tank It will become heavy , So Pakistan cant Use heavy Babies on Sand Where lighter Tank as Khalid or other medium class run , bridges and other system cant support that heavy Tank

If You Put Hi Tech Systems on a tank it will make it expensive , which is hard for cash strapped country

 

[Zarvan]

How About Aliens they can make a alien Tank For Pak too


Every Force set some goals and they have some requirement if the platform can do They select that for Pakistan
Price , Tech , Availability , Size

When You Apply Better Protection on a Tank It will become heavy , So Pakistan cant Use heavy Babies on Sand Where lighter Tank as Khalid or other medium class run , bridges and other system cant support that heavy Tank

If You Put Hi Tech Systems on a tank it will make it expensive , which is hard for cash strapped country

Sir even if MBT 99 A2 comes we would replace many of its parts with parts from Europe even that is costly

 

[Darth Vader]

Sir even if MBT 99 A2 comes we would replace many of its parts with parts from Europe even that is costly

Europen Systems are always Expensive But Thing is You Can Depend on them and you will be sure they are one of the best in market
With Chinese System come Free hand for Pakistan they can do change in it to their wish

 

[Zarvan]

Europen Systems are always Expensive But Thing is You Can Depend on them and you will be sure they are one of the best in market
With Chinese System come Free hand for Pakistan they can do change in it to their wish

By the way can you find the link of Article posted on OP

 

[Viper0011.]

What about Germany's Leopard? Why don't we opt for them?

Germany is pissed off at the entire Muslim landscape right now. They barely sell machines used for Textile. Asking for defense equipment is like Pakistanis asking India designs for LCA. They'll be seriously offended.

I think time is coming when KSA and someone else needs to do a JV with Turkey and Pakistan. And you come up with your own Leopard or whatever. I think it would be good for the region. KSA can be a major financier and Turkey and Pakistan have the labor needed for innovation and building stuff. So KSA puts .5 money, Turkey and Pakistan put .25 cash each plus all three put in labor to whatever degree and start a small military industrial manufacturing complex. KSA has serious pull in all European countries so getting Western parts won't be an issue. And Pakistan can get anything from Russia so this may be the way to go.

 

[Super Falcon]

Army is so confusing

Ak 2 ak 3 and new tank and now al haider

4 different stories none seen yet

 

[Neptune]

@Irfan Baloch @Horus

I know Altay MBT doesn't fit your requirements based on expert comments. However, Turkey's FNSS had been awarded a tender by the Indonesian government to develop a light tank with JV. FNSS has the export rights.

Chasis is likely to be based on a design similar to that of Otokar's Tulpar IFV. Main gun is OtoMelera 105mm HITFACT. But if Pakistan is in any condition to put RoP for it, then switching to 120mm variant of it and redesigning the chasis for that won't be hard I suppose.

 

[Zarvan]

@Irfan Baloch @Horus

I know Altay MBT doesn't fit your requirements based on expert comments. However, Turkey's FNSS had been awarded a tender by the Indonesian government to develop a light tank with JV. FNSS has the export rights.

Chasis is likely to be based on a design similar to that of Otokar's Tulpar IFV. Main gun is OtoMelera 105mm HITFACT. But if Pakistan is in any condition to put RoP for it, then switching to 120mm variant of it and redesigning the chasis for that won't be hard I suppose.

We don't need light Tank we need a Tank between 48 to 56 tonnes

Army is so confusing

Ak 2 ak 3 and new tank and now al haider

4 different stories none seen yet

AK 2 AK 3 will come soon as for Al Haider it would be separate . You will see soon

 

[Kompromat]

@Neptune

Current requirements = ~ 55 tonne vehicle.

 

[madmusti]

@Neptune

Current requirements = ~ 55 tonne vehicle.

Leopard2a4.

Get some Leo2a4 from Germans and let them tune a little inside from Aselsan with new Fire Control system and even any Arjun will Fear you

Maybe you ask the Germans for their mighty 140mm gun ? ^^

 

[DV RULES]

T-14 will take years to fully develop as for Chinese blackmailing their is none we tested MBT-3000 it failed also Oplot M. So now we test this one

If Pakistan will consider Armata and if there will be no objection from Russia to export to Pakistan then it will wise decision because till the time Armata will be tested & mature; same time developed countries or India will look for Armata equivalent generation MBT.

 

[madmusti]

 

[Kompromat]

Here is what we need from Turkey's Altay project.

* Electronics
* Joint armor development
* RWS
* Optronics
* Communications systems
* Help us upgrade our BMS
* Sell us services from GokTurk-2 SAT.

Leopard2a4.

Get some Leo2a4 from Germans and let them tune a little inside from Aselsan with new Fire Control system and even any Arjun will Fear you

Maybe you ask the Germans for their mighty 140mm gun ? ^^

* Unproven
* Too heavy

Requirement for the vehicle of Armata's size is non existent at this point.

If Pakistan will consider Armata and if there will be no objection from Russia to export to Pakistan then it will wise decision because till the time Armata will be tested & mature; same time developed countries or India will look for Armata equivalent generation MBT.