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Views of the T-90S production line at the Heavy Vehicle Factory (HVF), Avadi. The HVF is looking for an army order for 700 more T-90S tanks.





If India has a capital for battle tanks, it is the Heavy Vehicle Factory (HVF) at Avadi, outside Chennai.
This flagship factory of the Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) produces all of India’s main battle tanks: the Arjun; the T-90S; and before that the T-72 and the Vijayanta. Of the OFB’s total turnover last year of Rs 11,300 crore, HVF alone generated Rs 2,500 crore.

But when Business Standard visited HVF last week, the buzz of production work on the shop floors that build the Indian Army’s T-90S tank was drawing to a close. Of the one thousand T-90S tanks that the army plans to build in HVF --- and has already paid Russia licence fees for --- HVF has received an indent for just 300 tanks. With that order likely to be completed by mid-2013, and with no follow-on order in sight, the T-90 line will grind to a halt.

As this newspaper reported yesterday (“Technology transfer, supply of assemblies hit Russian stonewall”) Russia’s non-compliance with the contract for technology transfer ensured that indigenous production of the T-90S was delayed for 6 years after the contract was signed in January 2001. Now, 11 years after the contract was signed, production is hitting its stride. HVF says 24 tanks were delivered in 2009-10; 51 in 2010-11; it will be 50 this year; and annual production will hit 100 next year (i.e. 2012-13). But there are no army orders beyond that.

Despite that, the MoD has sanctioned expanding the capacity of the T-90S line to 140 tanks per year, says the OFB.

“We are in touch with Army HQ and MoD for the follow-on order of T-90S tanks. The lead-time for positioning of materials and components is about 30 months… that’s how long it takes for ordering, getting the material, manufacturing and assembly and delivery. We are progressing the case with the Vice Chief of Army Staff… and have requested the MoD to pursue the matter,” says RK Jain, Addition DG of the OFB, who oversees HVF.

The army has apparently held back its indent until it is sure that the T-90S tanks already built by HVF are free of production glitches.

“The army wants indigenous T-90s to be observed and user confidence built up [before placing a fresh indent]. So far, the users have run only the first batch of 24 tanks, delivered in 2009-10, to the extent where they can properly evaluate their performance. The 51 tanks that we delivered in 2010-11 have yet to be adequately exploited,” explains Jain.

It is evident that piecemeal ordering is blocking potential economies of scale. MoS for Defence, Rao Inderjit Singh, told the Lok Sabha on 30th Nov 06 that the T-90S tanks that came ready-built from Russia cost Rs 11 crore each; and the knocked down tanks from Russia that were assembled in Avadi cost Rs 12 crore each. But the tanks built in Avadi now cost Rs 18.1 crore, says the OFB.

Asked how much this price could be whittled down through timely bulk orders from the army, HVF officials estimate a potential cost saving of 25-30%. Spurning this opportunity would result in the army paying Rs 3,800 crore more than is necessary for the remaining 700 T-90Ss that HVF will build.

The MoD has not responded to an emailed query from Business Standard, asking why a supplementary indent for more T-90S tanks had not yet been placed on HVF.

A range of facilities feed into HVF’s T-90S production line. Two OFB factories in Kanpur build the gun and breach block. Another in Jabalpur builds the recoil system, while another one in Tiruchiralapplli fabricates the 12.7 millimetre air defence gun. The sophisticated thermal imaging sights and gunner’s sights come from OFB’s Opto-Electronics Factory in Dehradun. The gun stabilizer, which allows the tank to fire accurately while moving, comes from Bharat Electronics Ltd.

Within Avadi, HVF builds major components of the T-90S: the hull, turret, transmission, gearbox and the running gear. Another OFB facility next door, Engine Factory, Avadi, builds the tank’s 1000 HP engine. Thousands of minor parts are outsourced to local industry: electrical items, cables, starter generator, instrument panel, hardware and rubber components. According to OFB’s Jain, the T-90S has been 70% indigenised; this will increase to 80% next year.

Bringing together all this parts takes 30 months. Then HVF assembles them into a tank.

Piecemeal indenting by the military routinely causes production breaks in India’s defence industrial complex, including its defence shipyards and public sector behemoths like Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) and Bharat Electronics Ltd (BEL). Senior officials in these defence companies that that jerky indenting hinders the smooth planning of production cycles, economic utilization of skilled manpower, and the provision of lead times needed for out-sourcing materials and assemblies from external vendors.

Part II: Army’s delayed orders halts T-90 tank

 
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I suspect the follow on orders will come soon, T-90 just has to prove itself to the exacting IA. Exs like current Shardushan Shakti will help in this regard.


Btw 100 tanks/annum is pretty impressive, 140 would be great.
 
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As for as Indigenous factor is concern which you highlighted in red is nothing special. The ready made T-90S from Russia costs 11Crore and Indian assemble cost 18 crore its just a waste of resources just to get some popularity 80% indigenous T-90S. :woot:
Indian army better order 1000 the beast, desert ferrari, one and only "Arjun".
 
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according to broadsword, it is confirmed that due to no ToT saga t 90's gun is built indigenously at CVRDE
 
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As for as Indigenous factor is concern which you highlighted in red is nothing special. The ready made T-90S from Russia costs 11Crore and Indian assemble cost 18 crore its just a waste of resources just to get some popularity 80% indigenous T-90S. :woot:
Indian army better order 1000 the beast, desert ferrari, one and only "Arjun".

1. The reason for high cost:

a.They are not ordered in bulk

b. Costs of thermal imaging etc. are not included in Russian version not from Russia they are purchased separately.

2. The Arjun is desert Ferrari for sure :smokin:
 
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As for as Indigenous factor is concern which you highlighted in red is nothing special. The ready made T-90S from Russia costs 11Crore and Indian assemble cost 18 crore its just a waste of resources just to get some popularity 80% indigenous T-90S. :woot:
Indian army better order 1000 the beast, desert ferrari, one and only "Arjun".


it does not mean about cost........it shows that INDIA CAN MADE 70% OF T-90 AT HOME WITHOUT RUSSIAN SUPPORT.....

surely it helped much in Arjun program.....
 
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In its present form,the T 90S is somewhat inferior to the Ukrainian T 800Ds equipped with T 84 OplotM turrets.Only advantage the T 90S had was its 2A46M2 gun but with Russia denying this gun,OFB has started to use the ancient 2A46M gun of T 72M1.This has eliminated the only lead T 90S had over the T 80UD.May be that's why now IA panzer corps is hesitating to order more units of their once loving and hyped 'all powerful' T 90S.Well,this is the time when IA should react clever.The unexpected twist of faith has presented it with a unique situation.There is no point in inducting more of these junks when an inhouse solution already exists.The soldiers seem to love the Arjun MkI.In current configuration,Arjun MkI defeats the T 90S hands down in every aspects-be it main gun penetration,range or armor protection,FCS,GCS,Suspension,transmission to power to weight ratio to riding comfort-Arjun MkI comes way ahead of T 90S.SO army should think once more.A large order of Arjun MkI will decrease its cost by 25-30%.
 
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In its present form,the T 90S is somewhat inferior to the Ukrainian T 800Ds equipped with T 84 OplotM turrets.Only advantage the T 90S had was its 2A46M2 gun but with Russia denying this gun,OFB has started to use the ancient 2A46M gun of T 72M1.This has eliminated the only lead T 90S had over the T 80UD.May be that's why now IA panzer corps is hesitating to order more units of their once loving and hyped 'all powerful' T 90S.Well,this is the time when IA should react clever.The unexpected twist of faith has presented it with a unique situation.There is no point in inducting more of these junks when an inhouse solution already exists.The soldiers seem to love the Arjun MkI.In current configuration,Arjun MkI defeats the T 90S hands down in every aspects-be it main gun penetration,range or armor protection,FCS,GCS,Suspension,transmission to power to weight ratio to riding comfort-Arjun MkI comes way ahead of T 90S.SO army should think once more.A large order of Arjun MkI will decrease its cost by 25-30%.

I wish your countrymen accept tht... instead of ranting the t-90 is superior to anything we have in our arsenal...
 
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^ Mate nothing in the Pakistani arsenal is superior to the T-90.
 
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In its present form,the T 90S is somewhat inferior to the Ukrainian T 800Ds equipped with T 84 OplotM turrets.Only advantage the T 90S had was its 2A46M2 gun but with Russia denying this gun,OFB has started to use the ancient 2A46M gun of T 72M1.This has eliminated the only lead T 90S had over the T 80UD.May be that's why now IA panzer corps is hesitating to order more units of their once loving and hyped 'all powerful' T 90S.Well,this is the time when IA should react clever.The unexpected twist of faith has presented it with a unique situation.There is no point in inducting more of these junks when an inhouse solution already exists.The soldiers seem to love the Arjun MkI.In current configuration,Arjun MkI defeats the T 90S hands down in every aspects-be it main gun penetration,range or armor protection,FCS,GCS,Suspension,transmission to power to weight ratio to riding comfort-Arjun MkI comes way ahead of T 90S.SO army should think once more.A large order of Arjun MkI will decrease its cost by 25-30%.

The t 90S may be inferior to the t 80ud but what about the t 90M?? it seems to be far superior to the t 90S.
 
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I HAD HEARD THAT THE ARJUN HAD DEFEATED T-90 BHISMA DURING TRIALS!!!!!.....IS IT TRUE????
 
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