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Men of action have gamesmanship, a game plan, a strategy, a way of life, an active and sincere approach to life and people surrounding them----I don't see it anywhere.

" When any nation is fully charged positively with iman(faith) these things automatically start functioning. WARRAICH "


Kid / Young man,

Just from your response, you seem like an inexperienced man in the ways of life and religion----" nation fully charged "---what do you think this IMAN grows on a tree in the backyard or you find it lying down on the roadside, you can just go and pick it up at random and instill it somehow or the other----IMAN deserves hard work and sacrifice---hard work and sacrifice start with self discipline and control---

In order for you to have IMAN you ought to have " a way of life, an active, sincere and positive approach to life and people surrounding you, a game plan, strategy, gamesmanship----I don't see it anywhere ".


Just like an average pakistani looks at ----UNITY FAITH DISCIPLINE and takes it verbatim not understanding and comprehending the significance---talking about unity all the time----failing to acknowledge and realize that it is DISCIPLINE first and discipline last that brings about faith and unity amongst people---.

If an average pakistani could have walked into a PARADE GROUND-----he would have seen at first hand the SEARGENT MAJOR instilling the term discipline amongst his new breed of recruits first and foremost. Where is unity and faith on the charts---down the corridor---excuses excuses excuses all the time.
 
I learn alot from reading your posts, Sir MastanKhan, you have a very good and interesting point, something that I haven't thought of before or looked at it before regarding the "suppression of Muslims by the west", we shouldn't let people walk over us, men should act like real men, and it's no use crying about it, it's not gonna change unless people back their words up with action, courage and dedication.



Jihad,

I am grateful to you for reading my post. I will promise to you one thing and ALLAH be my witness---once you start looking at foreigners as just another people and not as conspirators all the time---you will find out that they are just ordinary citizens who are as scared and concerned of us as we are concerned about them----tell me something---you or any one else---you and I are pakistani---you go to school---there are people you and I don't like---or we have people in competition with us at work or at business---.

What do you and I do to them---we plan against them---we start malicious campaigns against them----we try to put them down---we plan and conspire---we beat them up at times---and then at times we also kill them as well---in our school colleges universities and classrooms we are as vicious and predatory and ruthless in a microcosm as any one nation to the other---.

We talk about PAF pilots flying syrian migs and downing israeli mirages----that is ok by us----but when israel wants to strike back at us---why do we cry then and talk about conspiracy---.

If you look at it, by being things that men do---then you realize that it is an everyday thing---you and I can't run away from it----it is a way of life----somebody needs to tell my pakistani colleagues and country mates. How do you go around it and make it through seperates the men from the boys---it seperates the successful nations from wannabe's.
 
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Men of action have gamesmanship, a game plan, a strategy, a way of life, an active and sincere approach to life and people surrounding them----I don't see it anywhere.

" When any nation is fully charged positively with iman(faith) these things automatically start functioning. WARRAICH "


Kid / Young man,

Just from your response, you seem like an inexperienced man in the ways of life and religion----" nation fully charged "---what do you think this IMAN grows on a tree in the backyard or you find it lying down on the roadside, you can just go and pick it up at random and instill it somehow or the other----IMAN deserves hard work and sacrifice---hard work and sacrifice start with self discipline and control---

In order for you to have IMAN you ought to have " a way of life, an active, sincere and positive approach to life and people surrounding you, a game plan, strategy, gamesmanship----I don't see it anywhere ".


Just like an average pakistani looks at ----UNITY FAITH DISCIPLINE and takes it verbatim not understanding and comprehending the significance---talking about unity all the time----failing to acknowledge and realize that it is DISCIPLINE first and discipline last that brings about faith and unity amongst people---.

If an average pakistani could have walked into a PARADE GROUND-----he would have seen at first hand the SEARGENT MAJOR instilling the term discipline amongst his new breed of recruits first and foremost. Where is unity and faith on the charts---down the corridor---excuses excuses excuses all the time.

MastanKhan,



You are totally confused with my termology 'charged Nation'

For your understanding ,IMAN directly related with your strong believe and faith on God and his all qualities and powers and disbelieve on every thing in this universe ,neither they can benefit you or harm you without the will of God(Allah) .
We know in 13 years life of Makkah our Prophet PBUH only emphesis on Faith and Iman.In madina muwara practical islam was started .

I can easily sense from your post your limited knowledge of IMAN and FAITH .

IMAN and FAITH is first thing to start with then there is need how to strengthen it ,then things you mentioned come to picture the struggle and scarifice (DAWAH/JEHAD),deciplince etc.

When muslims nation were practicing all above things they were the leaders.Read any book of leadership these are key constraints of leadership.Islam tell us 1400 years ago .

I think you are retired soldier ,that is way you are looking all things with army training prospective.
 
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Jihad,

I am grateful to you for reading my post. I will promise to you one thing and ALLAH be my witness---once you start looking at foreigners as just another people and not as conspirators all the time---you will find out that they are just ordinary citizens who are as scared and concerned of us as we are concerned about them----tell me something---you or any one else---you and I are pakistani---you go to school---there are people you and I don't like---or we have people in competition with us at work or at business---.

What do you and I do to them---we plan against them---we start malicious campaigns against them----we try to put them down---we plan and conspire---we beat them up at times---and then at times we also kill them as well---in our school colleges universities and classrooms we are as vicious and predatory and ruthless in a microcosm as any one nation to the other---.

We talk about PAF pilots flying syrian migs and downing israeli mirages----that is ok by us----but when israel wants to strike back at us---why do we cry then and talk about conspiracy---.

If you look at it, by being things that men do---then you realize that it is an everyday thing---you and I can't run away from it----it is a way of life----somebody needs to tell my pakistani colleagues and country mates. How do you go around it and make it through seperates the men from the boys---it seperates the successful nations from wannabe's.

For God sake dont creat confusion or inject poison of western values in young brains.

I think you have limitation or impressed by western culture and values but remember what ever you are looking development,technology etc is the fruit of what muslim scientist invented or discovered.their research is based on muslim scientist research and development.Whole europe was at that time living in stone age.

In roman you can write only upto 100.:rofl:

Do you think your american friends allow any nation buy a piece of land in USA and then declare independent state as Israel did in Palestine .

Hatred among muslims is not against american nation but its government wrong policies to support israel voilating international laws
 
For God sake dont creat confusion or inject poison of western values in young brains.

I think you have limitation or impressed by western culture and values but remember what ever you are looking development,technology etc is the fruit of what muslim scientist invented or discovered.their research is based on muslim scientist research and development.Whole europe was at that time living in stone age.

In roman you can write only upto 100.:rofl:

Do you think your american friends allow any nation buy a piece of land in USA and then declare independent state as Israel did in Palestine .

Hatred among muslims is not against american nation but its government wrong policies to support israel voilating international laws


Warraich,

It is about time a man needs to grow up. It was not muslims who invented----it was individuals from their respective countries who invented and they were muslims----and also it is simply not inventing----it is what you do with the knowledge and where you take it. Grow out of your muslim invention history----there were muslim nations at that time as there were european nations---the whole muslim world does not and cannot take credit of something that one muslim man invented---the invention of a muslim in spain does not automatically make a muslim in timbakto take credit of---has it become this low for you to take credit of every thing and every deed done a thousand years ago by anyone.


You are making a fool of yourself----americans hated the israelis for the longest of the time----read early american history and see how the jews were treated by americans---americans had arabs as friends for the longest time---but when they saw how the arabs acted----the americans got disgusted----also the russian jews started sending russian secrets to the americans during the cold war----the americans then started looking at israel as friends---the arab army no show at the wars of 67 and 73 further distanced them from america---the research and technology advancement by the jew scientists over the years made a big difference----but then last but not least---the jews kept marketing themsleves to the americans----they always made a sales pitch for why they should be favoured by the americans and they don't stop anytime.

There is still extreme hatred of jews in america---but americans hate the muslims more because they act pathetic and disgusting and are gutless.

My boy---let me be a little rude this one time---you don't have the ability to understand and niether your intellect level has reached that stage to comprehend the issues like a man---.

Please stop your rants about IMAN and FAITH---.


THIS DISCUSSION HAS BECOME TOO PERSONAL----------YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN LAUNCHED FROM OTHER SITES---YOU WANT TO ADD ANOTHER ON YOUR RESUME.
 
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Warraich,

It was not muslims who invented----



Mastankhan update your records and information and be positive and logical

Good Food for western mind :undecided:

Setting the Record Straight: The Miracle of Islamic Science
December 10, 2007 · No Comments




Excerpted from: Appendix B of ‘The Miracle of Islamic Science’ by Dr. K. Ajram, Copyright © 1992
The concept that the sciences are exclusively the products of Western minds remains unquestioned by most individuals. A review of any of the standard texts or encyclopaedias regarding the history of science would support this view. As these books are perused, it becomes evident that the only contributors given significant mention are Europeans and/or Americans. It is hardly necessary to repeat the oft-mentioned names: Galileo, Copernicus, Kepler, Bacon, Newton, Da Vinci, Benjamin Franklin, etc. The unavoidable conclusion is that major contributions to the development of the modern sciences by other cultures is minimal. Most texts give little or no mention of the advancements made by ancient Indian, Chinese or, particularly, Muslim scholars. Western civilization has made invaluable contributions to the development of the sciences. However, so have numerous other cultures. Unfortunately, Westerners have long been credited with discoveries made many centuries before by Islamic scholars. Thus, many of the basic sciences were invented by non-Europeans. For instance, George Sarton states that modern Western medicine did not originate from Europe and that it actually arose from the (Islamic) orient. The data in this section concerning dates, names and topics of Western advances has been derived from three main sources: World Book Encyclopedia, Encyclopaedia Britannica and Isaac Asimov’s 700 page book, Chronology of Science and Discovery. Supportive data for the accomplishments of Islamic scholars is derived from the miscellaneous references listed in the bibliography of this book.

What is Taught: The first mention of man in flight was by Roger Bacon, who drew a flying apparatus. Leonardo da Vinci also conceived of airborne transport and drew several prototypes.

What Should be Taught: Ibn Firnas of Islamic Spain invented, constructed and tested a flying machine in the 800’s A.D. Roger Bacon learned of flying machines from Arabic references to Ibn Firnas’ machine. The latter’s invention antedates Bacon by 500 years and Da Vinci by some 700 years.

What is Taught: Glass mirrors were first produced in 1291 in Venice.

What Should be Taught: Glass mirrors were in use in Islamic Spain as early as the 11th century. The Venetians learned of the art of fine glass production from Syrian artisans during the 9th and 10th centuries.

What is Taught: Until the 14th century, the only type of clock available was the water clock. In 1335, a large mechanical clock was erected in Milan, Italy. This was possibly the first weight-driven clock.

What Should be Taught: A variety of mechanical clocks were produced by Spanish Muslim engineers, both large and small, and this knowledge was transmitted to Europe through Latin translations of Islamic books on mechanics. These clocks were weight-driven. Designs and illustrations of epi-cyclic and segmental gears were provided. One such clock included a mercury escapement. The latter type was directly copied by Europeans during the 15th century. In addition, during the 9 th century, Ibn Firnas of Islamic Spain, according to Will Durant, invented a watch-like device which kept accurate time. The Muslims also constructed a variety of highly accurate astronomical clocks for use in their observatories.

What is Taught: In the 17th century, the pendulum was developed by Galileo during his teenage years. He noticed a chandelier swaying as it was being blown by the wind. As a result, he went home and invented the pendulum.

What Should be Taught: The pendulum was discovered by Ibn Yunus al-Masri during the 10th century, who was the first to study and document its oscillatory motion. Its value for use in clocks was introduced by Muslim physicists during the 15 th century.

What is Taught: Movable type and the printing press was invented in the West by Johannes Gutenberg of Germany during the 15th century.

What Should be Taught: In 1454, Gutenberg developed the most sophisticated printing press of the Middle Ages. However, movable brass type was in use in Islamic Spain 100 years prior, and that is where the West’s first printing devices were made.

What is Taught: Isaac Newton’s 17th century study of lenses, light and prisms forms the foundation of the modern science of optics.

What Should be Taught: In the 1lth century al-Haytham determined virtually everything that Newton advanced regarding optics centuries prior and is regarded by numerous authorities as the “founder of optics. ” There is little doubt that Newton was influenced by him. Al-Haytham was the most quoted physicist of the Middle Ages. His works were utilized and quoted by a greater number of European scholars during the 16th and 17th centuries than those of Newton and Galileo combined.

What is Taught: Isaac Newton, during the 17th century, discovered that white light consists of various rays of colored light.

What Should be Taught: This discovery was made in its entirety by al-Haytham (1lth century) and Kamal ad-Din (14th century). Newton did make original discoveries, but this was not one of them.

What is Taught: The concept of the finite nature of matter was first introduced by Antione Lavoisier during the 18th century. He discovered that, although matter may change its form or shape, its mass always remains the same. Thus, for instance, if water is heated to steam, if salt is dissolved in water or if a piece of wood is burned to ashes, the total mass remains unchanged.

What Should be Taught: The principles of this discovery were elaborated centuries before by Islamic Persia’s great scholar, al-Biruni (d. 1050). Lavoisier was a disciple of the Muslim chemists and physicists and referred to their books frequently.

What is Taught: The Greeks were the developers of trigonometry.

What Should be Taught: Trigonometry remained largely a theoretical science among the Greeks. It was developed to a level of modern perfection by Muslim scholars, although the weight of the credit must be given to al-Battani. The words describing the basic functions of this science, sine, cosine and tangent, are all derived from Arabic terms. Thus, original contributions by the Greeks in trigonometry were minimal.

What is Taught: The use of decimal fractions in mathematics was first developed by a Dutchman, Simon Stevin, in 1589. He helped advance the mathematical sciences by replacing the cumbersome fractions, for instance, 1/2, with decimal fractions, for example, 0.5.

What Should be Taught: Muslim mathematicians were the first to utilize decimals instead of fractions on a large scale. Al-Kashi’s book, Key to Arithmetic, was written at the beginning of the 15th century and was the stimulus for the systematic application of decimals to whole numbers and fractions thereof. It is highly probably that Stevin imported the idea to Europe from al-Kashi’s work.

What is Taught: The first man to utilize algebraic symbols was the French mathematician, Francois Vieta. In 1591, he wrote an algebra book describing equations with letters such as the now familiar x and y’s. Asimov says that this discovery had an impact similar to the progression from Roman numerals to Arabic numbers.

What Should be Taught: Muslim mathematicians, the inventors of algebra, introduced the concept of using letters for unknown variables in equations as early as the 9th century A.D. Through this system, they solved a variety of complex equations, including quadratic and cubic equations. They used symbols to develop and perfect the binomial theorem.

What is Taught: The difficult cubic equations (x to the third power) remained unsolved until the 16th century when Niccolo Tartaglia, an Italian mathematician, solved them.

What Should be Taught: Cubic equations as well as numerous equations of even higher degrees were solved with ease by Muslim mathematicians as early as the 10th century.

What is Taught: The concept that numbers could be less than zero, that is negative numbers, was unknown until 1545 when Geronimo Cardano introduced the idea.

What Should he Taught: Muslim mathematicians introduced negative numbers for use in a variety of arithmetic functions at least 400 years prior to Cardano. What is Taught: In 1614, John Napier invented logarithms and logarithmic tables. What Should be Taught: Muslim mathematicians invented logarithms and produced logarithmic tables several centuries prior. Such tables were common in the Islamic world as early as the 13th century.

What is Taught: During the 17th century Rene Descartes made the discovery that algebra could be used to solve geometrical problems. By this, he greatly advanced the science of geometry.

What Should be Taught: Mathematicians of the Islamic Empire accomplished precisely this as early as the 9th century A.D. Thabit bin Qurrah was the first to do so, and he was followed by Abu’l Wafa, whose 10th century book utilized algebra to advance geometry into an exact and simplified science.

What is Taught: Isaac Newton, during the 17th century, developed the binomial theorem, which is a crucial component for the study of algebra.

What Should be Taught: Hundreds of Muslim mathematicians utilized and perfected the binomial theorem. They initiated its use for the systematic solution of algebraic problems during the 10th century (or prior).

What is Taught: No improvement had been made in the astronomy of the ancients during the Middle Ages regarding the motion of planets until the 13th century. Then Alphonso the Wise of Castile (Middle Spain) invented the Aphonsine Tables, which were more accurate than Ptolemy’s.

What Should be Taught: Muslim astronomers made numerous improvements upon Ptolemy’s findings as early as the 9th century. They were the first astronomers to dispute his archaic ideas. In their critic of the Greeks, they synthesized proof that the sun is the center of the solar system and that the orbits of the earth and other planets might be elliptical. They produced hundreds of highly accurate astronomical tables and star charts. Many of their calculations are so precise that they are regarded as contemporary. The AlphonsineTables are little more than copies of works on astronomy transmitted to Europe via Islamic Spain, i.e. the Toledo Tables.

What is Taught: The English scholar Roger Bacon (d. 1292) first mentioned glass lenses for improving vision. At nearly the same time, eyeglasses could be found in use both in China and Europe.

What Should be Taught: Ibn Firnas of Islamic Spain invented eyeglasses during the 9th century, and they were manufactured and sold throughout Spain for over two centuries. Any mention of eyeglasses by Roger Bacon was simply a regurgitation of the work of al-Haytham (d. 1039), whose research Bacon frequently referred to.

What is Taught: Gunpowder was developed in the Western world as a result of Roger Bacon’s work in 1242. The first usage of gunpowder in weapons was when the Chinese fired it from bamboo shoots in attempt to frighten Mongol conquerors. They produced it by adding sulfur and charcoal to saltpeter.

What Should be Taught: The Chinese developed saltpeter for use in fireworks and knew of no tactical military use for gunpowder, nor did they invent its formula. Research by Reinuad and Fave have clearly shown that gunpowder was formulated initially by Muslim chemists. Further, these historians claim that the Muslims developed the first fire-arms. Notably, Muslim armies used grenades and other weapons in their defence of Algericus against the Franks during the 14 th century. Jean Mathes indicates that the Muslim rulers had stock-piles of grenades, rifles, crude cannons, incendiary devices, sulfur bombs and pistols decades before such devices were used in Europe. The first mention of a cannon was in an Arabic text around 1300 A.D. Roger Bacon learned of the formula for gunpowder from Latin translations of Arabic books. He brought forth nothing original in this regard.

What is Taught: The compass was invented by the Chinese who may have been the first to use it for navigational purposes sometime between 1000 and 1100 A.D. The earliest reference to its use in navigation was by the Englishman, Alexander Neckam (1157-1217).

What Should be Taught: Muslim geographers and navigators learned of the magnetic needle, possibly from the Chinese, and were the first to use magnetic needles in navigation. They invented the compass and passed the knowledge of its use in navigation to the West. European navigators relied on Muslim pilots and their instruments when exploring unknown territories. Gustav Le Bon claims that the magnetic needle and compass were entirely invented by the Muslims and that the Chinese had little to do with it. Neckam, as well as the Chinese, probably learned of it from Muslim traders. It is noteworthy that the Chinese improved their navigational expertise after they began interacting with the Muslims during the 8th century.

What is Taught: The first man to classify the races was the German Johann F. Blumenbach, who divided mankind into white, yellow, brown, black and red peoples.

What Should be Taught: Muslim scholars of the 9th through 14th centuries invented the science of ethnography. A number of Muslim geographers classified the races, writing detailed explanations of their unique cultural habits and physical appearances. They wrote thousands of pages on this subject. Blumenbach’s works were insignificant in comparison.

What is Taught: The science of geography was revived during the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries when the ancient works of Ptolemy were discovered. The Crusades and the Portuguese/Spanish expeditions also contributed to this reawakening. The first scientifically- based treatise on geography were produced during this period by Europe’s scholars.

What Should be Taught: Muslim geographers produced untold volumes of books on the geography of Africa, Asia, India, China and the Indies during the 8th through 15th centuries. These writings included the world’s first geographical encyclopedias, almanacs and road maps. Ibn Battutah’s 14 th century masterpieces provide a detailed view of the geography of the ancient world. The Muslim geographers of the 10th through 15th centuries far exceeded the output by Europeans regarding the geography of these regions well into the 18 th century. The Crusades led to the destruction of educational institutions, their scholars and books. They brought nothing substantive regarding geography to the Western world.

What is Taught: Robert Boyle, in the 17th century, originated the science of chemistry.

What Should be Taught: A variety of Muslim chemists, including ar-Razi, al-Jabr, al-Biruni and al-Kindi, performed scientific experiments in chemistry some 700 years prior to Boyle. Durant writes that the Muslims introduced the experimental method to this science. Humboldt regards the Muslims as the founders of chemistry.

What is Taught: Leonardo da Vinci (16th century) fathered the science of geology when he noted that fossils found on mountains indicated a watery origin of the earth.

What Should be Taught: Al-Biruni (1lth century) made precisely this observation and added much to it, including a huge book on geology, hundreds of years before Da Vinci was born. Ibn Sina noted this as well (see pages 100-101). it is probable that Da Vinci first learned of this concept from Latin translations of Islamic books. He added nothing original to their findings.

What is Taught: The first mention of the geological formation of valleys was in 1756, when Nicolas Desmarest proposed that they were formed over a long periods of time by streams.

What Should be Taught: Ibn Sina and al-Biruni made precisely this discovery during the 11th century (see pages 102 and 103), fully 700 years prior to Desmarest.

What is Taught: Galileo (17th century) was the world’s first great experimenter. What Should be Taught: Al-Biruni (d. 1050) was the world’s first great experimenter. He wrote over 200 books, many of which discuss his precise experiments. His literary output in the sciences amounts to some 13,000 pages, far exceeding that written by Galileo or, for that matter, Galileo and Newton combined. What is Taught: The Italian Giovanni Morgagni is regarded as the father of pathology because he was the first to correctly describe the nature of disease.

What Should be Taught: Islam’s surgeons were the first pathologists. They fully realized the nature of disease and described a variety of diseases to modern detail. Ibn Zuhr correctly described the nature of pleurisy, tuberculosis and pericarditis. Az-Zahrawi accurately documented the pathology of hydrocephalus (water on the brain) and other congenital diseases. Ibn al-Quff and Ibn an-Nafs gave perfect descriptions of the diseases of circulation. Other Muslim surgeons gave the first accurate descriptions of certain malignancies, including cancer of the stomach, bowel and esophagus. These surgeons were the originators of pathology, not Giovanni Morgagni.

What is Taught: Paul Ehrlich (19th century) is the originator of drug chemotherapy, that is the use of specific drugs to kill microbes.

What Should be Taught: Muslim physicians used a variety of specific substances to destroy microbes. They applied sulfur topically specifically to kill the scabies mite. Ar-Razi (10 th century) used mercurial compounds as topical antiseptics.

What is Taught: Purified alcohol, made through distillation, was first produced by Arnau de Villanova, a Spanish alchemist, in 1300 A.D.

What Should be Taught: Numerous Muslim chemists produced medicinal-grade alcohol through distillation as early as the 10th century and manufactured on a large scale the first distillation devices for use in chemistry. They used alcohol as a solvent and antiseptic.

What is Taught: The first surgery performed under inhalation anesthesia was conducted by C.W. Long, an American, in 1845.

What Should be Taught: Six hundred years prior to Long, Islamic Spain’s Az-Zahrawi and Ibn Zuhr, among other Muslim surgeons, performed hundreds of surgeries under inhalation anesthesia with the use of narcotic-soaked sponges which were placed over the face.

What is Taught: During the 16th century Paracelsus invented the use of opium extracts for anesthesia.

What Should be Taught: Muslim physicians introduced the anesthetic value of opium derivatives during the Middle Ages. Opium was originally used as an anesthetic agent by the Greeks. Paracelus was a student of Ibn Sina’s works from which it is almost assured that he derived this idea.

What is Taught: Modern anesthesia was invented in the 19th century by Humphrey Davy and Horace Wells.

What Should be Taught: Modern anesthesia was discovered, mastered and perfected by Muslim anesthetists 900 years before the advent of Davy and Wells. They utilized oral as well as inhalant anesthetics.

What is Taught: The concept of quarantine was first developed in 1403. In Venice, a law was passed preventing strangers from entering the city until a certain waiting period had passed. If, by then, no sign of illness could be found, they were allowed in.

What Should be Taught: The concept of quarantine was first introduced in the 7th century A.D. by the prophet Muhammad, who wisely warned against entering or leaving a region suffering from plague. As early as the 10th century, Muslim physicians innovated the use of isolation wards for individuals suffering with communicable diseases.

What is Taught: The scientific use of antiseptics in surgery was discovered by the British surgeon Joseph Lister in 1865.

What Should be Taught: As early as the 10th century, Muslim physicians and surgeons were applying purified alcohol to wounds as an antiseptic agent. Surgeons in Islamic Spain utilized special methods for maintaining antisepsis prior to and during surgery. They also originated specific protocols for maintaining hygiene during the post-operative period. Their success rate was so high that dignitaries throughout Europe came to Cordova, Spain, to be treated at what was comparably the “Mayo Clinic” of the Middle Ages.

What is Taught: In 1545, the scientific use of surgery was advanced by the French surgeon Ambroise Pare. Prior to him, surgeons attempted to stop bleeding through the gruesome procedure of searing the wound with boiling oil. Pare stopped the use of boiling oils and began ligating arteries. He is considered the “father of rational surgery.” Pare was also one of the first Europeans to condemn such grotesque “surgical” procedures as trepanning (see reference #6, pg. 110).

What Should be Taught: Islamic Spain’s illustrious surgeon, az-Zahrawi (d. 1013), began ligating arteries with fine sutures over 500 years prior to Pare. He perfected the use of Catgut, that is suture made from animal intestines. Additionally, he instituted the use of cotton plus wax to plug bleeding wounds. The full details of his works were made available to Europeans through Latin translations. Despite this, barbers and herdsmen continued be the primary individuals practicing the “art” of surgery for nearly six centuries after az-Zahrawi’s death. Pare himself was a barber, albeit more skilled and conscientious than the average ones. Included in az-Zahrawi’s legacy are dozens of books. His most famous work is a 30 volume treatise on medicine and surgery. His books contain sections on preventive medicine, nutrition, cosmetics, drug therapy, surgical technique, anesthesia, pre and post-operative care as well as drawings of some 200 surgical devices, many of which he invented. The refined and scholarly az-Zahrawi must be regarded as the father and founder of rational surgery, not the uneducated Pare.

What is Taught: William Harvey, during the early 17th century, discovered that blood circulates. He was the first to correctly describe the function of the heart, arteries and veins. Rome’s Galen had presented erroneous ideas regarding the circulatory system, and Harvey was the first to determine that blood is pumped throughout the body via the action of the heart and the venous valves. Therefore, he is regarded as the founder of human physiology.

What Should be Taught: In the 10th century, Islam’s ar-Razi wrote an in-depth treatise on the venous system, accurately describing the function of the veins and their valves. Ibn an-Nafs and Ibn al-Quff (13th century) provided full documentation that the blood circulates and correctly described the physiology of the heart and the function of its valves 300 years before Harvey. William Harvey was a graduate of Italy’s famous Padua University at a time when the majority of its curriculum was based upon Ibn Sina’s and ar-Razi’s textbooks.

What is Taught: The first pharmacopeia (book of medicines) was published by a German scholar in 1542. According to World Book Encyclopedia, the science of pharmacology was begun in the 1900’s as an off-shoot of chemistry due to the analysis of crude plant materials. Chemists, after isolating the active ingredients from plants, realized their medicinal value.

What Should be Taught: According to the eminent scholar of Arab history, Phillip Hitti, the Muslims, not the Greeks or Europeans, wrote the first “modern” pharmacopeia. The science of pharmacology was originated by Muslim physicians during the 9th century. They developed it into a highly refined and exact science. Muslim chemists, pharmacists and physicians produced thousands of drugs and/or crude herbal extracts one thousand years prior to the supposed birth of pharmacology. During the 14th century Ibn Baytar wrote a monumental pharmacopeia listing some 1400 different drugs. Hundreds of other pharmacopeias were published during the Islamic Era. It is likely that the German work is an offshoot of that by Ibn Baytar, which was widely circulated in Europe.

What is Taught: The discovery of the scientific use of drugs in the treatment of specific diseases was made by Paracelsus, the Swiss-born physician, during the 16th century. He is also credited with being the first to use practical experience as a determining factor in the treatment of patients rather than relying exclusively on the works of the ancients.

What Should be Taught: Ar-Razi, Ibn Sina, al-Kindi, Ibn Rushd, az-Zahrawi, Ibn Zuhr, Ibn Baytar, Ibn al-Jazzar, Ibn Juljul, Ibn al-Quff, Ibn an-Nafs, al-Biruni, Ibn Sahl and hundreds of other Muslim physicians mastered the science of drug therapy for the treatment of specific symptoms and diseases. In fact, this concept was entirely their invention. The word “drug” is derived from Arabic. Their use of practical experience and careful observation was extensive. Muslim physicians were the first to criticize ancient medical theories and practices. Ar-Razi devoted an entire book as a critique of Galen’s anatomy. The works of Paracelsus are insignificant compared to the vast volumes of medical writings and original findings accomplished by the medical giants of Islam.

What is Taught: The first sound approach to the treatment of disease was made by a German, Johann Weger, in the 1500’s.

What Should be Taught: Harvard’s George Sarton says that modern medicine is entirely an Islamic development and that Setting the Record Straight the Muslim physicians of the 9th through 12th centuries were precise, scientific, rational and sound in their approach. Johann Weger was among thousands of Europeans physicians during the 15th through 17th centuries who were taught the medicine of ar-Razi and Ibn Sina. He contributed nothing original.

What is Taught: Medical treatment for the insane was modernized by Philippe Pinel when in 1793 he operated France’s first insane asylum.

What Should be Taught: As early as the 1lth century, Islamic hospitals maintained special wards for the insane. They treated them kindly and presumed their disease was real at a time when the insane were routinely burned alive in Europe as witches and sorcerers. A curative approach was taken for mental illness and, for the first time in history, the mentally ill were treated with supportive care, drugs and psychotherapy. Every major Islamic city maintained an insane asylum where patients were treated at no charge. In fact, the Islamic system for the treatment of the insane excels in comparison to the current model, as it was more humane and was highly effective as well.

What is Taught: Kerosine was first produced by the an Englishman, Abraham Gesner, in 1853. He distilled it from asphalt.

What Should be Taught: Muslim chemists produced kerosine as a distillate from petroleum products over 1,000 years prior to Gesner (see Encyclopaedia Britannica under the heading, Petroleum).

For biographies of Muslim Scholars mentioned in this article, visit the Web Site: Muslim Scientists and Islamic Civilization . For authors and books mentioned in this article, refer to the author’s book ‘The Miracle of Islamic Science’. Also, Refer to Dr. Ajram’s companion book ‘Incredible Islamic Scientists: Incredible Facts About Incredible Men - 500 Multiple Choice, Short Answers and True-False Questions’, 1992, p. 136. ISBN 0911119485.
 

On Sunday, the Pakistan army killed 40 Taliban and wounded scores of them in Mohmand Agency when it repulsed an attack mounted by about 600 fighters from across the Afghan border. The attackers, called “foreigners” by the official spokesman, targeted the Frontier Constabulary positions inside the Agency. The “foreigners” were supported by the local Taliban. In the fight that continued through the early hours, six Pakistani soldiers were martyred.

In the neighbouring Bajaur Agency, the local Taliban known to be supported from outside Pakistan cut off the ears of four private guards. The Pakistan army is deployed in Bajaur, the most dangerous stronghold of the militants who pretend to wage jihad against the state of Pakistan. There too, Pakistan has suffered incursions of “foreigners” from the neighbouring Afghan province of Kunar. Next to Bajaur, in South Waziristan Agency, the Taliban carried out the abduction of a government official obviously with the intent of demanding ransom or release of their cohorts from state captivity.

Our misfortune is that that all sides fighting on Pakistani soil claim the obligation of jihad as their motive for violence. Those who attack and those who defend also claim the status of martyr for their dead. In Swat, the “piety” of the militants is being demonstrated through the courts set up by them, doling out punitive verdicts without much examination of evidence. It is said that there are three types of Taliban operating in Pakistan: the Afghan plus non-Afghan “foreigners” attached to Al Qaeda; the Pakistani Taliban who are demanding a change in Pakistan’s foreign policy and enforcement of their tough sharia; and criminals who enrich themselves through jihad.

The Americans complain that the Taliban cross over into Afghanistan from the Pakistani side to attack the NATO-ISAF forces. The CIA uses drones and missiles to target and kill them in our Tribal Areas. This movement of the militants is supposed to be a hangover from the jihad that went into Afghanistan to support the government of the Taliban against the multinational “invasion” of Afghanistan in 2001. When the rout occurred, many of the Taliban escaped into Pakistan’s tribal belt and Balochistan. Now the movement of militants is from Afghanistan to Pakistan, a kind of “reverse” jihad.

In a recent interview with Der Spiegel, our ISI chief General Ahmad Shuja Pasha was asked a question about the presence of the Taliban in Quetta. If the report is correct, and we hope it isn’t, he is supposed to have expressed an opinion of jihad that indirectly denies the presence of the state: “Shouldn’t they be allowed to think and say what they please? They believe that jihad is their obligation. Isn’t that freedom of opinion?” It is quite surprising to see a concept which is not even consensual among the clergy being given a constitutional status like freedom of expression. Saying that jihad is permissible without the authority of the state is one thing; actually waging jihad when the state is at peace is quite another.

An editorial on Balochistan appearing in a national daily on Monday stated: “Challenging the writ of the Taliban is tricky as it is both difficult and dangerous to confront a grouping that says it is working within the religious constitution of the state — the constitution which has the sharia at its very heart. Few of us would wish to risk the wrath of the extremists by challenging them as they will always counter with the cry of ‘Are you not a Muslim?’” The truth of the matter is that the militant clerics — and most others go along for the sake of their empowerment — claim jihad only by negating the fundamental article of the Constitution: the state itself.

Jurisprudence says jihad is for the state or the “ul-al amr” (ruler) to declare, therefore any jihad declared in a vigilante form is not jihad but “fitna”, a most undesirable state of affairs in an Islamic state. The argument of the clergy in favour of jihad quite clearly rejects the state “because it is derelict in its duty to declare jihad when it has become incumbent on the state to do so”. The inspiration behind the thinking of the clergy comes from Revelation; for the state, the mechanics of waging war depend on the calculus of power. Jihad is an aspiration to martyrdom; war is an expression of a state’s economic and military strength.

When the state gets into the business of waging “deniable” jihad with the help of “non-state actors”, it creates multiple centres of power at the cost of its internal sovereignty. These days, an unhinged war in the form of a “reverse” jihad has engulfed Pakistan. And the only reason why it is raging is the waning of the writ of the state and the empowerment of groups who wish to usurp it. *

Second Editorial: Pak-India cooperation need of the hour

The chairperson of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), Ms Asma Jahangir, and secretary-general of the South Asia Free Media Association (SAFMA), Mr Imtiaz Alam, have just returned from a peace conference in Amritsar, India, and the news they have carried back is good. They told the press on arrival back that the Indian response to their appeal to India and Pakistan to cooperate in this hour of duress was extremely positive. Their appeal that the two countries should abandon their current trend of threatening each other and return to the “composite” peace talks was well received. What is more, the Indian participants criticised the Indian media for creating a warlike hype in the country.

This is the need of the hour. Civil society on both sides, instead of being shanghaied into war hysteria, should become active in starting their own discourse of peace. The aim is not to condone the Mumbai attack but to get to the root of the matter through cooperation. The good news is that SAFMA and HRCP will arrange the visit of a 25-member delegation to New Delhi on the 21st of this month, comprising Pakistani parliamentarians, journalists and people from different walks of life. The aim is to reassure the Indians that all people and all political across the board in Pakistan favour normalisation of relations with India and support the “composite dialogue” currently threatened by bilateral tensions.
 
“Shouldn’t they be allowed to think and say what they please? They believe that jihad is their obligation. Isn’t that freedom of opinion?” It is quite surprising to see a concept which is not even consensual among the clergy being given a constitutional status like freedom of expression. Saying that jihad is permissible without the authority of the state is one thing; actually waging jihad when the state is at peace is quite another.

I disagree with the criticism of Gen. Pasha for his statement of Jiahd, and I am a surprised that a Pakistani editorial was not able to grasp the context of his remarks either.

Gen. Pasha at no point endorsed the right of the Taliban leadership to 'wage Jihad'. He explicitly referred to 'freedom of opinion' and that the Taliban had a right to 'think and say what they please'.

Perhaps that comment by Gen. Pasha was to make the point that the ISI has the 'Shura' under control, and that they are not actively involved in supporting the insurgency, though they still support the views of "jihad'.
 
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The intel chief of all people should have known that he'd be heavily misquoted. But most soldiers though in my experince don't think in this way.
 
The intel chief of all people should have known that he'd be heavily misquoted. But most soldiers though in my experince don't think in this way.[/QUOTE]

and that is exactly why generals should be doing what they do best - "stay prepared for war".
 
Dear MastanKhan:
""the pakistani view is a clouded view""
YES you are right. Pakistani people are vague, unclear, and imprecise in their views of the world.
AND so are most of the common innocent people of other nations, including the United States.
About the only time a Nation had clear, precise surgical goals was during the rise of the Third Reich under Adolf Hiltler in early 30’s. In a span of little over 10 years a traumatized, impoverished humiliated German nation rose from the ashes and challenged the world.
Your views on Mullah Omar’s “folly” are interesting. Perhaps he should have subscribed to crass opportunism, killed OBL and saved his skin?? Not so easy my dear!! The reality is that he still could not have saved the Taleban regime; the die was cast as far back as early 2000.
 
Dear MastanKhan:

Following the romantic beginnings with Roosevelt administration the US-Israeli relationship declined in the early 50’s. It reached an all time low during the Eisenhower administration. It got a new lease of life under the Johnson administration; and reached a crescendo during the Nixon administration.

Nobody in the US administration really cares about the lukewarm sentiments of American public towards Israel. It’s the power of AIPAC. No Senator or Congressman in his right mind will dare mess with AIPAC or he will lick dust in no time.

After the cold war the Jewish Lobby and the Southern Baptist Evangelist led neo-cons wanted a bogey … that bogey is Islam. The dictum goes:
· White America hated Blacks but never feared them.
· White America had a grudging respect for Nazis but feared them.
· White America never really hated Communists but feared them.
· White America both hates and fears Muslims.

Cowardly performance by the Arab armies in 1967 / 1973 wars put a huge dent in the Arab prestige. Americans love betting on winning horses! Afghan Mujahideen (mostly Taliban now) too were at one time darlings of the Americans.!

But AIPAC is like a skinny 12 year old mahout driving the 8-Ton American elephant. No matter how “well behaved” Muslims or Arabs are, they will always be hated and feared.
 
In a recent interview with Der Spiegel, our ISI chief General Ahmad Shuja Pasha was asked a question about the presence of the Taliban in Quetta. If the report is correct, and we hope it isn’t, he is supposed to have expressed an opinion of jihad that indirectly denies the presence of the state: “Shouldn’t they be allowed to think and say what they please? They believe that jihad is their obligation. Isn’t that freedom of opinion?” It is quite surprising to see a concept which is not even consensual among the clergy being given a constitutional status like freedom of expression. Saying that jihad is permissible without the authority of the state is one thing; actually waging jihad when the state is at peace is quite another

But this not the case in NWFP ,PA army attacked on local tribes to comply US orders (Either you are with us or against us).
 
Every person, Taliban included is entitled to his views, ideology and passion. That’s what freedom of expression is all about. Some individuals decide to put their ideas into action; which may or may not be in accordance with the law of the land. But that does not make such actions intrinsically wrong.

Rahm Emanuel, Chief of Staff of president-elect Obama, joined Israeli Army as a volunteer in 1991. He apparently has dual Israeli-US citizenship, and is at absolute liberty to don the Israeli uniform whenever he deems fit; caring less what the official US Government position is. Any Objections?

If responding to the call of conscience in case of Mr. Rahm is right, Taliban too are right.

Thousands of European volunteers and US join Israeli Kubbutz to experience community work and spiritual purity in hard-core militant environments. Kibbutz leaders are proud of there links to hardcore “terrorist” organizations of yesteryear Irgun and Haganah. If joining a Kibbutz is great, then so is joining a Jihadi Madrassah.
 
Every person, Taliban included is entitled to his views, ideology and passion. That’s what freedom of expression is all about. Some individuals decide to put their ideas into action; which may or may not be in accordance with the law of the land. But that does not make such actions intrinsically wrong.

Great thought.

I doubt the Taliban would approve though!
 

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