Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[aliaselin]

Why don't Pakistan shift 7.62mm rife to 5.56mm， which is NATO standard and used more widely by other countries.

 

[Path-Finder]

Why don't Pakistan shift 7.62mm rife to 5.56mm， which is NATO standard and used more widely by other countries.

the reason for sticking with 7.62 is the doctrine if the enemy is shot then the enemy should not get up again. 5.56 works on different doctrine.

 

[aliaselin]

the reason for sticking with 7.62 is the doctrine if the enemy is shot then the enemy should not get up again. 5.56 works on different doctrine.

5.56 mm has better penetration ability, so would be better if the enemy is well protected.

 

[MastanKhan]

Why don't Pakistan shift 7.62mm rife to 5.56mm， which is NATO standard and used more widely by other countries.

Hi,

During this terrorist issue---we found out that the range between the combatants and mitlitary maybe over 300 yards---mountain top to mountain top---mountain top to valleys or otherwise.

Secondly---lots of enemy combatants are high on hashish or opium or other stuff---. They need to be put down with a larger bore round. It may take 10 rounds of 5.56 to take down an enraged enemy compared to one round from the .308

 

[aliaselin]

Hi,

During this terrorist issue---we found out that the range between the combatants and mitlitary maybe over 300 yards---mountain top to mountain top---mountain top to valleys or otherwise.

Secondly---lots of enemy combatants are high on hashish or opium or other stuff---. They need to be put down with a larger bore round. It may take 10 rounds of 5.56 to take down an enraged enemy compared to one round from the .308

Firstly, it is impossible that it take 10:1 ratio for 5.56mm compared to 7.62mm.secondly, 7.62mm may be better for anti-terrorist work in mountain area, but the major duty of Pakistan army is against Indian in Pujab and Sindh boundary， and these areas are more suitable for 5.56mm gun

 

[Zarvan]

Firstly, it is impossible that it take 10:1 ratio for 5.56mm compared to 7.62mm.secondly, 7.62mm may be better for anti-terrorist work in mountain area, but the major duty of Pakistan army is against Indian in Pujab and Sindh boundary， and these areas are more suitable for 5.56mm gun

No !!! Even in those 7.62 performs better. We need powerful caliber to hit enemy at far distances and 7.62 performs best.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Firstly, it is impossible that it take 10:1 ratio for 5.56mm compared to 7.62mm.secondly, 7.62mm may be better for anti-terrorist work in mountain area, but the major duty of Pakistan army is against Indian in Pujab and Sindh boundary， and these areas are more suitable for 5.56mm gun

In a war the range matters a lot .. More than the WOT ... We need a larger round with more stopping power (in a war the enemy will be wearing Kevlar too).. Can a 5.56 go through an armoured plate at 500-700 or more range? Nope.

The 5.56 WWs develop to injure the enemy .. Not kill... It's useless for us .. Except for the special forces...

 

[aliaselin]

No !!! Even in those 7.62 performs better. We need powerful caliber to hit enemy at far distances and 7.62 performs best.

In your world， your Pakistan and Turkey are better than US, Russianand China

In a war the range matters a lot .. More than the WOT ... We need a larger round with more stopping power (in a war the enemy will be wearing Kevlar too).. Can a 5.56 go through an armoured plate at 500-700 or more range? Nope.

The 5.56 WWs develop to injure the enemy .. Not kill... It's useless for us .. Except for the special forces...

Unfortunately, 5.56 mm works better against an enemy wearing Kevlar compared to 7.62 mm

 

[Zarvan]

In your world， your Pakistan and Turkey are better than US, Russianand China

Unfortunately, 5.56 mm works better against an enemy wearing Kevlar compared to 7.62 mm

USA and NATO are not happy with 5.56 performance in Afghanistan and Iraq that is why many European countries and USA are switching back to 7.62

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

In your world， your Pakistan and Turkey are better than US, Russianand China

Unfortunately, 5.56 mm works better against an enemy wearing Kevlar compared to 7.62 mm

No wonder NATO is considering discarding the 5.56 ..

 

[Path-Finder]

Firstly, it is impossible that it take 10:1 ratio for 5.56mm compared to 7.62mm.secondly, 7.62mm may be better for anti-terrorist work in mountain area, but the major duty of Pakistan army is against Indian in Pujab and Sindh boundary， and these areas are more suitable for 5.56mm gun

During the Iraq war M14's made a comeback as the 5.56 was not sufficient in stopping power so 7.62 rifle was re issued briefly, Remington the people behind 5.56 cartridge then went to work and made a 6.8 cartridge after hearing the complaints. in Our scenario 7.62x39/51 has proven to be the winning formula. a lot of wildcat cartridges are coming out like 6.5 Grendel 6.8SPC as a intermediate between 5.56 & 7.62

 

[Zarvan]

Our beloved FN SCAR at Firing Range

ARX-200 also doing good
Photo credit : @Sulman Badshah
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[Sulman Badshah]

 

[RAMPAGE]

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Any updates? What about the CZ bren? Still in the competition?

 

[Path-Finder]

What about Zastava?