Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[DESERT FIGHTER]

They have not Hazrat, only Zarrar use it as their standard weapon.

They have.

M4 has become SSG's standard weapon.

Moded Types have been replaced, alot of such gear was transfered to LCBs.

 

[django]

They have.

M4 has become SSG's standard weapon.

Moded Types have been replaced, alot of such gear was transfered to LCBs.

From what I have seen both are in use, the number of M4s has certainly seemed to have increased yet their still is a high frequency of type 56 as SSG operatives seem to love it.

 

[Path-Finder]

Hazrat you either need to visit an optometrist or visit a psychologist to cure your stubbornness,,,,,, your claims are absurd to say the least, of course they are using type 56.

|You know stepping away from SSG for a sec, The SSU of Sindh Police who are the SWAT unit in Sindh they always have M4 or AR based rifle.....BUT Type 56 is also used by them!! All based on mission specific something they got from SSG!! To say that Type 56 is completely shelved (like USSOCOM completely ditched SCAR) completely would be wrong.

 

[django]

|You know stepping away from SSG for a sec, The SSU of Sindh Police who are the SWAT unit in Sindh they always have M4 or AR based rifle.....BUT Type 56 is also used by them!! All based on mission specific something they got from SSG!! To say that Type 56 is completely shelved (like USSOCOM completely ditched SCAR) completely would be wrong.

Absolutely, it is a weapon you cannot go wrong with and will be seen amongst the ranks of our armed forces for many years to come.Kudos

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

From what I have seen both are in use, the number of M4s has certainly seemed to have increased yet their still is a high frequency of type 56 as SSG operatives seem to love it.

Im quoting an SSG officer, who was also part of Zarb e Azab, his last mission was shawal.

Ive also yet to see any recent pics of SSG using type series.

 

[Inception-06]

M was deployed in few numbers .. than army dumped it due to unspecified reasons

really sad !

 

[Gryphon]

Did these come relatively recently? How are they doing? Any chance of them re-evaluating the MPT-76 (with MKEK's claimed improvements)?

Three more OEM's (MKEK, possibly SIG Sauer and 1 other) joined the trials after March.

The earlier 5 OEM's had winter trials in February 2016 (in GB). Not sure when & where the other 3 had winter trials but in September 2016, three (out of eight) OEM's were shortlisted. And you know who those three are.

 

[Naveed66]

Three more OEM's (MKEK, possibly SIG Sauer and 1 other) joined the trials after March.

The earlier 5 OEM's had winter trials in February 2016 (in GB). Not sure when & where the other 3 had winter trials but in September 2016, three (out of eight) OEM's were shortlisted. And you know who those three are.

So you mean that 3 rifles (sig. Mpt 76 and one more ) were tested before raheel sharif visit pof in march 2016. While only 5 rifles were shown during raheel sharif visit. Please tell us the other one that are unknown to us. Im sure it will not be chinese.

 

[Zarvan]

So you mean that 3 rifles (sig. Mpt 76 and one more ) were tested before raheel sharif visit pof in march 2016. While only 5 rifles were shown during raheel sharif visit. Please tell us the other one that are unknown to us. Im sure it will not be chinese.

They joined later

 

[Thunder.Storm]

#ModernWeapons The FN 40GL, also known as MK 13 Mod 0 is a single shot manual pump action grenade launcher that fires 40mm grenades. It is an integral part of the SCAR weapon system that has been selected by SOCOM to replace a number of existing systems, including the M203 grenade launcher. The MK 13 Mod 0 can be fitted to either the FN SCAR MK 16 or MK 17 rifles, using separate mountings, or configured as a stand alone launcher.
The MK 13 Mod 0 can fire the same selection of 40 mm grenades as the M203:

M406 High-Explosive round (H-E)
M433 High-Explosive Dual Purpose (HEDP)
M576 Buckshot
M670 Smoke Canopy
M585 White Star Cluster
M651 Tactical CS Grenade

The FN40GL is deemed a third generation grenade launcher, meaning it is multifunctional: it can be used mounted to the rifle or as a standalone system; it is manufactured using a number of materials like aluminum, composites, and polymers; the breech opens to the side for use of longer 40 mm rounds including less-lethal; and it is mounted on the bottom accessory rail instead of requiring specialized mounting hardware. The FN40GL is attached to SCAR rifles on the bottom rail with a trigger adapter and dual locking clamp levers on the launcher, limiting the ability to integrate with other rifles. Barrel length is 240 mm (9.6 in), and is unique in that it is the only system where the barrel can swivel to the left or right for loading, while other breech loading launchers pivot specifically to one side. This enhances its ambidextrousness, making it easy for a left-handed operator to load under fire. The standalone stock assembly has the FN40GL mounted to the bottom rail as with the rifle, but still has 3 o’clock, 6 o’clock, and 9 o’clock rail positions for other accessories. This is mainly during non-lethal uses for other mounted additions like LED lights and laser dazzlers. The trigger is placed lower than normal for operation with the user's middle finger, w,hile keeping their trigger finger free to use the rifle. The double-action trigger is long and heavy to prevent easily and unintentionally firing a round under stress.

 

[JK!]

Test and adjust. That's what an infantryman does to build up his position before taking a shot.

Have any of the manufacturers that took part in the trial indicated they would look to improve their product based on the findings of the trials to tailor the weapon to suit Pakistani needs?

 

[ali_raza]

Test and adjust. That's what an infantryman does to build up his position before taking a shot.

Have any of the manufacturers that took part in the trial indicated they would look to improve their product based on the findings of the trials to tailor the weapon to suit Pakistani needs?

i guess CZ says that

 

[Path-Finder]

i guess CZ says that

 

[Vergennes]

Ok,not probably related to this thread,but still an interesting fact. According to recent datas,Pakistan represented 13% of the Wallonia's region military exports,meaning it was its second most important customer after Saudi Arabia wich represents 37%! Then comes the United States with 12% and the rest of the world with 36%.

Pakistan still remains an important and loyal customer for the region's military companies.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Horus @Zarvan @Path-Finder @Arsalan @TheOccupiedKashmir

 

[Arsalan]

I heard SIG also creates issues in selling weapons to us and they would have never given us TOT

Actually, SIG have a piece there in our trials SIR!
So i am not sure where you got that ToT thing. One of there gun is actually being evaluated by us.

Test and adjust. That's what an infantryman does to build up his position before taking a shot.

Have any of the manufacturers that took part in the trial indicated they would look to improve their product based on the findings of the trials to tailor the weapon to suit Pakistani needs?

An improved version of one of the contenders have already been presented and is part of evaluation now, I can confirm this about at least one rifle. A new caliber variant have been presented by one as well and one more is likely to do the same.

Also i have heard (but this part is not confirm as it was at a junior level) that China have thrown in a late option to be considered as well, they played it smart, took all the time, kept following the development and at last moments have pitched something from there side. However please take this with a pinch of salt as the guy confirming this is not even directly involved with guns and works in a different section of POF (involved in those APFSDs and stuff). Also i personally hope that this in not the case as all other front runners CZ BERN and SCAR along with Beretta have excellent export potential, the Chinese option may not be great in that field.

M was deployed in few numbers .. than army dumped it due to unspecified reasons

The decision had not much to do with the performance or lack of it. Type 56 was preferred in CQB that is what we were mostly involved in.