If I remember correctly, India began its SLV development in the 70s. Next, if the Indians did indeed have the tech in the 60s then it should have been no problem integrating it into their early missiles. This only casts more doubts on the indigenous-ness of the said SLV or the claim that it was solid fueled.
Usual jokes by Pakistani members.Yes India's SLV development started back in 70s,before that we had Rohini Sounding Rocket range which couls carry a payload of 100 kg to altitude of 550 km.We had Solid fuel technology when we started development of our Agni Range BMs(agni TD flew back in 92),but ISRO and DRDO are different ventures.
And you guess you know more about SLV than ISRO themselves?
The areas which you have stated are areas in which Pakistan isn't even interested to venture in and/or has no need to (at least, we have never never officially acknowledge the efforts to do so), except for the IRBM perhaps. Its interesting how you call it foul play when we acquire missile tech but somehow the Russian Brahmos is still all fair game...more over you forget the LO Ra'ad and the Babur, which came way before the Brahmos and still have no parallel in Indian inventory.
Better word would be-doesnt have capability to.And yes Brahmos engine is a modified russian onee and so is airframe,but it contains many Indian components,but let me ask you a question-who designed turbojet of babur?Do pakistan have capability to develop a turbofan?
Too many holes in this one. First, which shaman suddenly declared India's superiority in missile propulsion. Like I said before, we did bring the solid rocket motors way before you guys did and I'm sure our guys
haven't been sitting on their behinds sipping chai since then.
No,India did that long before-check out HS9 stage used as first stage of Agni TD,Agni II and Agni IV .That was dereived from first stage of Indian SLV which flew back in 1979!And even today advancement like worlds third largest SRB proves our technological advantage.
Second, India has claimed to be working on many things, but seldom do we see results, if any at all. I'll have to take the 'better R&D and
experience' as a shamanistic claim as well, i guess.
Failures sre not uncommon in these fields,but it is a truth that India has a much better R&D - be that any field - space ,nuclear power,electonics
Third, haven't you heard about the Pakistani satellites and our access to Beidou?
Pakistani access to Beidou,well I dont know much.But Pakistani space program has acheived sending a chinese manufactured sat-Paksat 1R made by great wall corporation on chinese SLVs
Foreign help or no foreign help, still doesn't take anything away from the fact that whatever concrete data we have on the same tier missiles puts Pakistani missiles ahead of India's. There are no copyrights or IPs in this arena. If the copied missile is better then it will give you a better boom as well. Because believe it or not, you won't be able to restrict the copier from using his weapons under claims that it is not original. And that initial, and maybe still continuing, foreign help only means that it's improbable that India has caught up.
I'm sure the Indians didn't have any foreign help in developing the SLV from Russia but I also see the SLBM producing, moon monitoring country still struggling to produce a proper LCA for their forces, which they so direly need. "Our SLBMs,ICBMs and Quasi ballistic missiles are.best in class"....well then I'm sure you must be intimately familiar with all the SLBMs,ICBMs and Quasi ballistic missiles in the world.
Foolish argument to say the least- Here we see India developing advanced category of missiles-ICBMs,SLBMs,Quasi Ballistic Missiles and Supersonic Cruise misailes.On what basis do you say you are better-only field in which Pakistan have an edge is subsonic CM.
You have effectively avoided discussion on SLBMs,SAMs and QBMs and wanted to direct the discussion towards conventional land based BMs-even in that field India has an edge-Remember Agni V and Agni III?
You are arguing that Pakistan is not intrested in SLBMs-here the topic is a Pakistani SLBM!
And I didnt say our ICBMs,QBMs and SLBMs are all best in class.What I meant is that Shaurya is worlds longest range QBM-and hence best in class,K 15 is probabily the only submarine launched quasi ballistic missile and K4 SLBM is said to be quasi ballistic-unique and one of best,again.
And so typical,you have started to bash LCA-LCA has met parameters set for it when its development started,but IAF want a more capable one now.But now let me ask you,can pakistan develop a fourth generation jet on its own?