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@Secur @kurup

Please don't argue about petty things. Potential of developing state of the art systems is on both sides of the border. As long as both nations have the weapons of deterrence, their source or nature does not matter.

Not discussing petty things but a continuation of a conversation from another thread , although off-topic here .
@Oscar @Aeronaut

So instead of deleting the off-topic comments about missiles , please move it to this thread if possible .

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...20-pakistani-missiles-vs-indian-missiles.html
 
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Yes! That's why its taking so much time, miniaturization is always tricky and difficult.

But the problem is in developing a tiny nuclear plant compact enough to fit into this tiny sub .
 
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But the problem is in developing a tiny nuclear plant compact enough to fit into this tiny sub .

Nuclear submarines are far more expensive to build and run.
The economy only comes in size.
There is no point in sticking a nuclear reactor in a small submarine with no capacity of launcning a massive nuclear attack.

Even if a country does it for some reason,still it cant be justified,as the crew will still need food and the sub will have to surface or dock to take food supplies,since the sub is small it cant store much food,it will have to surface or dock very often,and the whole point of having a nuclear sub will be lost.

In addition to the facts above the smallest ever nuclear sub was skate class,and that too was a 2900 tonner.

So until the time you see PN with a 3000 tonner under the sea,no chance of PN having a nuclear sub.
 
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Progress has been made, strategic interests of certain actors insures project has plenty of steam.

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Most probably its in development but it will not come out anytime soon thanks to mega politicians corruption & corrupt Benazir income support program which is eating up PD budget since PPP.
 
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Pakistan's Defence forces , specially Pakistan's Navy has been quite vocal of arrival of Russian Nuclear powered submarine to Indian shore. Pakistan Navy chief has already told US Defence Magazine that arrival of Russian Nuclear powered submarine and India’s own Indigenous development ,will have adverse effect on its operational capability in Indian ocean . and also mentioned that Pakistani navy is already working on plans to counter this latest threat put forward by Indian Navy .

Indian Defence Experts believe that Pakistan is already working on a counter plans and might just surprise Indian pretty soon in future by producing or acquiring a Nuclear powered submarine . Pakistan always has a quieter way of weapons acquisition and even managed to keep many defence project low key affair .

Rakesh Sharma Indian Defence Expert told that “General Musharraf way back in 2006 had mentioned to a Pak daily that technology for development of a Nuclear Submarine existed in Pakistan”, but its seems help will come from its tried and tested friend china .

China has per media will be supplying 6 conventional attack submarine of Qing class , which will be equipped with a Stirling-cycle AIP system and will be able to carry up to three nuclear warhead-carrying CJ-10K LACMs each. The double-hulled Qing-class SSK, with a submerged displacement close to 3,600 tonnes, bears a close resemblance to the Russian Type 636M SSK, and features hull-retractable foreplanes and hydrodynamically streamlined sail.

Experts suggests that Pakistan’s nuclear submarine is likely to be based on the Qing Class Chinese SSK. highly advanced electric propulsion system of Qing Class Chinese SSK will able Pakistan to replace diesel engine power generation with a nuclear power plant.

Pakistan also has the expertise of submarine construction , with potential help may have been the transfer of technology from France with the Agosta 90B submarine purchase. A number of key technologies were transferred including design and development skills and tools. Building of hulls and experience with Western subsystems, many of which are used in the French nuclear submarines would help the Pakistani SSN / SSBN.


Pakistan with expertise and transfers of technology from China , will be able to field their first nuclear submarine in next 5 to 8 years and brand it “Indigenous “. But experts have difference of opinion on usage of this submarine in both forces , While Nuclear Submarine in Indian navy will complete Nuclear 2nd strike option for India , but Pakistani nuclear submarine might be built to attack prized Indian Aircraft carriers in case of conflict . India who will have 3 or more fleet of aircraft carriers in near future will always be Pakistani navies prime target , even in 1971 Indo-Pak war , Indian aircraft carrier was always a prize target for them .

Pakistan's Nuclear Submarine Development Analysis | ASIAN DEFENCE NEWS
 
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