Pakistan's Internet censorship

[xdrive]

It's sad pakistan doesnt have free speech

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Yeah the only thing which can stop any bad thing going on in the world is "just Ignore it".....

If someone rapes a girl ignore it coz its not your issue let the girl deal with it....

If you are a victim of theft ignore it coz the thieve will find his punishment on the day of judgment...

If someone kills your brother ignore it coz he will be dealt harshly at the day of judgment

If someone abuses your mother and says her a prostitute ignore it coz someday he will get the punishment

if someone draws nude pics of your sister ignore it coz its freedom of speech and state has no right to stop him....

if someone is making pornographic movies ignore it no matter how much this is exploiting our young generation this not the matter of concern of a state because banning them will be against freedom of speech

That is utter BS.

The rape of a girl is an act of physical violence against a human being.

The act of theft is a forced and tangible loss of property for a human being.

The act of murder is an act of physical violence against a human being.

These are in no way comparable to the following:

If someone abuses your mother and says her a prostitute ignore it coz someday he will get the punishment

if someone draws nude pics of your sister ignore it coz its freedom of speech and state has no right to stop him....

Absolutely the above is freedom of speech, as is the drawing of a comic - if you cannot act like an adult and handle 'speech' then go back to class two and pick fights with the other second graders over 'insults'.

 

[Aslan]

Dude I am not lecturing anyone, just saying that this bloody business will not stop no matter what happens and slowly this will become a mass movement.

And still you all can go to hell for what we care!

 

[khanz]

Pakistan bans Facebook over Prophet Mohammed drawing competition | Mail Online

I can understand why they're upset but these people have really gone overboard.How can you call yourself an islamic group but have a banner encouraring murder ? it's ironic they don't follow the prophet's example and do the exact opposite of how he acted in his life look at the crazy signs they have up absolutely nuts

 

[Bas_tum_Pak]

drawmohammed.com

This web is hacked by turkish hackerz!

These types of Websites and Youtube and many more that contain blasphemous Material has been blocked in Saudi Arabia for Years.

So If Pakistan do this , What is Problem ? It is in Pakistan Constitution that Any thing against Muhammad (P.b.u.h) will not be tolerated.

 

[Skeptic]

Anyways. Congrats to all those who were offended. The page has been removed by facebook.

 

[khanz]

pakistan unfriends facebook

Over the past four years or so, Pakistanis have become addicted to Facebook. The social networking website is home to local celebrities, including former President Pervez Musharraf, who recenctly began using the website as a way to update his "fans" about his speaking engagements and his new political party. It has spawned a culture of its own -- fashion designers and musicians use Facebook as a marketing tool, tagging pictures is a full-time activity, and local telecom operators have used Facebook's mobile services as a selling-point. After former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was assassinated and curiosity about her children grew, British tabloids published images of her son, Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari, that were taken from his Facebook page. Pakistani grandparents use Facebook as a way to communicate with grandchildren living outside of Pakistan, and the five Americans who were arrested on suspicion of involvement in terrorism last year reportedly used it to try and get in touch with militant groups.

But all of that has come to an end -- until May 31, at least. Earlier today, the Lahore High Court ordered that access to Facebook be blocked in Pakistan. The move came after a petition was filed in the court by a forum of Islamic lawyers protesting a Facebook page called "Everybody Draw Mohammad Day," which begun as a protest itself against a radical group which had objected to a depiction of the Prophet on the animated U.S. television program, South Park. Facebook users in Pakistan had campaigned on the social networking website to ‘report' the page to Facebook authorities, but no action was taken.

Not surprisingly, Pakistanis across Pakistan have protested against Facebook. Pakistan sees protests on a daily basis against issues ranging from the electricity crisis, mass layoffs, or Aafia Siddiqui's case.

While one Indian Twitter user joked that the difference between Jamaat-ud-Dawa and Facebook in Pakistan was that the front group for the militant organization Lashkar-e-Taiba is banned, it highlighted Pakistan's ironic tendency to act only when it comes to blasphemous content and not content that affects the state's security. Hateful and derogatory literature is available openly in Pakistan, and the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority has not attempted to block YouTube channels such as that of the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan or videos of hate-laden speeches by Jaish-e-Muhammad leader Masood Azhar. Objectionable content is available on scores of different websites. Facebook was not the first to be blocked in Pakistan. What might be next?

Pakistan has an unfortunate history of blocking websites it believes are objectionable for blasphemy reasons. In 2006, Blogger.com and all blogspot.com addresses were blocked in Pakistan in the wake of the Danish cartoons controversy. Since the cartoon images had been posted on blogs hosted by Blogger, the entire website was pulled down for at least two months.

This February, YouTube was temporarily blocked for almost an hour. Once service had been restored, internet users in Pakistan discovered that the video that had been blocked was of President Asif Ali Zardari allegedly screaming ‘shut up' to someone while addressing a crowd.

Ever-enterprising Pakistanis will undoubtedly find a way around the Facebook ban. When blogspot.com was blocked, a rerouting address was created for blogs hosted on the website. At least this time, Pakistan's ban did not affect the website in question the world over. In 2008, a Pakistani government attempt to block YouTube caused hours of downtime for YouTube users around the globe.

The new Facebook ban reflects the laws of Pakistan, where blasphemy is punishable by death or life imprisonment. But it also leads me to question the sense of a legal system that ordered an entire website blocked for the content of one page and points to the inanity of those who believe blocking the website in Pakistan will somehow stop would-be cartoonists. I also have to ask what this judgment will do to the morale of the thousands of young students who in 2007 mobilized to campaign for the restoration of Pakistan's judiciary and organized protests of then-President Musharraf's imposition of emergency rule -- using Facebook.

Saba Imtiaz works for The Express Tribune, an English-language newspaper in Pakistan.

Why Pakistan's Facebook Ban Doesn't Make Sense - By Saba Imtiaz | The AfPak Channel

 

[WAQAS119]

The best thing would be to start a page called, We Forgive You, Thats What Our Prohpet Mohammed (PBUH) Taught Us.

Someone make this page and make us proud.

really good idea...

 

[Adios Amigo]

It's sad pakistan doesnt have free speech

Thanks for your concerns, But I bet it has more means of free speech then Australia, And that's why you are unaware of it.

BTW majority of Pakistanis are jubilant upon this ban, so no need to feel sad. Cheer up!!






Adios

 

[WAQAS119]

Try www.stupidcensorship.com

lol,,,,,,,,,,,,, banned.

 

[khanz]

I hate to say it but this is probably the first time i'm in agreement with majority of indian members in a thread

 

[T-Faz]

Anyways. Congrats to all those who were offended. The page has been removed by facebook.

The ban from Pakistan is a major cause for this, similar to what youtube did. Pakistan had to do to this because it was hurting the sentiments of many people, PTA should put facebook on again and release a statement.

 

[Patriot]

It was NOT banned. Some people were spreading lies without varification

Dude it was banned.Check the first page screenshot.I am not a noob.So i did a tracert and the ip was terminating at PIE"s exchange instead of wikipedia server.Also wikipedia was opening just fine through my server ssh tunnel.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

same goes for super duper literate and civilized societies you are defending...

If someone has problem with VEIL and Minar, then why they are enforcing their point of view via force i.e., resolutions in parliament.

I don't agree with those decisions either, and they too reflect an intolerant and prejudiced mindset - the rise of Islamophobia and anti-immigrant sentiment in Europe is IMO reflective of the decay of Europe, to the point where it is now retreating into primitive attitudes once again.

But that said, I find it amusing that you wish to justify intolerance because of someone elses intolerance - its like justifying your crime because someone else also committed a crime, and both Europeans and Muslims are guilty of this flawed reasoning.

Societies doesn't go like that the way you presented. These things look good only in books but reality is very different.

Reality is different because people are allowing their intolerance and prejudice to take over rational thinking.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

BS decision - Muslims need to grow a thicker skin instead of being 'offended' over facebook comics.

The GoP (PPP) is basically caving in to the religious lobby and enforcing draconian and intolerant decisions to deflect attention away from its failures in governance, much like the PPP caved into religious extremists under ZA Bhutto and legalized intolerance, discrimination and prejudice against a community with the laws against Ahmadis.

Why shouldn't people discuss whatever they want? Its their choice.

If you disagree with that and choose to boycott FB, then do it yourself, why are you forcing your decision on everyone else?

And on this point of 'discussing whatever they want' and 'freedom and liberalism', just look at where the West is, in terms of being developed societies that offer every imaginable service to their citizens, continue to make scientific and technological achievements, and then see where the Muslim world is, still obsessed with petty issues and Mullah ideology over banning websites and ending fahashi.

With this kind of attitude the Muslim world will continue to excel at only one thing, 'anti-fahashi police and actions', while the rest of the world excels in science, technology, arts and literature.

Banning FB no way means we stop gaining scientific knowledge and all the progress stopes, Pls dont mix social ethics with Scientific progress and development.

Though we cannot ban FB,but as AG mentioned , A social interacting website which has users Globally should have cared for the sentiments of people which comprise a considerable numbers of there users. Despite being reported as abuse, why didnt the FB carried out appropriate actions.
I agree that we should ignore them, but does the masses here are literate enough to buy that argument and thus not opt the way of voilance, This is still a third world where many cannot swallow such utter disgrace to there beloved Prophet(PBUH) and above all they are doing it with compleet impunity. In supporting a cry against Ban, i dont see any halt in progress neither i see the scientific knowledge halting to grow in the Muslim World.
Secondly if the FB havent been baned, then already we are facing the terrorists on multiple fronts, A scenario like that will be easily exploited to enhance there ideology of Retard jihad against the infidels.

We all are well wishers of our state,be it those who are supporting the Ban or be it those who are not.But in the light of grave scenarios which we face, By Not banning FB things could have got complicated.

sorry
But I don't buy your argument.