Pakistan's Artillery Upgrade Discussions

[Bossman]

Artillery is very important weapon in indoipak conflict so both the armies are pushihi very hard for it. Both are going to get state of art artilaries in years to come. New ATAGS and pinaka 2 are great weapon systems made by India which shall give India an edge in any future conflict with pakistanP China can not provide such sophesticated weapons to pakistan.

How come when India gets something it becomes the world best super duper earth shaking weapon in the world. Let me tell you a few things. If Pinaka was so good why did India had to buy SMERCH from the Russians. As far as Pakistan is concerned it already something better than both Pinaka and SMERCH l.e A100. The rockets have guidance and extended range and they are locally made. As far ATAG, they are prototypes with imported barrels and other parts and if they were so good why is India buying M77s from the US. One of you fellow country on this forum wrote that M77 were the best thing that ever happened since the invention of gunpowder. It is a sad situation when one of the largest army’s does not have an SP gun in its inventory.

 

[HariPrasad]

Let me tell you a few things. If Pinaka was so good why did India had to buy SMERCH from the Russians.

Smearch was bought 2 decade ago before we made pinaka mk2.

 

[Bossman]

Smearch was bought 2 decade ago before we made pinaka mk2.

But what happened to Pinaka1. Total failure like Tejas and Arjun, right? Sorry Indian BS only impresses the Indians.

 

[HariPrasad]

they were so good why is India buying M77s from the US. One of you fellow country on this forum wrote that M77

Do you even know the difference between the two.? M 777is bought as it weighs just 1/4 th of our ATAGS. We can airlift this gun to any place with chopper. This is for chinese border having mountain terr terrain.

 

[Bossman]

So why did India buy SMERCH after testing Pinaka ? Also do you know that the ATAGs is being redesigned because the shells are hitting the muzzle break. Also the range of PInaka 2 is only 75 km compared to A100 with the range of 100 km and A100 has inertial guidance

 

[HariPrasad]

But what happened to Pinaka1. Total failure like Tejas and Arjun, right? Sorry Indian BS only impresses the Indians.

Pinaka 1 has proved its worth in Kargil which cleared its way in Kargil. Because it succeed, we did not buy smearch. We are now working on pinaka 3 with 120 km range 250 kg payload with guidance.

How come when India gets something it becomes the world best super duper earth shaking weapon in the world

It's not super dupperd because we buy it bur we buy super dupper only. Our gun threw the rounds at world record distance even in trial. So itsi super duper not simply because it is ours.

 

[Ultima Thule]

So why did India buy SMERCH after testing Pinaka ? Also do you know that the ATAGs is being redesigned because the shells are hitting the muzzle break. Also the range of PInaka 2 is only 75 km compared to A100 with the range of 100 km and A100 has inertial guidance

Bro don't engage with a clowns like @HariPrasad , @randomradio and @wiseone2 those guys think that india have or going to be have weapons is/will be out this universe, 100000000000 gen ahead from rest of the world @Bossman

 

[HariPrasad]

Bro don't engage with a clowns like @HariPrasad , @randomradio and @wiseone2 those guys think that india have or going to be have weapons is/will be out this universe, 100000000000 gen ahead from rest of the world @Bossman

Well come.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Well come.

You live in this world you stupid sir @HariPrasad not on mars or another galaxy you stupid sir @HariPrasad

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Is it 155x52?

If you are asking about caliber then yes 155mm 52 caliber

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

So why did India buy SMERCH after testing Pinaka ? Also do you know that the ATAGs is being redesigned because the shells are hitting the muzzle break. Also the range of PInaka 2 is only 75 km compared to A100 with the range of 100 km and A100 has inertial guidance

A) Pinaka has a range of 35km
B) Pinaka 2 is under development and not in service , it’s range is around 60km.
C)A-100 is much more advanced than anything you have and it’s range is over 120Km.
D)Pakistan has KRL-122 whose range is 45-50km.
E)A-100
F) And a new AMLRS is under development by Pak.

 

[Arsalan]

Why not we have M110s in our inventory

Sir the plan is to phase them out as well, go to an all 155mm arsenal!
The only exception i can see (or HOPE for to be honest) is lighter artillery (towed) that can be transported by our helicopter fleet. All other (SPH and Towed) will be gradually phased out to have an all 155mm inventory.

 

[fatman17]

Sir the plan is to phase them out as well, go to an all 155mm arsenal!
The only exception i can see (or HOPE for to be honest) is lighter artillery (towed) that can be transported by our helicopter fleet. All other (SPH and Towed) will be gradually phased out to have an all 155mm inventory.

203mm is very effective from behind operational lines esp at the start of a attack, combined with MLRS.

 

[araz]

You live in this world you stupid sir @HariPrasad not on mars or another galaxy you stupid sir @HariPrasad

Please no name calling. Respond with proof or ignore, but dont break forum rules.
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[Arsalan]

203mm is very effective from behind operational lines esp at the start of a attack, combined with MLRS.

That indeed is true sir but as per authorities or their vision if i may say, different caliber guns, maintaining supply of different ammunition to front line presents a much tougher task. Something that may very well offset the benefits of long range. Plus now with advancement in ammunition, advanced VLAP rounds, Rocket assisted (RA) and Base Bleed (BB) the 155mm more of less meat the range criteria as well and what little it lacks it makes more in terms of standardization to one single caliber! The long range tasks can also be handled by MLRS as you said. It is the ability to be transported by choppers that will come in handy, especially for a country with terrain like ours (Norther areas). That is where a light caliber gun that we can transport by helicopters SHOULD be considered an exception to this standardization as there are limited options in 155mm category that we can airlift if required (Just two in fact, M777 (USA) and AH4 (Norinco-China)). This is where the South Africa G7 (105mm) SHOULD be inducted as an exception. It also nearly matches the characteristics (range and accuracy) of most of 155mm