Pakistan's Artillery Upgrade Discussions

[Signalian]

My dear our tracked SP guns will all be obsolete. All our potent guns are 155MM/39 calibre, while India is headed towards 155/52 caliber. We will soon be outgunned in tube artillery, but we are head on rocket artillery. This tit of tat arms race is a real drain on our nations blood.

Correct. K-9 to be procured by IA is ahead of M-109 of PA.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

whats the difference b/w 155/52 caliber and 155/39 caliber
whats the caliber of m109 we have

Calibre Lengths. 155MM is NATO Standard, and 39 is caliber lengths. 52 is longer than 39, but there are other performance parameters as well in artillery.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Calibre Lengths. 155MM is NATO Standard, and 39 is caliber lengths. 52 is longer than 39, but there are other performance parameters as well in artillery.

What are your thoughts about procuring new lightweight howitzers in the 105 mm (e.g. MKEK Boran weighs 1,710 kg) or even 155 mm (e.g. NORINCO AH4 - weighs 4,500 kg)

 

[monitor]

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

What are your thoughts about procuring new lightweight howitzers in the 105 mm (e.g. MKEK Boran weighs 1,710 kg) or even 155 mm (e.g. NORINCO AH4 - weighs 4,500 kg)

unless sitting on a jeep for rapid shoot and scoot, no joy.

 

[Blue Marlin]

any news on the nora b52 or the t5-52?
@Bilal Khan (Quwa)

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

any news on the nora b52 or the t5-52?
@Bilal Khan (Quwa)

Nope. But in Sept. 2017 MKEK said that Pakistan was interested in seeing the firing results of their Yavuz SPH system. So, Pakistan is probably still looking.

 

[Gryphon]

Have we still such HIGH (ca.400) numbers of the M30 122mm Gun in service ? (last time I did see this guns was in 2009 in operation against TTP).

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Pakistani army troops arrive with their artillery in the Umar Abad area outside the troubled Buner district on April 29, 2009.

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Type 54-1 towed howitzer in 2012

@Signalian @Ulla

When was the last time 130mm Type 59-1 field guns were reported / pictured in GB/AJK? I think PA has replaced them with 122mm D-30 and 105mm M101 in these areas

M101

 

[Inception-06]

Type 54-1 towed howitzer in 2012

@Signalian @Ulla

When was the last time 130mm Type 59-1 field guns were reported / pictured in GB/AJK? I think PA has replaced them with 122mm D-30 and 105mm M101 in these areas

M101

I dont think that they have retired the Type 54-1, there is no reason to do so.

 

[Gryphon]

I dont think that they have retired the Type 54-1, there is no reason to do so.

Yes they will remain in service. Do you have any pic/video of 130mm field gun Type 59-1 on LOC?

what is the status of Panter? how many we produced?

One Panter came for trials, but the type never made it to Pakistan Army service.

Army scrapped the 155mm towed howitzer tender, procured 36 D-30 howitzers at a low price of US$ 150,000 each, KH-179 upgrade to in service M114 howitzers is being considered along with new base bleed ammo production at POF (under license from a European company), so that the 39 caliber howitzers could fire to a range > than 30km and the 52 cals over 40km.

 

[Zarvan]

Type 54-1 towed howitzer in 2012

@Signalian @Ulla

When was the last time 130mm Type 59-1 field guns were reported / pictured in GB/AJK? I think PA has replaced them with 122mm D-30 and 105mm M101 in these areas

M101

The line We would Love to fire was the best one

 

[Inception-06]

Yes they will remain in service. Do you have any pic/video of 130mm field gun Type 59-1 on LOC?



One Panter came for trials, but the type never made it to Pakistan Army service.

Army scrapped the 155mm towed howitzer tender, procured 36 D-30 howitzers at a low price of US$ 150,000 each, KH-179 upgrade to in service M114 howitzers is being considered along with new base bleed ammo production at POF (under license from a European company), so that the 39 caliber howitzers could fire to a range > than 30km and the 52 cals over 40km.

I have only pics from 1999, which you can find very easy at google.

 

[Basel]

I have only pics from 1999, which you can find very easy at google.

If you have pics from Kargil war then you can share it here.

 

[Inception-06]

If you have pics from Kargil war then you can share it here.

welcome bro but that would only a repost, had posted it many time, wait I will search the post.

 

[Basel]

welcome bro but that would only a repost, had posted it many time, wait I will search the post.

Bro some times you have to remind world what you can do if attacked.