Pakistan's Artillery Upgrade Discussions

[Path-Finder]

does these surbian guns are capable?

best to ask @proka89

 

[proka89]

best to ask @proka89

According to some info Nora is capable to do MRSI with 3 rounds, but i can't say for sure.

 

[Basel]

well the problem would be, that it will have to be driven to operational area like tanks on truck and then made operational, while truck chassis based can be driven and ready to use!

Yes but Pakistan also need advance track mounted 155mm guns as 109s are not in sufficient numbers and PA will need more similar systems and this gun seems good as more 109s are not possible in future.

 

[Signalian]

Yes but Pakistan also need advance track mounted 155mm guns as 109s are not in sufficient numbers and PA will need more similar systems and this gun seems good as more 109s are not possible in future.

why is M 109 not in sufficient numbers?

 

[Basel]

why is M 109 not in sufficient numbers?

I don't know, but current numbers are below desired requirements, as PA want those with all attacking and defending units specially in areas of Punjab and Sindh bordering India.

 

[Signalian]

I don't know, but current numbers are below desired requirements, as PA want those with all attacking and defending units specially in areas of Punjab and Sindh bordering India.

The new batch of 115 seems to have been absorbed in older units. if you have info of new SP units raised through induction of these 115, do share.

 

[Basel]

The new batch of 115 seems to have been absorbed in older units. if you have info of new SP units raised through induction of these 115, do share.

Currently had no info regarding this?

 

[ali_raza]

Currently had no info regarding this?

what about new orders being formulated what are these for?

 

[Path-Finder]

Yes but Pakistan also need advance track mounted 155mm guns as 109s are not in sufficient numbers and PA will need more similar systems and this gun seems good as more 109s are not possible in future.

The world is moving quickly towards Truck Chassis based Howitzers for a reason! So is PA if 500 wheeled SP are being sought then it is for good reason.

Anything that is tracked will burden you with extra unnecessary logistics which wheeled simply doesn't have.

 

[British SAS]

Nora and Denel both offer great products... Greater cooperation with both Serbia and South Africa will prove to be fruitful; the latter can assist with the JF-17 programme, amongst other things. I would imagine 'Nora' would be selected on this occasion. Conversely, the 'light artillery' shortage needs to be addressed.. That particular cupboard is bare.

 

[mdcp]

The denel artiliary is towed with truck and also got option to drive atleast two km on its own and i think that is added advantage

 

[ali_raza]

The denel artiliary is towed with truck and also got option to drive atleast two km on its own and i think that is added advantage

how it drives itself

 

[mdcp]

how it drives itself[/QUOTE

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Sorry for mistake, it is basically towed with heavy truck or machinery and also has function that some driver can drive it upto two km with low speed without any vehicle, if you look at front left there is seat for driver and steering etc and it got 4 single tyre ( double axle type) with canon and two tyres with arms used for towing so all in all it got 6 wheels etc

 

[ali_raza]

maybe some engine is installed or maybe backup power battery power the motors

 

[Basel]

what about new orders being formulated what are these for?

PA desired full SP Artillery capabilty due to its advantage since long as towed are bit difficult to rapidly deploy, so might be they are trying to achieve that.

The world is moving quickly towards Truck Chassis based Howitzers for a reason! So is PA if 500 wheeled SP are being sought then it is for good reason.

Anything that is tracked will burden you with extra unnecessary logistics which wheeled simply doesn't have.

Trackef has its advantages they are good in sindh and areas of punjab wheeled ones are good on roads but in dessert tracked ones are prefered.