Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[SBD-3]

Phalcon is a superior system,the E3C (Sentry)is an older system.

Do really think that USAF would like to operate somthing inferior to lead?

 

[SQ8]

Blain I was talking about the E-3... my bad though.. should have mentioned it.

 

[SBD-3]

E3 is indeed an older system and has its drawbacks but rest assured that its not inferior to any systems around. The USAF has had a constant upgradation o fthese systems and even now they offer performance at least on par with all of the operational systems out there.

If E3 is an old system them why PAF had it in first preference?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

we wanted the E-3 Sentry

american would only sell us the E-2 hawkeyes......






p.s. P-3Cs in navy are using same radar as hawkeye

 

[SBD-3]

we wanted the E-3 Sentry

american would only sell us the E-2 hawkeyes......






p.s. P-3Cs in navy are using same radar as hawkeye

but why Pakistan wanted an "inferior" platform if E3 is less advanced than phalcon

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

but why Pakistan wanted an "inferior" platform if E3 is less advanced than phalcon

we did not want anything "inferior" brother Hasnain.

e-3 is FAR from being inferior. As somebody else pointed out, why in hell would USAF operate something that is "out-dated" and not constantly upgraded to meet today's defence challenges


no reason at all. US/NATO underwent RSIP Program (google it) to modify and update the radar/warning systems + command stations of the aircraft


among other things:

This hardware and software modification to the E-3 improves radar set performance providing enhanced detection of targets, with an emphasis toward those with a low radar cross section (RCS). Major advantages include: Increased range against reduced RCS targets to include cruise missiles; Improved electronic counter-counter measures (ECCM) against current threats; Improved radar system reliability and maintainability (R&M); and Improved radar control and maintenance panel (RCMP) with embedded test equipment. RSIP utilizes a Pulse Doppler Pulse Compression (PDPC) waveform, increases data sampling rates, increases range and velocity resolution, increases signal integration time, adds new signal processing algorithms to enhance detection sensitivity and unambiguous range determination, and improves radar set monitoring and control. RSIP is a huge leap forward in a variety of factors. It increases the ability to detect and track smaller targets at greater distances, akin to giving the radar a set of binoculars. It also improves the reliability and maintainability for the radar hardware, which decreases the number of spares and amount of down time needed for repairs. Improved control and processing algorithms tailored to current threat data enhances system electronic counter-countermeasure (ECCM) capabilities. The improved electronic counter-counter measures mean it will be much more difficult for enemy forces to deceive or "jam" the AWACS with false electronic signals.

E-3 Sentry (AWACS) Radar System Improvement Program (RSIP)






in Pakistan's case, our doctrine is different. We are defence-based as well as offensive-defence. We need credible deterrant in our Arsenal which meets our requirements and our price range (and which is compatible with our fleet of aircrafts).

That is where the Saab-2000 Erieye comes in. And it is a damn good aircraft.

 

[TangoViking]

Recently the first PAF aircraft in the Saab Horizon Programme flew in Sweden with the full suite of mission systems onboard and with the radar and coms operative. PAF personnel onboard.

Also Sweden's military in June took delivery of two upgraded Saab 340 which has 3 operator stations and full AEW&C capability, work on Thai a/c is under way, so all Erieye programs is progressing well.

The BOW-21 ESM on the PAF a/c give under 1 degree direction finding accuracy against emitters in 360 coverage, passive long range near 100% POI. Based on threat libraries it determines type and position and presents it on screen. Unclassified capacity is 1000 tracked emitters and 8000 on the library.

ESM tracking doesn't expose you. But radar does and should be used wisely.

 

[mughaljee]

TangoViking
Some footage please.

 

[TangoViking]

TangoViking
Some footage please.

Tried... but I haven't got that kind of post rights on this forum.

You can probably email Saab Aerosystems and get some. There's a whole new set of pictures that was shot of Erieye a/c.

 

[Munir]

Tried... but I haven't got that kind of post rights on this forum.

You can probably email Saab Aerosystems and get some. There's a whole new set of pictures that was shot of Erieye a/c.

Can you provide Neo or me the contacts/emails? We can make it available for everyone.

 

[TangoViking]

Can you provide Neo or me the contacts/emails? We can make it available for everyone.

I figured out that I can attach some jpg samples instead. The in-flight photos is some weeks ago and shot before the system trials that I mentioned. Getting the PAF scheme on is among the last stuff to do on the a/c.. but the wait will not be that long now. Other than that I suggest a email to Aerosystems via saabgroup.com emailform.

The 340 pics is from the handover to SwAF of their new ASC 890 aircraft that has been added to the UN/EU deployment register for possible international missions from year-end.

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[mughaljee]

More will be appreciated.

 

[sidharth]

paf to get their awacs by the end of october says paf chief!!

ARTICLE - Islamabad, May 29 (ANI): The Air Warning and Control System (AWACS) and the spying satellite acquired by India recently has bolstered the Indian defense system, and as expected, Pakistan is worried by the Indian ‘eye in the sky’.

Pakistan Chief of the Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman has stated that Pakistan would also acquire an Air Warning and Control System (AWACS) by October.

Suleman said India has created an “imbalance in the power” in the region, so it was important for Pakistan to balance the situation by acquiring its own early warning systems,The Daily Times reports.

Addressing a graduation ceremony at Risalpur Academy, Suleman also disclosed that during the Indo-Pak standoff in 2001-02, the Pakistan Air Force had shot down an Indian drone which had violated Pakistan’s air territory.

India’s most potent force multiplier, Phalcon AWACS, is capable of tracking down incoming missiles. The all weather system is also capable of engaging 60 targets simultaneously and has a range of 400 km.

It has a radar that can help detect cruise missiles or aircrafts at ranges much beyond the capabilities of present systems. It can also collate information about troop movements and missile launches on ground and even intercept highly secured communication networks of the enemy.

India would acquire two more AWACS by the end of the next year. (ANI)

paf is set to get 1 frm the sweden air force.

 

[Munir]

Later and later... First it as July. Then september and now already october...

 

[SBD-3]

paf to get their awacs by the end of october says paf chief!!

ARTICLE - Islamabad, May 29 (ANI): The Air Warning and Control System (AWACS) and the spying satellite acquired by India recently has bolstered the Indian defense system, and as expected, Pakistan is worried by the Indian ‘eye in the sky’.

Pakistan Chief of the Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman has stated that Pakistan would also acquire an Air Warning and Control System (AWACS) by October.

Suleman said India has created an “imbalance in the power” in the region, so it was important for Pakistan to balance the situation by acquiring its own early warning systems,The Daily Times reports.

Addressing a graduation ceremony at Risalpur Academy, Suleman also disclosed that during the Indo-Pak standoff in 2001-02, the Pakistan Air Force had shot down an Indian drone which had violated Pakistan’s air territory.

India’s most potent force multiplier, Phalcon AWACS, is capable of tracking down incoming missiles. The all weather system is also capable of engaging 60 targets simultaneously and has a range of 400 km.

It has a radar that can help detect cruise missiles or aircrafts at ranges much beyond the capabilities of present systems. It can also collate information about troop movements and missile launches on ground and even intercept highly secured communication networks of the enemy.

India would acquire two more AWACS by the end of the next year. (ANI)

paf is set to get 1 frm the sweden air force.

is he talking about Erieye or some other new platform??