Pakistani Music labelled "Music of India" on Youtube

[jamahir]

Since when is Urdu a indian language.
Are all indians as stupid as on this PDF?
India or Hindustan didnot exist before 75 years! It was british raj and before that mughal empire. Now i am in no mood to teach ignorant indian here anything. Learn history and you will see how many cultures infused with local culture in indian subcontinent and gave to new thriving cultures which are totally different from its origins.
Let me do you a favor go to dawn.com and see how indians flood the comment sections. Nobody in Pakistan give a damn about India yet politicians in India use Pakistan name for votes. Wion news, arnab which have hue following in india have been saying that civil war is gonna happen in Pakistan in coming days for LAST DECADE. Go to Aljazeera, TRT,DW, RT and see how indians flood the comment section even tho the news is not related to anything remotely Pakistani or indian.

From your member name and your thoughts you seem to be 10 years old. Here is info on Urdu :

Urdu Language – history and development​

Urdu started developing in north India around Delhi in about the 12th century. It was based on the language spoken in the region around Delhi, and it was heavily influenced by Arabic and Persian, as well as Turkish.

Urdu shares its origins with Hindi, sometimes referred to as a ‘sister’ language of Urdu due to the similar grammar base that they share. However, Hindi went on to be written in ‘Devanagri’, the same script as Sanskrit, and its vocabulary has more of a Sanskrit influence than a Persian and Arabic influence.

During the 14th and 15th centuries, much poetry and literature began to be written in Urdu. More recently, Urdu has mainly been connected with the Muslims of the Indian subcontinent, but there are many major works of Urdu literature written by Hindu and Sikh writers.

After the creation of Pakistan in 1947, Urdu was chosen to be the national language of the new country. Today Urdu is spoken in many countries around the world, including Britain, Canada, the USA, the Middle East and India. In fact there are more Urdu speakers in India than there are in Pakistan.

Further information on the history of Urdu can be found here: http://urducouncil.nic.in/pers_pp/index.htm

@Sainthood 101 @kingQamaR

 

[JX-1]

Hindi sounds like someone with a mediocre command of the Urdu language speaking, who can't pronounce "Z", and uses a lot of "Indian" sounding words (eg. "Wazir e Azam" to "pradhaan mantri"). Hindi speakers typically use more english loan words than Urdu. Written Hindi may be different as I do not read Hindi much.

And I don't want to come off as racist or anything, but to be frank, as an Urdu speaker, Hindi sounds "cheap" and outright amusing at times. Again, written Hindi may be different, but this is how spoken Hindi sounds.

 

[PakistaniFirst]

From your member name and your thoughts you seem to be 10 years old. Here is info on Urdu :

@Sainthood 101 @kingQamaR

Someone calling me a 10 year old without reading my comment which CLEARLY STATED MANY CULTURES INFUSED TOGATHER IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT TO BIRTH NEW LOCAL ONES. Urdu is derived from arabic, persian,turkish and yet any body who is fluent in those languages wont understand urdu or anybody speaking urdu wont understand those said languages. According to your logic People in USA and spain,italy are also same.

Typical indian response, given hastly without any counter logic or fact and end with calling other person "names". Only a man child would call someone a 10 year old as an insult.
Ironically a 10 year old would have more intelligence than what your collective brethren have shown here.

 

[Maula Jatt]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-timessquare-backlash-idUSTRE64655Y20100507
The above are just two examples, I can produce 100 other reports or video submissions by Pakistanis themselves. Given the actual number of Pakistanis doing it, I can't help but wonder what % of Pakistanis must be having mental health issues according to you! Also, this argument of Pakistanis: "I have never seen XYZ in Pakistan/is" etc seems to be all-pervading contrary to hard data. Another example of this is in spite of having only 42% sanitation cover vs India's 90%+ almost all Pakistanis on the internet claim to never have seen open defecation! Like have you guys never been to villages or what?! Literally 25% of Pakistan defecates in the open.

"Quite the opposite happens" - There is literally no incentive for any Indians to pass themselves off as Pakistanis in the West, especially post 9/11 but khayali pulao sahi hain dil behlane ke liye. Absolutely no one fakes their identity to reduce their status.

yes, 9/11, and during the times of tensions, Muslims, in general, were getting shot at. property being damaged, beaten up - So yes that happened during those times of high tensions and we did say we are some kinda Spanish or Indian not just we, Arabs called themselves Latinos and white Muslims started passing themselves off as just white

that was because of saving lives during a specific time in history and wasn't a Pakistan-only phenomenon but a general Muslim thing - now pajeets use the seriously dangerous situation at a specific point in history to somehow say its "going on" when it was barely some years of post 9/11 era during dangerous times, or the biggest lol for me is you thinking being a little D indian gives you "cout" braaah come here nibbas and see for yourself

 

[Maula Jatt]

That will be Indian level of pathetic. Things stop being fun when you start doing it for others. They can appropriate our music all they want but deep down they know they aren't the target audience. Do you think your average India can appreciate a Naat or a Sufiana kalam or a Qawwali like an average Pakistani would? No it is something that is uniquely ours and will remain ours, no need to get protective.

than continue to suffer and bitch and moan
cant solve your issues if you can't see your problem in the first place

 

[Indus Pakistan]

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Sorry for the bad cropping, just pointing this out. And military patriotic music of all things. Many foreigners won't be able to tell this apart. Music of Japan is never labelled music of China. Same things happen with Pakistani restaurants on Google and other search bars. Imagine if Turkish music was labelled as Greek music - Youtube would change it immediately.

What can we do about this? We should at least contact Youtube about this in some form or way. I've sent a few emails.

I have noticed that. Even Pashto songs are bracketed as 'India'. But then whose to blame? Pakistani's. When we call our food Indian, our dress Indian, our history Indian what do you expect rest of the world to do?

I often watch these vlogs by foreign food experts when they tour Pakistan. Always when they begin their trip they will say 'we had some nice authentic Pakistani breakfast'. Soon though after being exposed to how we render everything they begin saying 'tried some authentic desi food'.

Would you ever get a Indian, Italian, Greek, Turk etc callig their food 'local' or use some other synonym? Like hell.

90%+

Hahaha I thought it was 99.9% afterr Modi used the magic wand with 'Swatch'?

 

[Maula Jatt]

I have noticed that. Even Pashto songs are bracketed as 'India'. But then whose to blame? Pakistani's. When we call our food Indian, our dress Indian, our history Indian what do you expect rest of the world to do?

I often watch these vlogs by foreign food experts when they tour Pakistan. Always when they begin their trip they will say 'we had some nice authentic Pakistani breakfast'. Soon though after being exposed to how we render everything they begin saying 'tried some authentic desi food'.

Would you ever get a Indian, Italian, Greek, Turk etc callig their food 'local' or use some other synonym? Like hell.


Hahaha I thought it was 99.9% afterr Modi used the magic wand with 'Swatch'?

we have been saying desi forever, for centuries now to define ourselves before even our ethnic terms came into language this term was present, in our minds its not Indian but ours, like in our songs we'll say desi but that's not Indian, that's just me, like am a man from the village or son of the soil- to represent that feeling we'll say desi
its complicated - desi thing has been used interchangeably with your ethnicity

you know what I mean?
this desi thing is tricky business- if we had a big population we would have appropriated it as our only but now you cant

 

[Maula Jatt]

Fully agreed. Punjab always has been a cauldron of different ethnic groups. I am an Uzbek but I am born and bred in Punjab and speak the language fluently. This is the real beauty of this land, it accepts all kinds of people from all over.

We had a farsi speaking qizilbash member on Pdf from Punjab, crazy stuff with the diversity and all

Only Uzbek I know of was this fine At and t girl from the ads, Lily something

And also baba bulleh shah was ethnic Uzbek too
that's the only thing I know about Uzbek people, I heard they like pakistanis in Uzbekistan

 

[Steppe Wolff]

And also baba bulleh shah was ethnic Uzbek too
that's the only thing I know about Uzbek people, I heard they like pakistanis in Uzbekistan

Seriously love baba bulleh Shah’s kalam but didn’t know he was an Uzbek too. It all proves the crazy diversity the land of Punjab holds.

There is not much contact between Uzbeks and Pakistanis, but Pakistanis have a comparatively good reputation among them.

 

[Maula Jatt]

"barely some years" moron that article is from 2010, that's a good 9 years from 9/11 and it continues till today, as I said I can show you other videos too, many from the last 2- 3 years but even God can't help people in denial, who am I?! In case you forgot, Muslims haven't stopped blowing themselves up, killing infidels. What makes you think the Western attitude towards Muslims would change?

Denial nibba I f ing live here for decade in 3 different cities, in suburbs and in downtown, in NYC itself
I have been active in cammunity

And I can swear on everything near, dear and loved to me and may it be cursed till eternity if I am lying

I have never seen this shit in my lifetime- in 9/11 yes my own father passed himself as Colombian fro couple years as his job required him to meet public, but afterwards I haven't see it but if it happened it (which I do not know of) was during dangerous situations for a specific period of time when Thier lives were threatened - people do not know the gun culture of US, random guy walks in and kill you

It happened to many Sikhs and Muslims, so many people were shot dead, it happens to Jews, rise in anti semitism, many Jews do not tell Thier Jewish background to people cause they were also shot dead in some conservative areas

That's just the atmosphere of the country doesn't represent majority of the people but with guns, you never know what a random man would do

So as a precaution against crazy people it happened during post 9/11 years and if it happens (which I haven't seen in all these years while living here, interacting with cammunity), it was more of a precaution than anything good in India itself, people at the time literally also called themselves Latinos, Jews in rising anti semetisim just become regular whites, - but only the braindead Indians thought it was something good in them

Never saw a Latino, white saying that, using someone's life threatening times to score points and somehow use it to think his identity is better or what not

That doesn't represent the overall attitude towards Muslim or pakistanis, nowadays I live in a Republican leaning suburb with heavy white majority but we were allowed to start a small mosque and everyone is very friendly and good to us, respect us, I love the country for it's openess to everyone
But everyone has guns, I do not know what one lone wolf man would do

Also, Pakistanis are deluding themselves to have a big D despite more than 50% of **** population having similar genetic markers as the North Indians is nothing new! Maybe the Pashtuns have a bit bigger?? or may be not? oops btw this popped up as the first result on Google: https://www.worlddata.info/average-penissize.php Shows Pakis have even smaller D, that means does the South Indians have larger Ds! lol

North dindian or South dindian, make up and add shit on the internet all you want but that won't change your incel reality

That's @cocomo for posting this somewhere - this is the deep reasons behind all Thier frustrations

No one wants to be you cause just ones name being associated with your kind kill off any chances of getting swipped right on dating apps, Scam calls, tech support, unhygienic people

The only place where Indians consider themselves to be good is in India
Indians themselves desperately try to whitewash to not be associated with indianess, like literally just go to your disapora reddit, someone is always crying about it, every single day some inferiority complex ridden Indian diaspora guy opens a thread talking about racism by people, Thier shit genetics and overall vibes of God why I was born an Indian
All the signs of an incel people group

literally the most inferiority complexed people out there, we on the other hand walk around in kameez, make mosques even if we are 15 people - that's what we are, we have pride
A young Pakistani guy, girl would hate for people to give them Indian stereotypes, your own kind sound suicidal over being consider the Indian

Seriously love baba bulleh Shah’s kalam but didn’t know he was an Uzbek too. It all proves the crazy diversity the land of Punjab holds.

There is not much contact between Uzbeks and Pakistanis, but Pakistanis have a comparatively good reputation among them.

I mean that's just what an Uzbek man I knew in the US told me, I don't know Thier country, language, traditions etc to know the reality
Just going of by what I heard from him

 

[cocomo]

Indians themselves desperately try to whitewash to not be associated with indianess

LOL this made be remember a cringey Indian post from a while back. The girl was upset when she found out she was an Indian, and she was severely ridiculed in the youtube comments.

Indian girl upset about not having White ancestry

Typical Indian mentality. Entire world is making fun of her in the comments section.

defence.pk

 

[Maula Jatt]

LOL this made be remember a cringey Indian post from a while back. The girl was upset when she found out she was an Indian, and she was severely ridiculed in the youtube comments.

Indian girl upset about not having White ancestry

Typical Indian mentality. Entire world is making fun of her in the comments section.

defence.pk

go to their diaspora Reddit- they hate being Indian, cry about racism, talking about insecurities, dating issues, want to act white but say they do not feel accepted, shit talk mainland Indians constantly to show how they're so different/western than them
And it's like every couple hour, something like this emerges in Thier spaces
I saw some threads where they literally sounded suicidal over it - I was like wtf....
The society at large is f-ing with your head this much?

 

[Valiant]

This thread is an utter disgrace. I feel ashamed that I had the misfortune of reading it

 

[WotTen]

This debate has occurred so many times on this forum, so let me summarize:

- Indian used to be an adjective for Indus and referred to whole of South Asia.
- Republic of India took the name 'India' and laid exclusive claim to that adjective.
- Pakistanis don't like it but Indians claim they are the only ones who retain the ancestral culture,

Who's right? who's wrong? who knows?

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Denial nibba I f ing live here for decade in 3 different cities, in suburbs and in downtown, in NYC itself
I have been active in cammunity

And I can swear on everything near, dear and loved to me and may it be cursed till eternity if I am lying

I have never seen this shit in my lifetime- in 9/11 yes my own father passed himself as Colombian fro couple years as his job required him to meet public, but afterwards I haven't see it but if it happened it (which I do not know of) was during dangerous situations for a specific period of time when Thier lives were threatened - people do not know the gun culture of US, random guy walks in and kill you

It happened to many Sikhs and Muslims, so many people were shot dead, it happens to Jews, rise in anti semitism, many Jews do not tell Thier Jewish background to people cause they were also shot dead in some conservative areas

That's just the atmosphere of the country doesn't represent majority of the people but with guns, you never know what a random man would do

So as a precaution against crazy people it happened during post 9/11 years and if it happens (which I haven't seen in all these years while living here, interacting with cammunity), it was more of a precaution than anything good in India itself, people at the time literally also called themselves Latinos, Jews in rising anti semetisim just become regular whites, - but only the braindead Indians thought it was something good in them

Never saw a Latino, white saying that, using someone's life threatening times to score points and somehow use it to think his identity is better or what not

That doesn't represent the overall attitude towards Muslim or pakistanis, nowadays I live in a Republican leaning suburb with heavy white majority but we were allowed to start a small mosque and everyone is very friendly and good to us, respect us, I love the country for it's openess to everyone
But everyone has guns, I do not know what one lone wolf man would do


North dindian or South dindian, make up and add shit on the internet all you want but that won't change your incel reality

That's @cocomo for posting this somewhere - this is the deep reasons behind all Thier frustrations

No one wants to be you cause just ones name being associated with your kind kill off any chances of getting swipped right on dating apps, Scam calls, tech support, unhygienic people

The only place where Indians consider themselves to be good is in India
Indians themselves desperately try to whitewash to not be associated with indianess, like literally just go to your disapora reddit, someone is always crying about it, every single day some inferiority complex ridden Indian diaspora guy opens a thread talking about racism by people, Thier shit genetics and overall vibes of God why I was born an Indian
All the signs of an incel people group

literally the most inferiority complexed people out there, we on the other hand walk around in kameez, make mosques even if we are 15 people - that's what we are, we have pride
A young Pakistani guy, girl would hate for people to give them Indian stereotypes, your own kind sound suicidal over being consider the Indian



I mean that's just what an Uzbek man I knew in the US told me, I don't know Thier country, language, traditions etc to know the reality
Just going of by what I heard from him

Bulleh shah murshid was an Arain(Master Race).