Pakistani Music labelled "Music of India" on Youtube

[Mzizblz]

The language recognition software probably doesn't distinguish between Hindu and Urdu.

How can you even do that? I speak hindi as 2nd language and i cant.

It seems urdu is Hindi with more Foreign words.

 

[jamahir]

Yes, Its cultural appropriation when they use steal sufi qawalis and turn them into crap bollywood songs, the most famous exmaple being dam mast qalander mast mast into tu cheez badi hai mast mast. and more abida parveens Nara E Mastana sufi ghazal stolen by some silly indian girl and turned into what she calls a ‘club banger’. Also when Qawali elements are added into songs, when Qawali is not shared between borders and really developed in Pakistan after the partition, it is a religious and sufi art form.

Its plagerism when they steal music with no cultural meaning. but its still wrong to not give credit to the actual artist. Most bollywood songs nowadays almost always have links to pakistani music,

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In the 'Similar threads' section down this page there is the below thread about Pakistan-ancestry singer Arooj Aftab winning a Grammy award for her song 'Mohobbat'. The song is in the thread so please read and watch :

Pakistani-American Urdu Singer Arooj Aftab Wins Grammy For "Mohabbat"

https://www.southasiainvestor.com/2022/04/pakistani-american-urdu-singer-arooj.html Pakistani-American singer Arooj Aftab's rendition of “Mohabbat” won the prize for Best Global Music Performance at the 2022 Grammys. The Brooklyn based singer won the category ahead of Femi Kuti (“Pà Pá Pà”)...

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I quote a section from the thread :

Arooj sings mostly in Urdu. Her lyrics come from centuries-old poetry. Her music draws from seemingly everywhere. She brings in non-traditional instruments like synthesizer and lever harp to a traditional South Asian poetic form like the ghazal. She's even given her style its own name: neo-Sufi, according to an interview with the PBS. "It's not South Asian classical music with — like fused with jazz. It's like it's living in its own world of, like, a marriage of many roots and heritages. So I was kind of like, I need to, like, name this right now, you know?"

So she as a music artiste doesn't call her music "Pakistani" but South Asian which region has existed much before Pakistan existed. And she calls her music NeoSufi which again you cannot claim as "Pakistani". She is the artiste here and she knows better than some nationalist Pakistanis who want to forcibly misappropriate her pan-South-Asian music, in fact pan-human music, as Pakistani.

 

[Mzizblz]

No. Urdu and Hindi share a common base but Hindi uses Sanskrit-derived words for some things and Urdu uses Farsi/Arabic/Turkish-derived words instead. Neither language is a subset of the other.

How can hindi use Sanskrit derived words when hindi is Sanskrit derived language ?

It anything, urdu is using Foreign words despite being Sanskrit deeived language.

 

[Sayfullah]

99% fault is Pakistanis them self
Our people then self want to pass off as Indians or just south Asians when they get big so they get more customers/views and make more money.
If we didn’t have sellouts we wouldn’t be labelled as Indian
Our rice and salt sold as Indian
Our cuisine called Indian
Our actors called only south Asian
Our music called Indian
Our language called Indian

Heck india isn’t even Indian
India is named after River Indus which is Pakistan

 

[kingQamaR]

Yes the whole Solar System belongs to Pakistan.

Dil Dil Pakistan was a truly a once-in-a-generation song. It is a pop anthem. In a non-scientific 2003 BBC World Service online poll of popular songs, "Dil Dil Pakistan" came third.

To this day the song is still popular, in fact is the first song which children listen and sing. The heart warming lyrics catchy tune, and mesmerizing video everything so perfect. We are not going to have a song like this again.

And your thieving talentless Indians musicians stole our national song ruined it by doing a Indian version was absolute rubbish

 

[jamahir]

Dil Dil Pakistan was a truly a once-in-a-generation song. It is a pop anthem. In a non-scientific 2003 BBC World Service online poll of popular songs, "Dil Dil Pakistan" came third.

To this day the song is still popular, in fact is the first song which children listen and sing. The heart warming lyrics catchy tune, and mesmerizing video everything so perfect. We are not going to have a song like this again.

You think a Communist - me - will be much enthused by a nationalist song, LOL ? You should again read my post# 66 for which you left a ha ha react.

And I am sure there are hundreds of millions of Indian nationalists who champion 'Vande Mataram' with as much enthusiasm as you do with 'Dil dil Pakistan'.

And your thieving talentless Indians musicians stole our national song ruined it by doing a Indian version was absolute rubbish

As if Pakistanis don't listen to Indian songs, which they should because music transcends the artificial national borders. I have watched clips of Pakistan Idol in which many contestants sang Indian songs.

And "talentless Indian musicians" ? Watch this rendition of 'Dil sambhal ja zara' by the charming and talented Mohammed Irfan and the pretty and talented Arunita in the finale of Indian Idol last year :

Here's the charming young contestant Mohammad Faiz singing 'Shayad' marvelously in the currently running singing competition Superstar Singers. A mesmerizing performance for a fantastic song :

And here's he singing 'Khamoshiyaan' in the competition's audition round. This rendition made him the sweet heart of India :

@Sainthood 101 @Naofumi @Goenitz @KedarT @vishwambhar @Indos @Valiant @Great Janjua

 

[Maula Jatt]

It's the Pakistanis themselves who need to be more nationalist and beat down, and abuse people using Indian views to sell their music, or any kinda entertainment - 90% your own fault for not coming down hard

Our house needs to be in order, we need to keep talking about it, shaming if we have to - whatever necessary
its a we problem first and foremost

Dil Dil Pakistan was a truly a once-in-a-generation song. It is a pop anthem. In a non-scientific 2003 BBC World Service online poll of popular songs, "Dil Dil Pakistan" came third.

To this day the song is still popular, in fact is the first song which children listen and sing. The heart warming lyrics catchy tune, and mesmerizing video everything so perfect. We are not going to have a song like this again.

And your thieving talentless Indians musicians stole our national song ruined it by doing a Indian version was absolute rubbish

always brings your emotions out wherever you are

 

[jamahir]

@PDF, please watch the songs in post# 72.

 

[Aijaz Kolachi]

Ah just stop with this BS. Pakistani cuisine is far different than indian cuisine. Balochi cuisine such as sajji, dumpukht and shinwari tikka etc from KPK are to name a few. Biryani is also different in Pakistan from indian perspective.
Pakistani cuisine is meat focused and NOT vegetarian based.
Just look at mcdonalds of both countries to know the difference ( a crude example but would tell you alot of what people in both countries eat).
Nobody wants to be associated with self absorbed indians who are suffering from inferiority complex as evident from youtube comments. Pakistan seems to be living rent free in indians head.

It’s the Pakistan which has an Indian language as national language, it is Pakistan which follows an national culture from Ganga Jamuna tahzeeb at the expense of native culture and language. Inferiority complex is in Pakistanis not in Indians whereas Indians have embraced their separate ethnic identities. While in Pakistan separate historical identities and native language promotion is perceived as an threat to country by the state.

 

[Aijaz Kolachi]

Even if language rec is ok, can Pakistani speak proper Urdu,
Have seen Punjabis/ Pathan speak, Urdu ki taang tod dete hain

There might be few exceptions with good command over language and pronunciation but majority cannot speak urdu properly

Why should they? It’s not their language.

 

[fatman17]

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Sorry for the bad cropping, just pointing this out. And military patriotic music of all things. Many foreigners won't be able to tell this apart. Music of Japan is never labelled music of China. Same things happen with Pakistani restaurants on Google and other search bars. Imagine if Turkish music was labelled as Greek music - Youtube would change it immediately.

What can we do about this? We should at least contact Youtube about this in some form or way. I've sent a few emails.

Let them enjoy

 

[PakistaniFirst]

It’s the Pakistan which has an Indian language as national language, it is Pakistan which follows an national culture from Ganga Jamuna tahzeeb at the expense of native culture and language. Inferiority complex is in Pakistanis not in Indians whereas Indians have embraced their separate ethnic identities. While in Pakistan separate historical identities and native language promotion is perceived as an threat to country by the state.

Since when is Urdu a indian language.
Are all indians as stupid as on this PDF?
India or Hindustan didnot exist before 75 years! It was british raj and before that mughal empire. Now i am in no mood to teach ignorant indian here anything. Learn history and you will see how many cultures infused with local culture in indian subcontinent and gave to new thriving cultures which are totally different from its origins.
Let me do you a favor go to dawn.com and see how indians flood the comment sections. Nobody in Pakistan give a damn about India yet politicians in India use Pakistan name for votes. Wion news, arnab which have hue following in india have been saying that civil war is gonna happen in Pakistan in coming days for LAST DECADE. Go to Aljazeera, TRT,DW, RT and see how indians flood the comment section even tho the news is not related to anything remotely Pakistani or indian.

 

[WotTen]

Even youtube knows tomorrow if not today Chay Series or other indian music companies are gonna copy Pakistani music. So they just labeled it all indian music.

Old threads about Indians copying Pakistani music. The reverse also happens, but much less frequently.

Indians still copying Pakistani songs and selling as their own

Copied version: Original: Worst thing is they don't even give credit, making their own avaam ullu that they have talented composers :P

defence.pk

Copy copy copy!!!

Indian movie industry, Bollywood, is a multi-billion dollar industry. Its the second most successful movie industry after Hollywood. In every Bollywood movie there are songs that actors/actresses lip sing and dance to. Most people dont know that Indian directors/musicians have stolen music from...

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[JX-1]

Many Indians claim that based on shared history but Indians never try to pass them off as Pakistanis. There is a helluva difference between the two

I have never seen a Pakistani pass themselves off as Indian - quite the opposite happens - and if they do, they must come from a bad neighbourhood where they need to hide their race, or they have mental health issues.

 

[JX-1]

How can you even do that? I speak hindi as 2nd language and i cant.

It seems urdu is Hindi with more Foreign words.

Hindi sounds like someone with a mediocre command of the Urdu language speaking, who can't pronounce "Z", and uses a lot of "Indian" sounding words (eg. "Wazir e Azam" to "pradhaan mantri"). Hindi speakers typically use more english loan words than Urdu. Written Hindi may be different as I do not read Hindi much.