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[INDIC]

Yes you are right, upper caste dont care about castes after all. I wonder why they dominate everything in India despite being 10% at best, in fact brahmins are only 4%.

Please provide the proof for every crap you claim.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Here is the two nation theory in action my friends. It has been 66 years since independence and most likely all the older generation died by now. So, people who are left are born here and should be called sindhis whether you like it or not.

Sindhi is ethnic group, you don't suddenly become sindhi by being born in Sindh.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Are you stupid?
I asked you to give some names and you are just oozing sh-it like a madrasah educated brainwashed kid.

What kind of proof you need retarded baniya? Seriously will you deny now that media is dominated by upper caste baniyas? One don't need to be genius to know that, their surnames are enough to find out their caste. RSS mandir education have completly f your mind.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Anyone irrespective of his/her religion loyal to Pak Sarzameen is a Pakistani...

Driving on highways etc.. we come across sign boards reading "One Nation.. One Destination" etc.. yet we have mofos spreading hate and divisions...

There is no doubt tht we have issues... but the question is... do we have the solutions?



Nough of the sensitivity crap... .... what we need to do is seriously reboot and exterminate the uneducated,2 faced (aik eeint wali masids k mullahs) mofos spreading nonsense.. create and focus upon Nationalism... instead of the "ummah" and muslim brotherhood bs... first make ourselves strong before looking at some sh!t happening in the middleast etc..

 

[my2cents]

Sindhi is ethnic group, you don't suddenly become sindhi by being born in Sindh.

So in past 65 years they still remain Sindhi without intermixing with others. Or do you practice caste system and remain with your own ethnicity. Either way your two nation theory does not hold water.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

So in past 65 years they still remain Sindhi without intermixing with others. Or do you practice caste system and remain with your own ethnicity. Either way your two nation theory does not hold water.

You really are retarded as expected. Ethinic group=nationality? lol Do pashtuns living in Karachi suddenly become Sindhis? The discussion is why Indian government dont accept Pakistani hindus, the answer is obvious because they are lower caste mostly dalits who migrated from India before partition. And no they dont speak Sindhi.

 

[Jako]

What kind of proof you need retarded baniya? Seriously will you deny now that media is dominated by upper caste baniyas? One don't need to be genius to know that, their surnames are enough to find out their caste. RSS mandir education have completly f your mind.

Since the last few posts I have been asking you to post some names and what you are doing is blabbering shit. If you know that surnames can identify ones caste it should be easier for you to name them. Now why dont you name, seems like madrasah doesnt teach english comprehension?
When you claim somehing please provide some proofs and what I am asking cannot get more simpler for a proof.
ps Dont blowup yourself in a public place.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

For group of people who move from one region to another it takes centuries and many generations of integration, mixing, language etc to change ethinicity. In Pakistan you will find exemples of this between Sindhi-Balochis and Punjabi-Pathans.

 

[Devil Soul]

Diwali: Peshawar revels in the ‘festival of lights’

Hindus from across Peshawar have congregated at temples to make their offerings. PHOTO: MUHAMMAD IQBAL/EXPRESS

PESHAWAR:
Hindus in Peshawar celebrated Diwali on Tuesday at the historical Balmiki temple situated in Kali Bari where a number of Hindu families reside.

Diwali is a five-day cultural and spiritual festival celebrated all over the world. It is also known as the ‘festival of lights’.

“Diwali is mainly held to honour the return of Lord Ram to the Kingdom of Ayodhya after 14 years of exile, but has several other deep meanings,” said Ram Lal, an elder.

Hindus, Sikhs and Jains celebrate the festival with equal fervour, he shared. Homes are decorated with lights, there are fireworks, and diyas are lit to signify the triumph of good over evil, explained Ram Lal.

After the first two days of celebrations at home, grand arrangements were made at temples, bringing together many Hindu families.

Balmiki temple celebrated with fireworks and special prayers, while at Goraknath and Gor Gathri temples the celebrations will be held after Muharram.

“We also tell children about the importance of the day to create awareness among them,” said Ram Lal.

Under pressure

Temples in the city sported colourful lights, inviting droves of women and girls brightly bedecked in new clothes to visit throughout the day. Diwali is one of the few occasions when Hindus in Peshawar observe with aplomb, however, not without safety concerns.

After the brazen attack on All Saints Church in September, Hindus remain fearful of a similar hit on their places of worship.

“We fear we can be targeted just like the Christians were targeted during Sunday Mass,” said All Pakistan Hindu Rights Movement Chairman and community elder Haroon Sarbdiyal. “Though, on this special day we offer prayers for peace and prosperity in the country.”

The city administration had already taken several security steps for their protection, added Sarbdiyal.

Celebrations have been in full swing at the Kali Bari Temple for the past several days and people are pouring in from different parts of the city in spite of a sense of fear.

“On this auspicious occasion, we prayed for the happiness of our people and for peace to return to this area which has been affected by war for so many years now,” said Amrusha, who was visiting the temple with her children.

The city remains on high alert because of Muharram and the killing of Taliban leader, Hakimullah Mehsud.

Published in The Express Tribune, November 6th,2013.

 

[Spring Onion]

Need for proof: Without Hindu marriage law, women struggle for rights

KARACHI:
The need for a Hindu marriage law is felt the most when young women, such as Meena Janti Lal, are abused and kicked out from their homes by their husbands, ending up with no official documents of their marriages or an option to seek legal dissolution.
“For three months after the wedding, my husband kept me locked up in a room and would hit me often,” said the eight-month-old pregnant woman, as she covers bulging belly with her dupatta. “Now he claims that I am not his wife and he will marry again. What shall I do?”

With tears in her eyes and a worried face, Meena sits at the office of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) where her parents brought her to lodge a complaint against her husband. Meena is one of the thousand of Hindu women, especially among the poor class, whose marriages have not been registered, and they have no right to go for divorce. The Hindu marriage law has been drafted by experts but has yet to be introduced in the Sindh Assembly by lawmakers.
She is unfortunately not the first of such cases to knock the human rights commission’s door. A representative of the HRCP said that they receive such cases at least twice a month where women complain of their husbands mistreating them. “In the lower caste, women are commonly abused and left behind by their husbands. They also do not grant them any maintenance rights. Human rights organisations in the community are weak and they do not check the status of such women or work to help them.”
Meena’s father, a worker at the Burns Hospital, said that his 22-year-old daughter was sexually abused by a neighbour, Akash, who lives in her sister’s neighbourhood in Gizri. This later led to her marriage with Akash, last August, in order to save the family’s pride. “The wedding took place in a small temple with few people but there were neither any signatures taken nor any documents produced,” he said.

The Express Tribune tried contacting Meena’s husband but he refused to talk and kept hanging up. Meanwhile, the police have taken an interest in the case. SHO Ghazala of the Women Police Station in South zone has called both the families to settle the matter.
According to lawyer Rochi Ram, Hindu women are also deprived of their right to seek divorce, maintenance money, as well as, inheritance rights apart from the right to register their marriages.
Hindu parliamentarian Mukesh Kumar Chawla claimed that a committee of lawyers and experts is finalising a draft of the bill and it would be presented within a month in the Sindh Assembly. He said the bill will include clauses for divorce, right to maintenance and other issues faced by Hindu women.
Lawyer Ram, who had taken part in drafting the bill, insisted that they have already prepared the bill and it is the parliamentarians who are delaying its placement before the assembly. Ram also blamed the Sindh government for their apathetic attitude. “The parliamentarians are all about talking and are indifferent towards crucial issues,” he said.
Larkana fares better
The situation in the rural areas is much better than urban centres, pointed out Kalpana Devi who heads the Hindu Panchayat in Larkana. After every wedding that takes place in the district, they issue marriage certificates that are acceptable in court, she said. If women are mistreated, the elders of the community sit together and work to solve the matter. “For us, the main issue lies when someone wants to move abroad and there is lack of documents to certify the marriage,” she admitted.
Published in The Express Tribune, November 8th,2013.

 

[Contrarian]

Pak Hindu migrants withdraw 'NOTA' decision

JODHPUR: Pakistani Hindu migrants settled in Rajasthan have withdrawn their decision to opt only for 'none of the above' (NOTA) button during December 1 assembly elections. The decision was taken after both BJP and Congress incorporated their issues in their respective manifestos.

"As an ultimatum to the political parties for constantly overlooking our issues, we had decided not to choose any party in the state election and press the NOTA button on December 1. But now both the parties have given us importance and have vowed to resolve our issues in their manifestos. Hence, we have now decided to vote", said Hindu Singh Sodha, president of the Seemant Lok Sangthan, an organisation working for the welfare of the Hindu migrants from Pakistan.

Sodha said all migrants would be allowed to cast their votes on their own free will. "They may cast their vote to any party of their choice. There is no referendum from the organisation to these people to favour of any party or candidate," he said.

There are about 1.25 lakh Pakistani Hindus who have acquired Indian citizenship and living in Rajasthan. Their numbers have the power to influence the results on seats across the state, including Barmer, Chohtan and Shive in Barmer district; Kolayat and Khajuwala in Biakner district, Soorsagar in Jodhpur district and some areas in Jaisalmer district. On these seven seats, they have a population concentration ranging from 8000 to 25000.

Of these seven seats, Chohtan has the largest concentration of Pak Hindus with 25,000 voters. Keeping this in equation in mind, BJP has repeated a Pak Hindu candidate Tarunrai Kaga from this constituency. He had lost to Padmaram Meghwal of Congress in last elections.

Besides these areas, they are also present in Jalore, Pali, Sriganganagar and Hanumangarh districts but not in a significantly large number.

These migrants have been struggling hard to get their issues of rehabilitation and citizenship resolved since long but they had been faced with consistent negligence. "This is for the first time that the political parties have incorporated our issues in their poll manifestos and have expressed a seriousness to our problems and issues," said Prem Chand, a volunteer of the organization.

During the 2008 assembly elections, both the then national president of BJP Nitin Gadkari and then state president Vasundhara Raje respectively had visited their settlement in Jodhpur and the party had tried to recognize their problems and issues. Gadkari and two BJP legislators had announced a monetary help of Rs 35 lakh for them. "But the money never reached us," Prem Chand said.

The migrants also regularly met Ashok Gehlot, who assured them to address their problems by providing them boarding and lodging. But that too was temporary in nature. Gehlot had also visited them and distributed blankets.

Pak Hindu migrants withdraw 'NOTA' decision - The Times of India

Since the topic is about Pakistani Hindus in India, it makes no sense to put it in the Pakistani Hindus thread.

 

[Contrarian]

Thank you Pakistan for all the love that you show to Hindus in Pakistan. How many times and how flatteringly you refer to them in your school books. How much you teach your children respect for others.

Such love that they have had to migrate in such massive numbers from their own land.

 

[Nassr]

Thank you Pakistan for all the love that you show to Hindus in Pakistan. How many times and how flatteringly you refer to them in your school books. How much you teach your children respect for others.

Such love that they have had to migrate in such massive numbers from their own land.

What about many times more number of persecuted Sikhs who had to leave India and were forced to seek other nationalities. What about those Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists and other Indian minorities who are persecuted day in and day out, by majority Indian Hindus and Indian security forces. Why is it that India has the highest number of armed secessionist groups anywhere in the world, 140 in number, who are fighting for secession from India.

Have you ever looked over your shoulder and glanced at your own dirty backyard. Please do it before you hurl sarcastic remarks at others.

 

[Soumitra]

What about many times more number of persecuted Sikhs who had to leave India and were forced to seek other nationalities. What about those Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists and other Indian minorities who are persecuted day in and day out, by majority Indian Hindus and Indian security forces. Why is it that India has the highest number of armed secessionist groups anywhere in the world, 140 in number, who are fighting for secession from India.

Have you ever looked over your shoulder and glanced at your own dirty backyard. Please do it before you hurl sarcastic remarks at others.

Ya Sikhs, Minorities and Dalits are discriminated - that is why our PM is Sikh, the PM candidate of the main opposition party is a Dalit, the best loved President is a Muslim- Who incidently became a President when India was governed by "Hindu Nationalist" party, The chief of Intelligence Bureau is Syed Asif Ibrabhim a Muslim, The Chief of Army Staff is a Sikh

Regarding Khalistanis they were being supported by ISI and when the govt. forces - Led by another sikh K.P.S Gill crushed them they had to flee.

Regarding those so called 140 seperatist groups 100-150 people picking up the gun and hiding in jungles does not constitute a seperatist movement

 

[Nassr]

Ya Sikhs, Minorities and Dalits are discriminated - that is why our PM is Sikh, the PM candidate of the main opposition party is a Dalit, the best loved President is a Muslim- Who incidently became a President when India was governed by "Hindu Nationalist" party, The chief of Intelligence Bureau is Syed Asif Ibrabhim a Muslim, The Chief of Army Staff is a Sikh

Regarding Khalistanis they were being supported by ISI and when the govt. forces - Led by another sikh K.P.S Gill crushed them they had to flee.

Regarding those so called 140 seperatist groups 100-150 people picking up the gun and hiding in jungles does not constitute a seperatist movement

That is the biggest farce that you people continue to play around and then go on persecuting and killing the minorities at will. And I have not even mentioned the Naxals at all.

By calling the Untouchables, Dalits does not reduce the scourge of being a Dalit or Untouchable in Indian societal makeup who incidentally are the largest Hindu community in India. A few Dalits coming out of the horror of being a Dalit or Untouchable does not obviate the suffering of other teeming millions.

Secondly, your PM is not a Sikh. He is a Hindu. According to your constitution and decrees of your Supreme Court, Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists amongst many other minorities constitute a sect of Hinduism. Therefore, before you people go around telling the world how humane you are, please treat minority Indians as humans instead of hiding behind such farce that our PM is a so-called Sikh, our President was a much loved Muslim, our Air Chief was a Christian and KPS Gill is known as the Butcher of Punjab etc etc.

If they were only 100-150 as you people are made to believe, none would have remained - yet they still fight for secession from India and continue doing so.