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SLAMABAD: Foreign Office Spokesperson Tasnim Aslam on Monday warned for ‘crushing reply’ if Pakistan was attacked from any side of the border.

'Everyone should know that we have the capability and determination to deal with such threats and defend our borders,' Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam told journalists in the capital.

Meanwhile, the spokeswoman also contested Indian Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee's recent statement in parliament that Indian prisoners suffered 'inhuman treatment' during their detention in Pakistan.

Pakistan paid great attention to the condition of detainees, she said, adding that India did not cooperate in the matter to the required extent.

Aslam also claimed that many Pakistanis released last year as part of a prisoner exchange with New Delhi 'had lost their mental balance because of the torture in Indian jails.'

Prisoner exchanges are part of a range of confidence-building measures between the nuclear-armed sides as they currently seek ways to resolve core disputes such as the status of Kashmir.

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http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp#18866
 
Very nice! This would tame all bastards!:flag: :flag:
 
Janbaz,
This plain rehotric with no base, The United States of America is already in Pakistan. Where is the crushing reply?
 
That statement is meant for the local audience.
 
Janbaz,
This plain rehotric with no base, The United States of America is already in Pakistan. Where is the crushing reply?

No they are not inside pakistan. There are only a small number of speacial forces inside the country. Any large number of troops will never be allowed in the country. The people of pakistan will not stand for it. If this happens this surely spell the END for MR Musharraf :wall: :wall:
 
No they are not inside pakistan. There are only a small number of speacial forces inside the country. Any large number of troops will never be allowed in the country. The people of pakistan will not stand for it. If this happens this surely spell the END for MR Musharraf :wall: :wall:

Yes, or there will be new Bin Laden's born as there were in 1990 Gulf War. Adux brother might have meant emotionally or as they dominate Mr. Musharraf's thinking and our foriegn policy.
 
Janbaz,
This plain rehotric with no base, The United States of America is already in Pakistan. Where is the crushing reply?

They were invited to make joint operations against the militants.
 
They were invited to make joint operations against the militants.

Webby,

Hot Pursuit is not Joint Military Operations, They were already inside Pakistan yesterday

Kidwaibhai,
The news is already posted by me in this sub-fora from msn, where the US confirms the action. Small number of soldiers or even a division, it doesnt matter; if you have foriegn national force capable of excersing force, It is a loss of your sovernity and your incapacity to protect your citizen. Pakistan and India attained Independence the hard way from the white man; It is not for this forfathers that our sacrificed their lives.

Adu
 
Hot Pursuit is not Joint Military Operations, They were already inside Pakistan yesterday

lol give me a link.
 
US forces enter Pak, envoy called for talks

Monday, March 05, 2007

Blog this story

http://content.msn.co.in/News/Intern...7_1250.htm#top

Washington/Islamabad: Pakistan has reported more 'violations' by Afghan and US-led forces on its border with Afghanistan, and has summoned its envoy in Washington home for 'consultations.’

Violations by US-led coalition and Afghan forces continued for the third day Sunday in the Lwara Mandi area of North Waziristan, the ‘Daily Times’ reported from Miranshah, the main town of the region, quoting witnesses.

Remarks by Pakistani Ambassador Lt. Gen. (retd) Mahmud Durrani that US actions could bring down President Musharraf, and that they could destabilise Pakistan have not gone well in Islamabad, the newspaper said.

Witnesses in Northern Waziristan, a tribal no-man's land over which Islamabad has no control, said coalition forces seized a shepherd in the Data Khel area of Lwara Mandi.

They said a resident of Shashly village on the Pakistan-Afghan border in North Waziristan - identified as Sher Ali, the son of Gul Khan - had been detained on the other side of the border.

In another incident, witnesses said coalition forces bombed a Pakistani border area. They said that two gunship helicopters flew several kilometres into Pakistani territory, NNI news agency reported.

Gen. Durrani's summons to Islamabad for consultations was "another indication of rising tensions between Pakistan and the US" on the issue of cross-border pursuits into Afghanistan, media reports said.

What Pakistan terms 'violations' and an encroachment on its sovereignty are part of the campaign to bomb fleeing Taliban and Al Qaeda operatives, who use Pakistani territory as a safe haven.

US-led forces have also engaged in 'hot pursuit' of these elements in preparation of its Spring Offensive against the fugitives, who were ousted from power in Kabul in 2001, but have registered a remarkable resurgence last year.

Some of the bombs have landed on Pakistani territory. There has been more than one incident of exchange of fire - in one a Pakistani soldier was killed and two injured.

The Bush administration's defence officials last week clearly informed the US Congress that fleeing Taliban were being pursued into Pakistani territory.

In an interview to an international wire service last week, Durrani had expressed concerns that cooperation among the US, Afghanistan and Pakistan was eroding.

Asked if tampering with US aid levels might trigger Musharraf's ouster, he said, "Possibly it could bring him down. It could destabilise the whole country."

Islamabad was not too pleased with this particular articulation, and directed the Pakistani embassy to issue a clarification.

The "clarification" by the embassy said, "A spokesman for the embassy in Washington said Durrani made a point in the interview that any conditions attached to US assistance would send a wrong signal to Pakistanis, and hence would be counter-productive.

The incident has had its political fallout at home. Pakistani lawmakers have been angry with Musharraf government's "failure to protect sovereignty" and have demanded a special session of parliament to discuss the issue.
 
I didn't know about this incident. Well, i am pretty sure that both countrys officials will solve the problems without any problems.

As far as the violation that has occured. I dont see it as a big deal. If Pakistan was in Americans position, it would have done the samething.
 
I didn't know about this incident. Well, i am pretty sure that both countrys officials will solve the problems without any problems.

As far as the violation that has occured. I dont see it as a big deal. If Pakistan was in Americans position, it would have done the samething.

Webby,

I am sure you dont mean it, Americans in Pakistan, killing Pakistan Pashtun citizen, I agree these very people are dangerous to your country as well, but letting anyother country interfere inside your territory; I am sorry its the lack of control and capacity to protect sovenerity, As much as I admire what Mushraff has done for Pakistan, this his compermise to stay in powrer
 
Hi,

There is no easy way out for pakistan today. Whatever is happening today is of pakistan's and pakistanis own doing. The pakistani public have been their own worst enemies. Trying to fight other nations wars and forgetting that the fire will ultimately reach the home front. Most of my pakistani brethrens are just full of talk and that is all. They have no clue what war is and what will happen when it reaches the heartland. They think that they will die a glorious death and come out smelling like roses on the other side. What about the nation, the welfare of its people, its sovereignty, some strategy and game plan----?

I don't know who is responsible for making the arrests of taliban / al qaeda heirarchy just before the arrival of american dignitory. But I just want to know if their is any limit to that person's stupidity. It looks so fake but the idiot keeps on going at it.
 
Janbaz,
This plain rehotric with no base, The United States of America is already in Pakistan. Where is the crushing reply?

first USA is not in FATA areas without our permission.As i have said it before its captains mess let captain clean it up.why should we put up our military personals at risk.second pathans that are harboring these foreign elements cannot cry any more that Pakistanis are killing Pakistanis.this is perfect Americans cant complain we are not doing much.I don't see any thing wrong with that.
off course you wanna use this to inflame things.This is called killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

second that statement janbaz posted have absolutly nothing to do with America.

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Monday warned of a “befitting response” to any plans by New Delhi to pursue militants across the Line of Control (LoC).

“There should be no doubt in one’s mind that any attempt to indulge in hot pursuit would receive a befitting response. Any aggression across our borders or the LoC would be effectively countered. Everyone should know that we have the capability and determination to effectively deal with such threats and defend our borders,” said Foreign Office spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam during a weekly media briefing at the Foreign Office.

However, alleged remarks by the Indian Defence Minister AK Antony were not easy to trace in Monday’s media in which he threatened pursuing militants across the LoC into Pakistan. The spokeswoman observed that if indeed the remarks had been made, these were highly irresponsible. “We have to check the veracity of the statement. I am not sure whether the statement was made. If indeed the statement is correct, we would be surprised that a statement of this nature, which can only be described as irresponsible, was made. Such statements militate efforts made by the two governments to improve the environment,” she added.

Meanwhile, there is good news for the countless number of prisoners in jails across Pakistan and India, which the bureaucracy of the two states had virtually forgotten. The spokeswoman announced that both the countries had finalised the names for a committee on prisoners, comprising retired judges, and hoped its meeting would take place soon to look into the plight of these prisoners.

She disagreed with a statement by Indian External Minister Pranab Mukherjee about the conditions that the Indian prisoners were kept in Pakistan. “This is a humanitarian issue and Pakistan has always favoured greater attention to their plight but unfortunately, it has not received the kind of cooperation it had hoped for,” she added.

The newly-formed committee would also suggest procedures to both the governments about the humane treatment and their expeditious release. The spokeswoman said currently there are 513 Pakistani prisoners in Indian jails including 50 fishermen and 463 civilians.

In the last four years, Pakistan had released 2,637 Indian prisoners, while India freed only 713 Pakistani prisoners. It has also been noted that a large number of prisoners released by India have lost their mental abilities and were tortured in Indian jails.

She said there were many Pakistani prisoners, who continue to remain in prison even after completing their term. The ruling of the High Court of Indian Punjab to grant compensation to such prisoners is a testimony to this fact.

The spokeswoman said Pakistani authorities provided consular access to 44 Indian prisoners in Kot Lakhpat jail, Lahore, on the 15th of last month, but the Indians have provided access to only five prisoners against the 160 sought by Pakistan.

Answering a question on Pakistan’s expectations of the anti-terror mechanism, she said: “This is a mechanism, which has been established to help the two countries to prevent terrorist acts on either soil. It is a two-way mechanism. This can be used to share information to cooperate by mutual agreement. We are approaching it with a positive mindset and see where it goes. I won’t get into specifics. It is not appropriate for me.”

Asked whether the investigations into the Samjhota Express bomb blasts would figure in the talks, she said: “It would be discussed. The Indian leadership has assured us that whatever information they have they would share with us.”

On the information provided by India to back its allegations about the involvement of Pakistanis in acts of terrorism in India, she said: “Some information was given. There could be subsequent discussions. It would not be appropriate to go into the specifics of what would be discussed and what would be our response and what we expect their response (to be),” she said.

On the remarks by External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee about the ruling out of Joint Management, one of the proposals mooted by President Gen Pervez Musharraf to resolve the Kashmir issue, the spokeswoman said demilitarisation and other ideas were being discussed. “These ideas have generated resonance among the Kashmiris,” she said, adding the Kashmiris were interested in the proposals and discussing them. “I would not get into specifics,” she said.

About India building an airbase in Tajikistan, she said: “I do not have any information that India has established an airbase. We understand that India may be helping them to build some facilities, and we do not have this information,” she said.

About the ‘hot pursuit’ into Pakistan’s northern territory by US forces, the spokeswoman replied that in reality this was not the policy of the US government. She pointed out that some local commanders or generals might have said something of the sort but the US Secretary of State has firmly stated that there was no plan of this nature as it would not serve any purpose. “Our fight against terrorism is a common cause and we have a partnership with the United States and not an adversarial relationship,” she added.

Reacting to a statement made by the Afghan foreign minister, she said Pakistan is a victim of terrorism, which sprouted in Afghanistan and had disturbed the Pakistani society, particularly the people of tribal areas. She said the international community is deeply worried about the situation and Pakistan is part of the global efforts in the fight against terrorism. Pakistan is being provided some assistance for a common cause.

The spokeswoman told a questioner that the second round of Pakistan-US strategic dialogue is likely to take place this month. She said there is a desire on both side to make their relationship broad-based, durable and a number of initiatives have been taken for the purpose.

There is also realisation that whenever our relationship was less cooperative then both sides paid a price for that and therefore are determined to make the relationship long term.

She said that there would be no military action against Iran as it would have disastrous consequences economically and politically for the region and also for Pakistan. Pakistan is against the use of force or threat of the use of force against Iran and wants resolution of the issue through negotiations.

About the meeting of seven Islamic countries in Islamabad, she said both the president and the foreign minister consulted the Iranian and Palestine leadership before the conference. She pointed out that the presence of the OIC Secretary-General in the meeting clearly showed that the approach of the group was consistent with the OIC’s position on the issues discussed.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=6321
 
Cheetah,

No need to Bring in India, we pass on the rehotric of crushing replies to each other on a yearly basis atleast 20 times. So that doesnt hold water and you are derailing the topic; Guns have been silent in the LOC for quite a while,"Crushing reply to any aggression" it means from any side of the border, A foriegn army in your land, killing your own people. Now how are you planning to give the befitting reply to the US, they definitly took your sovernity for granted, Maybe Pashtuns are killing fellow Pakistani's; Does that mean your government give the authourity to someother country to kill them. I dont think so? If they had permission why was the envoy called. Remember I supported when Pakistan attacked the Madrassa killing 80, It was Pakistan's internal matter, but now if US did that in Pakistan, All I have to say what sorry state of affairs you are in?
 
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