Pakistan wants strategic, broad ties, US legislators told

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Pakistan wants strategic, broad ties, US legislators told
Anwar IqbalPublished May 23, 2021 - Updated about 5 hours ago
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In this file photo, Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi addresses an audience at the US Institute of Peace in Washington. — APP
WASHINGTON: Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi told US lawmakers on Saturday that Pakistan was seeking a broad-based, strategic partnership with America, which would also cover Afghanistan.
In virtual meetings with members of the House of Representatives and the Senate, the foreign minister invited a group of 15 US lawmakers to visit Pakistan in June for consultations with their Pakistani counterparts and officials on how to improve bilateral relations.
During his meeting with the members of the House Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific, Mr Qureshi stressed the need for “a broad-based strategic partnership” that looks after the interests of both countries, said a statement issued after the meeting.
“Such a partnership will improve bilateral ties and will also help protect mutual interests within the South Asian region,” he said.

Encouraging regional trade and development would also be good for US-Pakistan ties, he added.
The foreign minister highlighted Pakistan’s efforts for promoting “a peaceful political settlement” in Afghanistan. “Peace in Afghanistan is a collective responsibility of all Afghan groups and of key external stakeholders” he said.
Members of the House Subcommittee appreciated Pakistan’s efforts for peace in Afghanistan and praised the role of the Pakistani-American community in promoting US-Pakistan relations, said another statement issued after the meeting.
In a separate meeting with another group of lawmakers, the foreign minister discussed the importance of regional peace and security in South Asia and suggested strengthening people-to-people ties with the United States.
Later, the foreign minister told journalists that he also discussed the Covid-19 situation with American lawmakers, informing them that the country had enough vaccines for now but may needed more to fight back the pandemic.
Mr Qureshi suggested maintaining regular virtual contact with American lawmakers to keep them informed of the regional situation, particularly of the developments in Afghanistan.
The foreign minister’s meeting with the lawmakers followed a congressional hearing on Afghanistan in Washington last week.
During the hearing, several US lawmakers and America’s chief negotiator for Afghanistan, Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, discussed Pakistan’s role in the Afghan peace process.
Read: Pakistan's key role in Afghanistan echoes in US Congress
They also discussed a recent claim by Afghan President Ashraf Ghani that bringing peace to Afghanistan now was “first and foremost a matter of getting Pakistan on board” as the withdrawal of US troops would greatly reduce America’s influence in the country. “The US now plays only a minor role. The question of peace or hostility is now in Pakistani hands,” Mr Ghani said.
Congresswoman Sara Jacobs, a California Democrat, read Mr Ghani’s quote during the hearing and asked Ambassador Khalilzad “what specifically are you doing to ensure” that Pakistan continued supporting the US peace plan?
“I know there are challenges inside Pakistan, but I believe that Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa’s last visit to Kabul was positive. They have discussed some steps that the two sides will take … to improve bilateral relations…,” he said.
Congressman Ted Lieu, another California Democrat and a former US Air Force colonel, asked if Pakistan was so important for the success of the Afghan peace process, why was it not being treated accordingly.
“It seems to be disrespectful to not have invited the Pakistani leader to a climate summit (in Washington earlier this year) when the leaders of India and Bangladesh were invited,” he said.
“Of course, you are right. Pakistan is an important country. We have had periods of great cooperation with Pakistan. And Pakistan has a critical role to play in Afghanistan going forward and in a number of other issues,” Ambassador Khalilzad replied.
Responding to a question about this congressional hearing, Mr Qureshi said Pakistan plans to maintain regular contact with US lawmakers.
If the UN General Assembly held a physical meeting this year, Pakistan would invite some lawmakers to New York for a meeting with Prime Minister Imran Khan, he said, and another group would be invited to visit Pakistan in October.
Published in Dawn, May 23rd, 2021

 

[Ali_Baba]

got to give you guys,10 out 10 for trying to keep usa even remotely interested in pakistan....

lots if chest beating over China but you guys know the real big daddy is usa

The Americans want things from Pakistan, it is only fair that Pakistan wants things from the Americans.

This time around it seems that Pakistan knows its true value and what it wants, and that is more than the transactional relationship of the past. Pakistan wants a grown up relationship with the Americans. The Americans dont want to pay the going rate, but is hoping the previous pattern of talking down Pakistan, sanctions(FATF etc) and pennies will get them what they want, which is how things used to work before.

It is upto the Americans to realise that the previous approch of dealing with Pakistan does not work anymore and if it wants to be engaged with Pakistan, it has to sit down and talk.

 

[IceCold]

real big daddy is usa

That part is reserved for mighty India.

 

[batmannow]

Pakistan wants strategic, broad ties, US legislators told
Anwar IqbalPublished May 23, 2021 - Updated about 5 hours ago
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In this file photo, Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi addresses an audience at the US Institute of Peace in Washington. — APP
WASHINGTON: Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi told US lawmakers on Saturday that Pakistan was seeking a broad-based, strategic partnership with America, which would also cover Afghanistan.
In virtual meetings with members of the House of Representatives and the Senate, the foreign minister invited a group of 15 US lawmakers to visit Pakistan in June for consultations with their Pakistani counterparts and officials on how to improve bilateral relations.
During his meeting with the members of the House Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific, Mr Qureshi stressed the need for “a broad-based strategic partnership” that looks after the interests of both countries, said a statement issued after the meeting.
“Such a partnership will improve bilateral ties and will also help protect mutual interests within the South Asian region,” he said.

Encouraging regional trade and development would also be good for US-Pakistan ties, he added.
The foreign minister highlighted Pakistan’s efforts for promoting “a peaceful political settlement” in Afghanistan. “Peace in Afghanistan is a collective responsibility of all Afghan groups and of key external stakeholders” he said.
Members of the House Subcommittee appreciated Pakistan’s efforts for peace in Afghanistan and praised the role of the Pakistani-American community in promoting US-Pakistan relations, said another statement issued after the meeting.
In a separate meeting with another group of lawmakers, the foreign minister discussed the importance of regional peace and security in South Asia and suggested strengthening people-to-people ties with the United States.
Later, the foreign minister told journalists that he also discussed the Covid-19 situation with American lawmakers, informing them that the country had enough vaccines for now but may needed more to fight back the pandemic.
Mr Qureshi suggested maintaining regular virtual contact with American lawmakers to keep them informed of the regional situation, particularly of the developments in Afghanistan.
The foreign minister’s meeting with the lawmakers followed a congressional hearing on Afghanistan in Washington last week.
During the hearing, several US lawmakers and America’s chief negotiator for Afghanistan, Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, discussed Pakistan’s role in the Afghan peace process.
Read: Pakistan's key role in Afghanistan echoes in US Congress
They also discussed a recent claim by Afghan President Ashraf Ghani that bringing peace to Afghanistan now was “first and foremost a matter of getting Pakistan on board” as the withdrawal of US troops would greatly reduce America’s influence in the country. “The US now plays only a minor role. The question of peace or hostility is now in Pakistani hands,” Mr Ghani said.
Congresswoman Sara Jacobs, a California Democrat, read Mr Ghani’s quote during the hearing and asked Ambassador Khalilzad “what specifically are you doing to ensure” that Pakistan continued supporting the US peace plan?
“I know there are challenges inside Pakistan, but I believe that Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa’s last visit to Kabul was positive. They have discussed some steps that the two sides will take … to improve bilateral relations…,” he said.
Congressman Ted Lieu, another California Democrat and a former US Air Force colonel, asked if Pakistan was so important for the success of the Afghan peace process, why was it not being treated accordingly.
“It seems to be disrespectful to not have invited the Pakistani leader to a climate summit (in Washington earlier this year) when the leaders of India and Bangladesh were invited,” he said.
“Of course, you are right. Pakistan is an important country. We have had periods of great cooperation with Pakistan. And Pakistan has a critical role to play in Afghanistan going forward and in a number of other issues,” Ambassador Khalilzad replied.
Responding to a question about this congressional hearing, Mr Qureshi said Pakistan plans to maintain regular contact with US lawmakers.
If the UN General Assembly held a physical meeting this year, Pakistan would invite some lawmakers to New York for a meeting with Prime Minister Imran Khan, he said, and another group would be invited to visit Pakistan in October.
Published in Dawn, May 23rd, 2021

All he meant is to get a deal like South Korea got after giving up it's nucks!
So the cat is comming out of the bag!

 

[Kingslayerr]

got to give you guys,10 out 10 for trying to keep usa even remotely interested in pakistan....

lots if chest beating over China but you guys know the real big daddy is usa

What pak wants is a balance between the two. Both should get routes for investment, trade, economic corporation etc. In the end its good for pak. We dont want USA to start fucking with CPEC.

 

[The Maverick]

The Americans want things from Pakistan, it is only fair that Pakistan wants things from the Americans.

This time around it seems that Pakistan knows its true value and what it wants, and that is more than the transactional relationship of the past. Pakistan wants a grown up relationship with the Americans. The Americans dont want to pay the going rate, but is hoping the previous pattern of talking down Pakistan, sanctions(FATF etc) and pennies will get them what they want, which is how things used to work before.

It is upto the Americans to realise that the previous approch of dealing with Pakistan does not work anymore and if it wants to be engaged with Pakistan, it has to sit down and talk.

they want and need nothing from.pakistan..
what possibly can you give them.
they have the largest and most influential power in South Asia in quad.
which part of every usa president flys over pakistan straight to new,Delhi do you find difficult to understand.
they are not remotely interested be it Trump Clinton bush Obama they all paid state visits,to India .why
it was China or usa,. they ditched,you ..
you went running to China
you can't have both

 

[Areesh]

got to give you guys,10 out 10 for trying to keep usa even remotely interested in pakistan....

lots if chest beating over China but you guys know the real big daddy is usa

And got to give it to you pajeets

After simping for Israel for days back to simping for daddy Amreeka??

Sucking one white balls after another with no break???

 

[khanmubashir]

got to give you guys,10 out 10 for trying to keep usa even remotely interested in pakistan....

lots if chest beating over China but you guys know the real big daddy is usa

Sanghis and there daddy mentality
It's you chutyabhkt that look for daddy to deal with five times smaller Pakistan from soviets to USA even tiny Israel
For us its quid pro quo you want something this is what we can give and this is what we want inreturn
And if we ain't happy you wouldn't be ie as USA found out when our concerns in Afghanistan were dismissed

 

[waz]

they want and need nothing from.pakistan..
what possibly can you give them.
they have the largest and most influential power in South Asia in quad.
which part of every usa president flys over pakistan straight to new,Delhi do you find difficult to understand.
they are not remotely interested be it Trump Clinton bush Obama they all paid state visits,to India .why
it was China or usa,. they ditched,you ..
you went running to China
you can't have both

There’s been others who bellowed on about this wonderful partnership they had with the US, they to like you thought the world of it. Then the logical happened, once the US goal was reached they were forgotten about, or in most cases when they deemed the work to achievement too low they gave up. You can look at case file South Vietnam, South American states, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the Kurds etc.
Your fate will be no different, in actual fact far worse. As you rely on a country thousands of miles away which has zero synergy with you, to shore up your weak posture against a combined threats in the region.
Deny all you want, deep down most of your people know that.

 

[batmannow]

What pak wants is a balance between the two. Both should get routes for investment, trade, economic corporation etc. In the end its good for pak. We dont want USA to start fucking with CPEC.

Have Pakistan done that in past? All it got was some genrals illegal long rule ?
all national intersts been given up? That's what history tells us?
Imran must stand up. Against this illegal secret rule which is dragging him to become anothet BHUTTO?
accept all the blames and lately made shaheed by white elephants servants?

There’s been others who bellowed on about this wonderful partnership they had with the US, they to like you thought the world of it. Then the logical happened, once the US goal was reached they were forgotten about, or in most cases when they deemed the work to achievement too low they gave up. You can look at case file South Vietnam, South American states, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the Kurds etc.
Your fate will be no different, in actual fact far worse. As you rely on a country thousands of miles away which has zero synergy with you, to shore up your weak posture against a combined threats in the region.
Deny all you want, deep down most of your people know that.

Deep down it's not about a few so called fooled patriots who thinks polishing someone's boots is called patriotism?
Deep down some one sold their souls to the devil, by making 100s of companies in usa?
deep down these slaves have only Thier own personal intersts in their minds. Who cares 2.3b poor PAKISTANIs but lemme tell u frist time in the history real independence of Pakistan has begun! Silently it's making many people's standing up against this GREAT GAME!

 

[Taimoor Khan]

got to give you guys,10 out 10 for trying to keep usa even remotely interested in pakistan....

lots if chest beating over China but you guys know the real big daddy is usa

This is the same guy was labelled anti semitic few days ago on one of biggest American news channel, yet here he is lecturing the American congressmen on where Pakistan US relations should head to.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

But US does not need Pakistan. As far as the US is concerned, Indian market is much more lucrative than Pakistani market.

 

[mudas777]

We don't need to create unnecessary enmities with any one as we have to live on the same planet. Trade, investment, science, technology and educational cooperation with any country is welcome but beyond that Pakistan interests comes first and foremost. If US for their vindictive agenda wants to contain China, so still they can roost the world wants to use India they are most welcome we will follow our own interests no more wars for Uncle Sam.

 

[waz]

thankfully India is far more robust and experienced diplomatically than the nations you mentioned above .
1. India is tens larger be it economy or geography or potential market trade.
2 India has diverse strategic interests,with Europeans Japan Arab states,even Russia so no over reliance on usa
3 usa is keen for India to be part of quad against their rival China.. this is,Pakistanis Achilles heal your either with the usa and the west or with China
4. India never has,bowed to usa perhaps that's they are treated far differently than pakistan. more mutual respect no lecturing and,denying military or investment support

pakistan is,like the desperate man.chasing the hot girl. so acts needy and blows up her phone
India,is the cooler guy does not chase let's the girl come to him.because,he,offers,so much more and he knows,it .....

1. India has large trade due to its size, but its lack of diverse industries and exports means its sustainability is questionable.
2. India USED to have diverse strategic interests, but is now having to reset itself after having sat on the fence for ages. The Russians had made subtle noises on this. Japan, Europe or the Arab states can't be a stand-in for a superpower.
3. There is no achilles heel here, you just refer to that term in order to divert attention to the the fact that you are hemmed in by two military powers and need to reach out to the US. The Pakistan/China partnership goes back decades, where as the US/India one is a new thing, after years of non-alignment and your close ties to the Soviets.
4. India actually has towed the US line of a fair few occasions e.g. voting against Iran at the UN, during a time where you supposedly enjoyed close ties, something the Iranians never forgot. Crucial litmus tests are coming e.g. your S-400 deal and impending US sanctions. Let's see how it pans out. I will however give you that i.e. Pakistan has been far more accommodating though than India.

Your analogy after is plain silly. Pakistan already refused access to the US military for base use, something which they desperately lobbied for. There's two way chasing going on here.

 

[arjunk]

India is entirely dependent on America for its survival. A joint China-Pakistan effort will not end well for them.

pakistan is,like the desperate man.chasing the hot girl. so acts needy and blows up her phone
India,is the cooler guy does not chase let's the girl come to him.because,he,offers,so much more and he knows,it .....

India literally has "love jihad" laws, should tell you enough about which country is which.