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Military relations have developed on a seperate track and are great backchannels for diplomacy.
So far the people causing the most murder/killing along with facilitating crime in Pakistan are “religious minded” folk- to me these false flag bearers and religious bigots are the true eternal enemy of Pakistan and the doom of muslims worldwide; so lets agree to disgareeTranslation: Military relations are a great way for the Americans to control the power center.
Establish relations with those in de facto command of the country and the nukes, and ensure American vested interests are served. At American behest, Generals and Air Marshals with Western leanings have established an order of bigotry, bias, and discrimination against religious minded folks. They have made poor decisions with regards to indigenization of electronic chip making because who needs to spend all that money when everything is available? Similarly for materials science and overall manufacturing. The problem with cozying up is the establishment of an implicit trust. The Americans have broken this implicit trust time and time again at the hour of our existential crises, and yet we view this toxic relationship as beneficial?
So far the people causing the most murder/killing along with facilitating crime in Pakistan are “religious minded” folk- to me these false flag bearers and religious bigots are the true eternal enemy of Pakistan and the doom of muslims worldwide; so lets agree to disgaree
Religious people have been in Pakistan since its inception, yet things such as suicide bombings were unheard of. So why did this phenomenon emerge during the first decade of 2000s? Clearly, something changed.
I have had the displeasure of having discussed this issue with some of the most representative liberals and 'civil society' in the country. A retort from a lady: "So things should hit rock bottom before they can become better, right?" Implying that the open season of brutality should reach a crescendo. This was said in mid 2000s, and lo and behold we had APS some years later. So can you say this isn't premeditation to tarnish the image of Islam and Islamic people in the country?
How can you conveniently forget that TTP is sponsored by CIA and RAW? But you want friendly relations with USAF and corridors of love with Indians. More than the bloodletting by TTP, Pakistan's existential base has been destroyed through secular, worldly, stooges of Americans and friends of Indian businessmen. Biased much?
You got the Pak government and political parties in place of the snakes....Rather trust a fuking snake than mericunts.
Ithink one needs to be pragmatic. Allow me to give you an example. The Saudis have funded our Government for decades and we havs no reason to deny that their help at critical junctures has been pivotal in getting Paklands out of the pile of doo doo it had dug itself into. Yet when they asked us for contributions towards the Yemen war (at least on the surface) we refused. Does that make us untrustworthy. We went back to the Saudis and they helped us out again.Rather trust a fuking snake than mericunts.
Bottom line whether we like it or not....our armed forces are not equipped, trained or indoctrinated to fight a super power and take them head on. Fighting through a proxy on foreign land when top nine military powers amongst the top ten are behind you is one thing but standing against the lone superpower is....well, a tall order, today.
That is the reason, rhetoric aside, sanity prevails in the corridors of power where reality is much somber and stark. Bombastic claims will get us into a shit hole very quickly if the saner backdoor diplomacy is not followed. US does that too.
And for those who think that others will come to our aid, no one will, even China will back out of an open confrontation with US and its so called allies at this point in time. The cost is just too much to pay for them.
They will also advise GoP to play it low for another 10 years. Untill China is fully geared up. Only then things will be much more interesting.
Some of you folks wont like what i have written, but this is the reality whether we like it or not.
This exercise will have its own benefits for us. After all, we have always shown superior skills in air war thanks to our training with western air forces.
Such training is not a one way street, it does benefit both sides. Isolating ourselves is not the answer. China has not engaged in active combat for a while. The last time they did in Indo-China, they got a bloody nose as did US.
But since then both countries have changed their doctrine, and tactics however US has been engaged in atleast four major conflicts that involved extensive use of air power. We can benefit from interacting with them:
Air to air refueling
Dissimilar aircraft combat including F22 and its hovering and thrust vectoring capability.
Operating under extensive jamming
Exposure to "Enemy" combat tactics.
etc.
My2C worth
Sadly there are still people who are going to bend at any angle just to get those fuckin F-16s even if that costs the country alot more.
So does Israel whore it self out to receive that massive aid in military and otherwise? Or does Trump is whoring US out when it reached out to Pakistan to negotiate a peace settlement because it has become unbearable for the US in Afghanistan?
As for what the US wants regarding taliban is of no significance to Pakistan because if history is anything to go by, Pakistan follows its own interests and if those interests are aligned with a taliban government in Afghanistan, than so will it be.
Bottom line whether we like it or not....our armed forces are not equipped, trained or indoctrinated to fight a super power and take them head on. Fighting through a proxy on foreign land when top nine military powers amongst the top ten are behind you is one thing but standing against the lone superpower is....well, a tall order, today.
That is the reason, rhetoric aside, sanity prevails in the corridors of power where reality is much somber and stark. Bombastic claims will get us into a shit hole very quickly if the saner backdoor diplomacy is not followed. US does that too.
And for those who think that others will come to our aid, no one will, even China will back out of an open confrontation with US and its so called allies at this point in time. The cost is just too much to pay for them.
They will also advise GoP to play it low for another 10 years. Untill China is fully geared up. Only then things will be much more interesting.
Some of you folks wont like what i have written, but this is the reality whether we like it or not.
This exercise will have its own benefits for us. After all, we have always shown superior skills in air war thanks to our training with western air forces.
Such training is not a one way street, it does benefit both sides. Isolating ourselves is not the answer. China has not engaged in active combat for a while. The last time they did in Indo-China, they got a bloody nose as did US.
But since then both countries have changed their doctrine, and tactics however US has been engaged in atleast four major conflicts that involved extensive use of air power. We can benefit from interacting with them:
Air to air refueling
Dissimilar aircraft combat including F22 and its hovering and thrust vectoring capability.
Operating under extensive jamming
Exposure to "Enemy" combat tactics.
etc.
My2C worth
The Americans were absolutely adamant, and actually steaming to see the Chinese here for the 6th time. And it is a high profile exercise too so no doubt our neighbours will be cheesed off.
the snakes in the American power corridors would love to see confrontations between the two countries rather than such exercises so lets not play in the hands of such snakes.Rather trust a fuking snake than mericunts.
even if something does get planned it might be called off due to the volatile nature of American administration and the sudden call of withdrawal of troops from Syria and Afghanistan and a known Pakistani hater Khalil lizard in the region. everyone competes in US to hate on Pakistan.
Translation: Military relations are a great way for the Americans to control the power center.
Establish relations with those in de facto command of the country and the nukes, and ensure American vested interests are served. At American behest, Generals and Air Marshals with Western leanings have established an order of bigotry, bias, and discrimination against religious minded folks. They have made poor decisions with regards to indigenization of electronic chip making because who needs to spend all that money when everything is available? Similarly for materials science and overall manufacturing. The problem with cozying up is the establishment of an implicit trust. The Americans have broken this implicit trust time and time again at the hour of our existential crises, and yet we view this toxic relationship as beneficial?