Pakistan UAVs News & Discussions

[vizier]

Another option for a stop gap measure against jets would be to use a ramjet-a2a-drone capable of mach 3 with a wing configuration similar to one below. It needs to be upgraded to carry inside at least 2 a2a wvr missiles or if possible larger bvr missiles and it needs to have a radar inside the nose cone. This one is launched from B-52s but jettisonable rockets can be used to give the initial speed for the ramjet for ground based launch. No need to develop-install the expensive jet engine and no moving radar reflector parts in the engine being a ramjet. It would be easier to produce in numbers.

Lockheed D-21 - Wikipedia

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Jet engine low rcs a2a drones would have a longer range and can carry more payload but they are in development stages in most countries. But since sams and direct radar lock is an immediate give away of ads-radar own position that leaves air to air engagement as the remaining option and doing this as cheaply and effectively as possible becomes the main issue.

Or better launch this aircraft with a ZEL rocket launch configuration from even frontlines. Intercept the enemy aircraft and return back landing somewhere inside in a protected airfield.

Zero-length launch - Wikipedia

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You will need at least 2 strong rockets attached parallel under its wings though to make D-21 reach its required speed and altitude to activate the ramjet.

 

[Incog_nito]

Why not PAC try to acquire a license to produce Turkish UCAVs in Pakistan for PAF.

As PAF, PN, and PA needs those MALE UCAVs.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Why not PAC try to acquire a license to produce Turkish UCAVs in Pakistan for PAF.

As PAF, PN, and PA needs those MALE UCAVs.

We should make our own quality ones and learn from experience. License production doesnt teach anything

 

[skyshadow]

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Wow... Mashallah we are heading towards right direction

actually Iran navy is building something like this ( IRGC already has built Shahed-171, its own version of it ) the navy one looks little bet different but the aspects are the same its name is Sejjil and its in flight test phase so it will be cool to see two navies cooperating


altitude

speed : +1000 km/h

range : 2000 km

payload : guided bombs , smart bombs , glide bombs , air to air missiles carrying them in its internal weapons bay


Sejjil UCAV

IRGC shahed-171but i don't think PK wants its name side by side of IRGC so this is unlikely to happen any time soon but PK and IR ministry of defense are highly likely to cooperate with each other

 

[HAIDER]

actually Iran navy is building something like this ( IRGC already has built Shahed-171, its own version of it ) the navy one looks little bet different but the aspects are the same its name is Sejjil and its in flight test phase so it will be cool to see two navies cooperating


altitude

speed : +1000 km/h

range : 2000 km

payload : guided bombs , smart bombs , glide bombs , air to air missiles carrying them in its internal weapons bay


Sejjil UCAV

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IRGC shahed-171but i don't think PK wants its name side by side of IRGC so this is unlikely to happen any time soon but PK and IR ministry of defense are highly likely to cooperate with each other

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This is one massive uav , guys have more info ..?

 

[skyshadow]

This is one massive uav , guys have more info ..?

The Shahed 171 Simorgh is an jet-powered flying wing reconnaissance / attack unmanned aerial vehicle produced by Shahed Aviation Industries, IRGC don't say what engine it uses but it could be Owj jet engine or a Tulou engine or some more powerful version of Jahesh-700 turbofan engine its speed is mach 0.7 to 0.8 altitude could reach 60.000 feet this version uses carbon fiber body for better stealth the range is anywhere from 2000-4000 kms it can carry 4 glide bombs with 100 km rage also air to air missile or smart bombs it will be escorted by other UAVs for better protection it doesn't fly solo


escort UAVs

 

[Incog_nito]

We should make our own quality ones and learn from experience. License production doesnt teach anything

Totally wrong. We need to license to produce Turkish and Chinese UAVs at PAC.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Totally wrong. We need to license to produce Turkish and Chinese UAVs at PAC.

Start by JV with Turks and then make our own stealth drones and wingman UCAVs.

 

[Incog_nito]

Start by JV with Turks and then make our own stealth drones and wingman UCAVs.

Also, not to miss out Chinese ones too.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Also, not to miss out Chinese ones too.

Too much dependance on Iron Brother is not good.

 

[Incog_nito]

Too much dependance on Iron Brother is not good.

It's not dependence. It's like collaboration which will result in learning to make our own ones.

 

[GriffinsRule]

It's not dependence. It's like collaboration which will result in learning to make our own ones.

If you havent learned how to make them yet, you will not in the future either. Hasnt Pakistan been license producing Italian drones for the last decade now? Not enough lessons learned there?
PS, which Chinese drone did the Turks produce before their own?

 

[Incog_nito]

If you havent learned how to make them yet, you will not in the future either. Hasnt Pakistan been license producing Italian drones for the last decade now? Not enough lessons learned there?
PS, which Chinese drone did the Turks produce before their own?

I had shared my opinion.

 

[alphapak]

Has Pak made anything similar to the harop suuicide drones?

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Has Pak made anything similar to the harop suuicide drones?
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Yeah they will when India acuires this "eeekipment"