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Milgem engine, gun, radar, missiles are all Europe made. Not very reliable source.
So all four are jinnah class corvettes now? Is there still going to be a larger frigate ?During the conversation with the CNS Pakistan, the four ADA/MilGem (dubbed Jinnah Class by the PN) Class corvettes for Pakistan were also mentioned. Two of the ships will be constructed in Turkey while the remaining two will be built at the KS&EW Shipyard in Karachi. The CNS Pakistan Admiral ABBASI noted that as their ships will be equipped with Medium-Range Air Defence Missile System (LY-80/HHQ-16) launched from a Vertical Launching System (VLS, with 16 cells) installed behind the main deck gun, a modified version of the Combat Management System (based on GENESIS) will be integrated to the vessels.
Additionally, instead of 21-cell Mk49 Mod 3 Guided Missile Launching System (GMLS) for short-range RIM-116 Block IA/HAS Surface-to-Air Missiles (SAMs) and RMG-84 Harpoon anti-ship missiles the Jinnah Class corvettes will be will be fitted with a 16-Cell VLS (to be located behind the main gun) for the LY-80/HHQ-16 Medium Range Air Defence Missile System and C-802 anti-ship missiles.
https://www.defenceturkey.com/en/co...cise-pakistan-turkey-defence-cooperation-3454
It's starting to seem like all 4 MILGEMs will be with VLS, and that the PN is calling them the Jinnah-class Frigate.So all four are jinnah class corvettes now? Is there still going to be a larger frigate ?
So it means 4 ship will be same as of the first three?It's starting to seem like all 4 MILGEMs will be with VLS, and that the PN is calling them the Jinnah-class Frigate.
HQ-16A and HQ-16B are land-based versions, while HQ-16 and HQ-16C are ship-based versions.Do HQ16 and 16A have the same sized launchers or twould there be a different VLS system for both? In the former case it may just be a case of upgrade of missiles as they become available. In the later case we might have to think long term. The only question is whether availability is assured for the 16Bs.
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Still does not answer my question. Does extended range missiles require different types of VLS tubes or can be fired from the same VLS tube? Similarly do A and B require different typse of delivery system or not? Help would be appreciatedHQ-16A and HQ-16B are land-based versions, while HQ-16 and HQ-16C are ship-based versions.
1. HQ-16B is slightly longer than HQ-16A.Still does not answer my question. Does extended range missiles require different types of VLS tubes or can be fired from the same VLS tube? Similarly do A and B require different typse of delivery system or not?
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Thank you for your help.1. HQ-16B is slightly longer than HQ-16A.
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2. HQ-16A and HQ-16B use the same delivery system or VLS tubes.
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any idea HQ-16A is still under production or only HQ-16B is production1. HQ-16B is slightly longer than HQ-16A.
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2. HQ-16A and HQ-16B use the same delivery system or VLS tubes.
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One thing for sure is that more and more HQ-16B SAMs are used by PLA Army.any idea HQ-16A is still under production or only HQ-16B is production
You can use Turkish sam Hisar a and Hisar o in the future if you need it.
advatage of Hisar design is that i can also stop supersonic missiles like its European examples which were tested several times. It is important for you because of Indian missiles. Turkish sam and European sams looks like a lot and thats their main difference from ESSM i guess.
Ultimately, the ships will outlast the weapons and electronics. Yes, the HHQ-16 isn't ideal, but it's good seeing the PN work towards commonality across its own fleet and with the PA. Of course, HHQ-16 or HHQ-16, I would prefer we co-develop SAMs with South Africa and/or Turkey. We can then update the 054A and Jinnah (JN) down the line.