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Pakistan to expose US interference in Balochistan

so when can we expect the "EXPOSING"... any time near???????
May be in a few thousand years.

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Yes! But that's according to Bharat Verma who consideres himself an authority on India-Pakistan-China affairs. He's a nut and spews nonsensical clap-trap at regular intervals. Few, if any, follow his delirious rants.

It therefore surprises me that you have chosen to quote a man who's well known for his baloney. He and your Zaid Hamid are in the same rotten boat and it's sinking fast! :tdown:

Cheers!

there are people like him but Indian Government does not obey to them their views are personal. Where as in Pakistan fanatics like Hafeez Muhammad Saeed are well known influencing people changing mindset of the people.
 
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May be in a few thousand years.

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there are people like him but Indian Government does not obey to them their views are personal. Where as in Pakistan fanatics like Hafeez Muhammad Saeed are well known influencing people changing mindset of the people.

Really now?
India has no people whose mindset can be changed?? altered to fanaticism?
Please.. before you enter further off topic canards.. think before you speak(its easy).
 
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Really now?
India has no people whose mindset can be changed?? altered to fanaticism?
Please.. before you enter further off topic canards.. think before you speak(its easy).

Indian Government do not obey them and if they commit any criminal act our Jurisdiction is not weak like Pakistan.

And please provide the proof of Indian Involvement in Baluchistan!
 
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Indian Government do not obey them and if they commit any criminal act our Jurisdiction is not weak like Pakistan.

And please provide the proof of Indian Involvement in Baluchistan!

that is just sniveling on your part to cover up what is an irrelevant point for this topic.
As for Balochistan.. Im eyewitness proof the involvement..
There are Baloch that now proudly claim of getting help from India..
what do you classify as help?
Weaponry.. training..money?
 
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that is just sniveling on your part to cover up what is an irrelevant point for this topic.
As for Balochistan.. Im eyewitness proof the involvement..
There are Baloch that now proudly claim of getting help from India..
what do you classify as help?
Weaponry.. training..money
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Oscar bhai you & santro are perhaps the most level headed MODS but you dissapointed me big time byyou post#63 , anyway why do these balouch sepratists want outside help in the first place??????????
 
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that is just sniveling on your part to cover up what is an irrelevant point for this topic.
As for Balochistan.. Im eyewitness proof the involvement..
There are Baloch that now proudly claim of getting help from India..
what do you classify as help?
Weaponry.. training..money?

is there any solid proof, photograph, dealings, weapon smugling into Baluchistan by Indian agents, etc in record which can be put on table??? If yes then , even Mani Shanakar Iyer boldly said, if there is something, bring it.
 
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Oscar bhai you & santro are perhaps the most level headed MODS but you dissapointed me big time byyou post#63 , anyway why do these balouch sepratists want outside help in the first place??????????
Greed of resources and Money, To continue Sardar Nizam in all over the region means more tribal war. Wat happened in Libya and Syria? Common Baloch and Baloch Pathan is not involve in it niether interested in it. Mengal Sardar accepted that in a recent interview.
 
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Greed of resources and Money, To continue Sardar Nizam in all over the region means more tribal war. Wat happened in Libya and Syria? Common Baloch and Baloch Pathan is not involve in it niether interested in it. Mengal Sardar accepted that in a recent interview.

bhai thats the main problem, not just in balouchistan but whole pakistan if you want that there should be no outside dictation then you have to make yourself strong by empowering the masses not just mullah/militarry/zameedar-vadhera's onle.....land reforms are long deu in Pakistan without them no real economy& social ugradation is possible...please do correct me if im wrong , Thanks Again.
 
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bhai thats the main problem, not just in balouchistan but whole pakistan if you want that there should be no outside dictation then you have to make yourself strong by empowering the masses not just mullah/militarry/zameedar-vadhera's onle.....land reforms are long deu in Pakistan without them no real economy& social ugradation is possible...please do correct me if im wrong , Thanks Again.
Cities other than Balochistan are in better condition but inside Balochistan It was really hard to do development works under sardar's militants, They are very much pro-cultural anyone who don't follow them will have to Die or leave.:frown:
 
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Baluchistan is an issue of Negligence . Many times Discussed in All party conference by Pakistani leaders but no action. Just to safeguard themselves, Pakistani leaders are fooling the 'Awam' and putting blames on India to protect their votes. Nothing More. kahani khatam
 
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Why the heck does PAK gov still considers Yankis friends. After all the yankis have done to them,
they should severe ties with them.
Any other gov (expect muslim countries:hitwall:) would have give a proper slap in dity US face by
now.
 
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Oscar bhai you & santro are perhaps the most level headed MODS but you dissapointed me big time byyou post#63 , anyway why do these balouch sepratists want outside help in the first place??????????
Santro and Oscar are one and the same . Screen Name was changed .
 
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Eavesdropping on Iran: ‘US pressing for listening posts in Balochistan’

By Zia Khan
Published: February 20, 2012

Officials say the recent US hearing and subsequent bill on the troubled province are part of ambitions to keep an eye on Tehran’s nuclear ambitions.

ISLAMABAD:
Everyone wants to have a hand to play in Balochistan.

The latest player to unmask itself is the United States. Even as tensions brew between Pakistan and the US over a resolution introduced in the US House of Representatives seeking sovereignty for the volatile province, officials reveal that the US has been pushing Islamabad for permission to establish bases in Balochistan for intelligence operations against bordering Iran.

“Like always, things are not what they look like, and how they unfold … lies at the heart of all (this). The outburst in America for Balochistan is part of an ambition to set up intelligence bases close to the Iranian border,” an official told The Express Tribune on Sunday, indicating that the Congressional hearing and proposed resolution were playing their part as pressure tactics.

“They (Americans) want to use our soil against Iran, which we can never allow,” said the official, who did not want to be named.

Three officials, two from the security agencies and one from diplomatic circles, confirmed to The Express Tribune that American diplomats and military leaders have been requesting permission for their agents to operate near the Iranian border in Balochistan.

The revelation came days after a bill was moved in the House of Representatives, blaming Pakistani security agencies for forceful disappearances and extra-judicial killings in Balochistan and calling for the liberation of the country’s largest province. It also follows the visit of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Pakistan for a trilateral summit.

Officials said that ostensibly, US authorities were seeking Pakistan’s permission to establish bases in Balochistan, claiming to counter the activities of the Afghan Taliban, whom they blame for operating out of the provincial capital under the umbrella of the so-called Quetta Shura. Islamabad, however, denies the presence of any such Taliban shura or council.

The proposed resolution adds to the rising chorus of voices across the country pointing fingers over the troubles of the violence-ridden province, including the Pakistan Muslim League- Nawaz (PML-N) which has vowed to introduce a resolution in the National Assembly, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement and even the Pakistan Bar Council among others.

The international front
Running parallel to the Balochistan saga is the recent rising concern in the West over purported Iranian ambitions to build nuclear arsenal. Reports in the recent past suggest American and Israeli authorities are starting to run out of patience, and the threat of Israeli military action against defiant Iran is a growing one.

Just last week, President Ahmadinejad reportedly urged Pakistani authorities to disallow Americans from reinforcing their presence at a consulate in Quetta.

Trilateral summit statement
Earlier last week, a joint declaration was issued at the conclusion of the Pakistan-Iran-Afghanistan summit in Islamabad, where all three sides vowed to put up collective resistance to any new misadventure by any force in the region.

Experts say the statement was a veiled reference to American ambitions to put an end to Iran’s nuclear drive.

In December last year, President Asif Ali Zardari delivered a speech at a gathering of Pakistan Peoples Party workers, saying he would never allow his country to become part of any other war theatre in the region.

“We are the well wishers of all and don’t want to make any more enemies,” the president said in remarks that officials interpreted as a snub to American pressure seeking permission for anti-Iran intelligence operations.

(Read: A troubled land)
Published in The Express Tribune, February 20th, 2012.
Eavesdropping on Iran:

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Given the above, the point made in the OP is a valid one.

The US cannot destabilize Iranian Balochistan and run terrorist ops into Iranian Balochistan without the support of insurgents/terrorists on the Pakistani side and/or a deliberate or inadvertent transfer of resources and support to the rebels on the Pakistani side.
 
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Eavesdropping on Iran: ‘US pressing for listening posts in Balochistan’

By Zia Khan
Published: February 20, 2012

Officials say the recent US hearing and subsequent bill on the troubled province are part of ambitions to keep an eye on Tehran’s nuclear ambitions.

ISLAMABAD:
Everyone wants to have a hand to play in Balochistan.

The latest player to unmask itself is the United States. Even as tensions brew between Pakistan and the US over a resolution introduced in the US House of Representatives seeking sovereignty for the volatile province, officials reveal that the US has been pushing Islamabad for permission to establish bases in Balochistan for intelligence operations against bordering Iran.

“Like always, things are not what they look like, and how they unfold … lies at the heart of all (this). The outburst in America for Balochistan is part of an ambition to set up intelligence bases close to the Iranian border,” an official told The Express Tribune on Sunday, indicating that the Congressional hearing and proposed resolution were playing their part as pressure tactics.

“They (Americans) want to use our soil against Iran, which we can never allow,” said the official, who did not want to be named.

Three officials, two from the security agencies and one from diplomatic circles, confirmed to The Express Tribune that American diplomats and military leaders have been requesting permission for their agents to operate near the Iranian border in Balochistan.

The revelation came days after a bill was moved in the House of Representatives, blaming Pakistani security agencies for forceful disappearances and extra-judicial killings in Balochistan and calling for the liberation of the country’s largest province. It also follows the visit of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Pakistan for a trilateral summit.

Officials said that ostensibly, US authorities were seeking Pakistan’s permission to establish bases in Balochistan, claiming to counter the activities of the Afghan Taliban, whom they blame for operating out of the provincial capital under the umbrella of the so-called Quetta Shura. Islamabad, however, denies the presence of any such Taliban shura or council.

The proposed resolution adds to the rising chorus of voices across the country pointing fingers over the troubles of the violence-ridden province, including the Pakistan Muslim League- Nawaz (PML-N) which has vowed to introduce a resolution in the National Assembly, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, the Muttahida Qaumi Movement and even the Pakistan Bar Council among others.

The international front
Running parallel to the Balochistan saga is the recent rising concern in the West over purported Iranian ambitions to build nuclear arsenal. Reports in the recent past suggest American and Israeli authorities are starting to run out of patience, and the threat of Israeli military action against defiant Iran is a growing one.

Just last week, President Ahmadinejad reportedly urged Pakistani authorities to disallow Americans from reinforcing their presence at a consulate in Quetta.

Trilateral summit statement
Earlier last week, a joint declaration was issued at the conclusion of the Pakistan-Iran-Afghanistan summit in Islamabad, where all three sides vowed to put up collective resistance to any new misadventure by any force in the region.

Experts say the statement was a veiled reference to American ambitions to put an end to Iran’s nuclear drive.

In December last year, President Asif Ali Zardari delivered a speech at a gathering of Pakistan Peoples Party workers, saying he would never allow his country to become part of any other war theatre in the region.

“We are the well wishers of all and don’t want to make any more enemies,” the president said in remarks that officials interpreted as a snub to American pressure seeking permission for anti-Iran intelligence operations.

(Read: A troubled land)
Published in The Express Tribune, February 20th, 2012.
Eavesdropping on Iran:

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Given the above, the point made in the OP is a valid one.

The US cannot destabilize Iranian Balochistan and run terrorist ops into Iranian Balochistan without the support of insurgents/terrorists on the Pakistani side and/or a deliberate or inadvertent transfer of resources and support to the rebels on the Pakistani side.

Already being discussed here, mate.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...-us-pressing-listening-posts-balochistan.html
 
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